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The 1990s is a long time ago

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  • 09-03-2022 2:42pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 8,292 ✭✭✭


    Like many here, I'm middle aged and the 1990s were my formative years. Hard to believe that it is 23 years since the most recent year of the 1990s.

    23 years from now I'll be an old fcuker if I'm even alive. In 23 years, every family member that I cared about will be long dead.

    1990 is 32 years ago. 32 years from 1990 is 1958, the fooking 1950s.

    Massive changes between 1990 and 1999, I think Ireland experienced bigger changes than many as we were coming from a low base and gained more from the internet than other countries. I think this may have contributed to something of a golden era in Ireland running from about 1995 to 2003.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 860 ✭✭✭erlichbachman


    Why do I feel like this is a maths exam?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭thefallingman


    Thanks Brian I feel like a dinosaur now ! In 1999 I was living in Sydney with most of my friends like a lot of Irish 20 somethings back then, now I’m just old



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,931 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Given that 1990 was one of the most significant years in events regarding the end of the Cold War, the Warsaw pact, the beginning of the demise of the Soviet Union, and was the year of the declaration of Ukraine's state sovereignty, hopefully we'll see another 1990 very soon.



  • Registered Users Posts: 270 ✭✭Captain Barnacles


    Summer 1999 I went to Cape Cod on a J1, had a blast ... I found 2 disposable cameras from there a few weeks ago in my parents house in a box and got them developed ... wow such memories.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭RayCon


    My mate sent me a Whatapp the other day with a screen shot of his TV ... he was watching the rave episode of the RTE Series My Tribe and there I was in the Mansion House @ Altern8 in 1992 ! Whats the world coming to when you can't go for a night out, only to pop up on TV 30yrs later ...man I felt old.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 348 ✭✭RossGeller


    When I think of the 90's all I can remember is Oasis and Jim Carrey movies.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    In 1999 I was 3 years away for retirement. Who is the dinosaur now?😶



  • Registered Users Posts: 880 ✭✭✭bb12


    there was a moment there in the early 2000s when life was golden...i like to call those the camelot years...before the real effects of 9/11 started to kick in...and then it all went downhill from there!



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    You shut up. Just shut up. 2000 was only 10 years ago, and 1990 was only 15 years ago.

    Stop it this madness.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx




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  • Registered Users Posts: 942 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    A great time to be a teenager or 20 something...

    Economy here gearing up for the start of the Celtic Tiger and jobs becoming plentiful. 3rd level education opened up to people who previously would never have thought about it, with the abolition of fees and introduction of grants. The last days of the Troubles and the signing of the GFA....

    Pre "financial irregularity" Bertie Ahern riding high in the polls.

    Pre "my pal Jeffrey Epstein" Bill Clinton cleaning up in the old America of before 9/11 and all the shít that brought...

    Pre "there's definitely WMD's in Iraq" Tony Blair sweeping to power in Britain on a tide of Cool Britannia and Britpop.

    Mainstream music, film and pop culture all still vibrant and uncontaminated by the Internet and Social Media. People were less narcissistic. Climate disaster was just something in Scifi films set in the far future of the 2030's.........

    The world was at a high water mark period of peace and prosperity. Optimism abounded.

    Take me back...



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    In reality, not that much has changed since the 1990's. There's certainly not the differences that the changes between the 1960's -> 1990's made. Probably the biggest absolute change is the internet and how it now pretty much governs a lot of people lives, both private and working. Our immediate forms of remote communication through (so called) smart phones is probably the single most obvious thing one can point to in that regard. But that is really just the result of logical steps forward.

    The cost of certain things have certainly taken a bizarre leap (even without factoring in current events). Buying something as simple and necessary as a roof over your head is a pipe dream for many. But other stuff, like certain electronic items are actually cheaper in the grand scheme of things.

    But the changes between 1965 and 1995 feel much more radical than the changes between 1995 and now. And the changes between 1935 to 1965 even more so.

    I look back at photo's of the 90's and they could be taken a couple of years ago. When I look back at photo's of my parents, it's like looking at a history book.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    There's alive and there's dead.

    There's no such thing as old 😁



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,364 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    The 90s were really fast moving. My brother is 2 years older than me and when he finished education there were no jobs about and he emigrated. When I came out of education there were tons of jobs and I was offered practically every job I applied for. The companies were willing to train people up from scratch too no matter what you studied.

    It also had a a strange effect on the generation just behind us. When we grew up nobody really had money and shows of wealth were sort of frowned upon as it seemed like gloating. Teenagers made a lot of their own clothes or at least modified them. People a few years younger were now loaded with money it seemed and were buying and wearing a lot more named brands. Reality was the parents had more money so gave more to their kids.

    House prices were rising at this point but people didn't pay much attention as wages were also rising but it was a significant increase and it didn't stop till 2007. I always think people talking about the peak and the plummet miss that when they fell it was still significantly more expensive to buy a house after the crash compared to 20 years earlier. So even when prices stop rising or even crash the price is still way more than before in real terms.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,303 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    Pint of Guinness was around 1.90 in the cheaper pubs in Dublin in 1996.

    The % change in the CPI from Sep 1996 to Jan 2022 is 58.0 %.

    A basket of goods and services that cost €2.27 ( which was 1.90 punts) in Sep 1996 would have cost €3.59 in Jan 2022

    Beer was a lot cheaper. Every Thursday evening in first year in college in Dublin I could comfortably afford a good night out.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,189 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    There was a sense of optimism in the 90's and early 2000s that is now gone.

    Now we're all loaded up with environmental doom & gloom, nuclear war on the horizon, orwellianism, doomscrolling and any pastime that carries a bit of risk is only one sob story away from being banned.

    The West had a great run of it from about 1945 until 2007 but even in the 2000s the cracks were starting to show. 1990s were probably the last clean decade of that massive period of expansion



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,639 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    My old man grew up with gas lamps, ploughing with horses, cycling everywhere, almost no cars. Steam powered trucks, engines and cranes. No telephones, etc. A world war.

    Changes in his lifetime were massive.

    For me its computers, mobiles, internet and easy cheap travel. The world shrank is more comfortable but isn't that much different.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,639 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    One thing I realized my parents didn't have Xmas trees in their childhood. It just wasn't a thing. That blew my mind.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Only in the late 90's was there a sense of any optimism here. We had plenty of jobs and people thought it was going to last forever. It lasted approximately 5 or 6 years until the reality of outsourcing came along and a lot of our jobs (which were outsourced themselves) started to disappear to China and India.

    In the early 90's, there was no difference to the mid 80's. Lots of unemployment and people thinking they had no future. Today we're kinda back to that because the cost of living here (see: buying or renting a gaff) is so, SO, ridiculous.

    As far as doom and gloom over nuclear war is concerned, there is absolutely nothing going on today that even comes close to the fear that people had of that in the 80's.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,672 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    The Famine was a long time ago. But someone born say in 1905 could have been alive in the 1990's, and spoken to someone alive now. When they were 10 in 1915, they could have spoken to someone born in 1835 who lived through the Famine.

    In an extreme case, someone born in 1840 could have spoken to someone in 1935 who was born in 1930, still alive now. A direct link back to Famine times.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,364 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Ah to have missed the 80s and not realise the 90s were the anomaly. You also seemed to have missed the issues in the 70s with their fuel crisis and mass unemployment around the Europe and the world. You just don't remember earlier times when things were really grim. The quality of life is amazing now and truly are living with future tech dreamt up decades and centuries ago.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,639 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997




    Parts of Dublin looked like a WW2 bombed out city in the 1980s.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,189 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious



    I remember early enough in the 90s all the yummy mummies were buying Corollas and Carina E's. The equivalent of a Tucson CRDi today. They were everywhere. Lots of new houses going up, getting planning permission wasn't a problem. When Gorbachev lifted the Iron Curtain a lot of the doom vanished rather quickly.



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,850 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Hassle free time, I finished school, did a college course, moved to live abroad for a bit to live in Paris in ‘98 and got myself to a World Cup semi final as well as a few more games….

    joined the workforce, had jobs I liked, started traveling, socialising, earning… my formative years for gaining an appreciation for all different styles and genres of music…

    went to a lot of gigs, pubs, traveled extensively, horizons expanded…no negatives about the 1990’s… was really good.

    music was decent, only a tiny percentage of the manufactured pap we have to endure now…there were loads of bands and acts actually creating, playing as opposed to ‘performing’..



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,189 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    Now they are implementing the dystopian tech future that was indeed dreampt up decades ago but it isn't a good thing. The ugly side to tech is massive. The 20-yearly recessions have been a thing throughout the past century or si but the 2008 one was probably the worst



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,672 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    It's a sign you're getting old when you denounce modern music. In the 60's it was old people shouting "turn that rubbish off" when the Beatles came on the radio. I take a benign view that every month new music, films, books etc are being produced, and they add to the choices existing already. No need to complain about them, when everything from the past "golden ages" is still there to enjoy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 722 ✭✭✭French Toast


    Born in '93 so on the young side of who is posting here. Remember having a happy childhood through the late 90's and early 00's. Mobile phones were new, think my Da got one around 2001ish.

    World seemed a lot bigger, brighter and slower.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,364 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Not at all. You weren't there for sure. The dystopian future hasn't come unless you see a T1000 about that I missed. Tech has been way more beneficial than people thought. What is the ugly side of tech that is a new thing?

    I don't know about the 2008 being the worst the recovery was very quick in comparison to other huge events.

    The 90s is the anomaly for Ireland and we may never see the like again. It set us up for 2007 where we crashed before the world did a year later. Cheap credit and optimism are not a good foundation for stable economics.

    You are doom and glooming yourself with a faulty rear view



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,850 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    No, First sign of getting old is taking a viagra to stop yours yourself piśsing on your slippers…

    live been denouncing it for a while, that means I’m old, a while…



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    If Back to the Future was made today and Marty followed the same time lines he'd be journeying back to 1992.

    Fcuk

    My

    Life

    😭



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