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New tenant moved in with a pet without telling us

  • 18-05-2022 4:07pm
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭francis1978

    Hello everyone,

    My wife and I are renting out a Duplex we have in Dublin, we have moved to the other side of the country, because of this we used a Dublin based estate agent to select tenants, we were very clear that we did not want tenants with pets as we were concerned about damage etc. After being very selective we decided upon a couple who moved into the property approx 6 weeks ago, we were tipped off today by a former neighbour that they moved in with a dog.

    We will be raising the issue with the EA tomorrow but would like to understand what our options are?

    Has anyone else experienced a similar problem, how was it resolved?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 32,138 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so

    Some people don't love dogs or cats or any other animals for that matter just as others do like them. That's life for you in all its colours.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭B9K9

    I operate an airbnb and welcome pets almost without restriction. This tenant broke faith immediately and is liable for breach of contract, good luck all the same.

  • Registered Users Posts: 9,486 ✭✭✭Flinty997

    A tenant breaking a lease is the tenants fault. No one else's.

    Character assassination isn't going to sell the idea pet owners are better tenants. If you think that you're sadly mistaken. Likewise if you are unable to look after a pet don't make it someone else's problem.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,434 ✭✭✭victor8600

    It's great then the OP does not lives with his tenants in the same house, so that is not a problem.

    If a dog **** in the house, then it's a problem. Fortunately, this is not the usual behaviour for dogs at all. I had multiple dogs, none of them ever did that. A short walk couple of times a day takes care of this issue.

  • Registered Users Posts: 13,017 ✭✭✭✭Dav010

    Either the pet or the tenant goes, but, that is on the assumption that your lease contains a “no pet” clause and/or, the EA informed the tenant that it is a condition of the tenancy. If you have neither, then you will be having a conversation with your EA, but your tenants will be on solid ground should you try and terminate a term lease.

  • Registered Users Posts: 9,486 ✭✭✭Flinty997

    Why is a dog a problem? Does the flat have rare irreplaceable antique furniture?

    Without meaning to, your comment suggests dog is a risk to furniture.

  • Registered Users Posts: 32,138 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so

    Well, it is if they feel they have to pay for cleaning once the animal leaves.

  • Registered Users Posts: 9,486 ✭✭✭Flinty997

    Exactly this.

    The problem is not the dog/pet. Its the deception.

    For a long term rent you are often going to replacing all the furniture and repainting the whole place anyway. So a dog or a pet isn't the issue you might think. Not for a good tenant. Depends on the owner.

  • Registered Users Posts: 665 ✭✭✭goldenmick

    I'd be wanting to check the breed of dog first of all. It could be a chihuahua for all you know.

    A bleedin' budgie would do more damage than one of them.

    Now if it's a big bugger of a labrador, or great dane, well...

    ... put the rent up another 100 or so a month, or turf them out. Your choice.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,626 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly

    You need to check the lease to make sure it said no pets.

    Ask the EA if it was made clear to them. Let him find out why they broke the lease based on above.

    Then decide based on the type of dog and if you want to take the risk.

  • Registered Users Posts: 16,484 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12

    The only real issue I see is if the LL officially allows a dog then the LL has to accept more wear and tear on the property.

  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭Cdemess

    And the tenants lose their deposit to pay for any damage their dog did when they leave. Simple solution

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,434 ✭✭✭victor8600

    I mean exactly what I say. Everything is a risk. Unless the flat is filled with inert gas at low temperature with no light coming in, there will be some wear and tear. If a dog (or a human) living at the premises breaks something, then it should be paid for or replaced by tenants, that is not a question. What I question is the irrational limitation that a landlord feels free to impose on tenants. What's next? No kids allowed?

    I am getting off topic, of course. There is already a good advice for the OP -- if they don't like the tenants, they may ask them to leave.

  • Registered Users Posts: 516 ✭✭✭MakersMark

    You should buy a place and rent it to the tenants in question so.

    Problem solved.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,090 ✭✭✭Browney7

    Did you give a one year lease OP?

    If breach of tenancy obligations you inserted in the lease, do you have to give an opportunity for them to remedy? What if they inform you "the dog is gone" and they have a friend mind it for a few days. You inspect, dog gone, what do you do then? Do you have evidence to go to the RTB with if it goes that far? How do you plan on collecting evidence they have a dog in contravention with the lease? Will you depend on the neighbour to go to an RTB hearing to back you up?

  • Registered Users Posts: 16,484 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12

    That doesn't wash I'm afraid. Letting them have a dog obviously puts more wear & tear on the property. Allowing the dog is allowing the extra wear & tear. It's considered normal wear & tear. You can't hold the deposit back for normal wear & tear.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,486 ✭✭✭Flinty997

    Everything is a risk what nonsense is that. Car insurance isn't the same for everyone. Because risk isn't always the same.

    I mind a family member dog now and then. Last time he demolished half a window sill. Lot of friends with dogs have had to replace the grass in their gardens with more hardwearing materials. That not something a LL should be expect to carry for free. The deposit won't cover that kind of stuff.

    Its not irrational, its a lease. Don't like it, don't rent it.

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