Was Lord Mountbatten (the Queen's cousin) a paedophile

Wishbone Ash

OP - why do you ask a question in your thread title when you have clearly made up your mind? You don't even use 'allegedly' in your unproven statements and have disputed the opinions of others. It just seems to be a pointless thread.

Harryd225

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118620572#Comment_118620572

He did not "do nothing" it was very common in Northern Ireland for most Catholics at the time to not engage with the sectarian police force known as the RUC, anyway I'm not discussing it further this is little more than a pathetic attempt by your to divert attention from organized paedophillia within the British state and Royal family.

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118620244#Comment_118620244

It's not about the killing of Mount Batten, war is not a nice business.

Whether he was a child abuser or not is immaterial to his death. The action was tough but justifiable and part of a day that made a significant push back.

That's another thread.

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118620617#Comment_118620617

Dont' feed the trolls, just report him for thread-jacking using the 'Flag' button.

Harryd225

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118620595#Comment_118620595

No it's just common sense that if your average Joe in the border counties of Ireland were aware of this and also even many Indians as well as the FBI it's a reasonable assumption to make that the Queen would have also been aware of what her family members were up to.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118620644#Comment_118620644

So no evidence.

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118620607#Comment_118620607

What opinions has he disputed?

One poster claimed to not know which Queen was being referred to.

Then another demanded to know "Why does it matter that his victims were born in Ireland?"

Some posters claimed the OP is an IRA apologist - which may be true, but doesn't mean the thread shouldn't exist.

Then one thread-jacker wants to talk about Gerry and Liam Adams instead and ignores the content of thread completely.

Oh yes and Mountbatten, or Uncle Dickie as he was known in Buckingham Palace, was not the Queen's cousin he was her second cousin once removed.

What great responses, yeah lets not look at Mountbatten's possible involvement in the VIP paedophile ring centred around Kincora. Who cares about that.

You should ask mods to merge previous and future threads into one big mega discussion titled "Things Harry hates about England." Kinda like giving you a daily newsletter that posters could subscribe to.

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118620702#Comment_118620702

To someone who doesn't normally read Harry's threads its the responses that look bad - a bunch of lame reasons why no one should care about a paedophile scandal including "Why does it matter that his victims were born in Ireland?" and "Gerry Adams' brother did it too so there".

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118620536#Comment_118620536

Great to have you posting here too , helps pass the morning reading your monologues of hating all things British.

Harryd225

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118620676#Comment_118620676

Sums it up really, no doubt if I had made the thread about the brother of Gerry Adams then the same people would not be complaining and would have instead already have made multiple paragraphs detailing their disgust.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118620726#Comment_118620726

Only one way to find out.

hamburgham

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118618205#Comment_118618205

You know exactly which Queen. The only Queen 99.9% of the country could name or recognise or who has ever entered their consciousness. From our point of view, she is the Queen, that does not imply that she is our Queen.

Harryd225

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118620607#Comment_118620607

How do you mean they have not been proven? You mean they haven't been proven in a British court of law? Most atrocities and crimes committed by the British state haven't, that doesn't mean they didn't happen, the evidence is quite overwhelming in this case and the British government and MI5 have repeatedly denied the victims right to justice and a fair investigation, many of which were trafficked from Ireland to England.

The Queen has even publicly stated that her "dignity" could be at risk if the Mountbatten diaries were ever to be released, the British state has allegedly spent 6 million pounds in court battles fighting against the diaries release.

Heraclius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118620842#Comment_118620842

It is amusing though when republicans don't specify. She's the only Queen for them...such loyalty.

Heraclius

Whatever truth there is to your allegation murder remains murder and the IRA murdered a child that day also.

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118620595#Comment_118620595

Who said there was?

I offered the opinion that it surprises me that the monarch is not held to the same standards as the heads of other organisations are.

Manach

Mod Note:

This discussion has not developed into a topic that relates to history. So unless there is an alteration, this thread will close.

Harryd225

There is clear evidence MI5 covered up the abuse at Kincora and allowed it to continue, numerous members of people inside MI5 and elsewhere blew the whistle on Kincora in the 70s including Colin Wallace MI5 renegade and psychological warfare specialist yet nothing was done about it.

Colin Wallace was himself committed to a psychiatric facility framed for murder in the 80s he claimed "I know from my experience in MI5 you don't shoot the messenger, that raises too many questions, what you do is you discredit the messenger". The conviction was later squashed years later in the light of new forensic and other evidence that raised serious questions about the dubious nature of the evidence used to convict Wallace initially.

There are numerous possible reasons MI5 covered up the abuse, it was most likely covered up to protect very powerful people, members of this VIP paedophile ring were alleged to range from top media personalities to serving members of the government to members of the Royal family. Many victims at Kincora were trafficked to locations in Westminster where they were abused by "very powerful people".

This was state approved abuse allowing the elite members of British society the opportunity to live out their fantasies, this was done under the protection of MI5.

Amnesty international didn't brand this "one of the biggest scandals of our age" for nothing. The British government and MI5 will continue to cover this up, they will continue to refuse to cooperate with any investigations.

goldenmick

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118621201#Comment_118621201

Every single thread of yours is the same. Spooks, conspiracy theories, and a personal axe to grind against everyone and everything. You must get some perverse pleasure from deliberately throwing political hand grenades on Boards forums, which serve absolutely no useful purpose as they relate to events of decades ago. Why do you invite controversy? There is no constructive debate to be had. Time has moved on. You should too.

Added - Visitors to this thread really should TAKE A LOOK AT THE OP's POST HISTORY. Shite stirring is too mild a description.

growleaves

Is this thread 'The Trouble with Harry' or is it a thread about Lord Mountbatten? I'm interested in the topic. Guys can you take your grievances with Harry to the Feedback Forum instead of ruining this discussion?

Harryd225

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118621300#Comment_118621300

People like goldenmick on boards.ie may refer to Kincora as a conspiracy theory but well respected human rights organisations around the world like Amnesty international refer to Kincora as "one of the biggest scandals of our age".

It's easy for people like Mick to say that time has moved on, that there's no longer a constructive debate to be had, it serves no useful purpose according to Mick. It's not so easy for the victims of abuse who are still bravely fighting for justice to this very day to say that, which Mick could clearly care less about with his post saying that time has moved on, Mick you clearly don't understand that time has not moved on for the victims who live with this every single minute of the day, Irish people who were trafficked to Westminster to be used as sexual objects will not move on without justice no matter how bad you want them to.

Mick you seem more angry about who this thread is about than anything else, You may be happy to bury the past but the victims are not, if you have no interest no one is forcing you to comment. Stick to your usual threads.

goldenmick

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118621370#Comment_118621370

I never said it was a conspiracy theory. And it could well be true. What I said was you wont achieve even an iota of justice for them on here. That's my point.

If you feel so strongly about it why don't you get out there on the streets with your clipboard collecting names for a petition. Fire off letters to MP's. Write to hundreds of newspapers. Approach TV stations. Get billboard advertising. Do a mailshot. Whatever. If it's that important to you then do something really constructive instead of pointlessly beating the drum on here - as with all your threads. You're not inviting a discussion, you're simply pushing what you see as undisputed facts into peoples faces and if their reply is not in accord with your viewpoint, then you continue the drum beating even more. But to what end I ask?

I reiterate. Why are all your threads in the same vein? Why are YOU seeking to represent all those who (in your mind) have been victims of perceived injustice? Why do you think Boards is the best place to conduct your one man campaign?

Nothing personal, but threads like this are utterly pointless.

Harryd225

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118621470#Comment_118621470

This thread is for discussion as most threads are, anyone who wants to engage can do so, I'm not forcing anyone to engage in the discussion.

I get it Mick, you prefer humourous light hearted threads, no one is forcing you to engage in this discussion. Let's leave it at that and move on.

I don't go on your humourous threads trying to tell you that they are not funny asking you what the point of posting them on here is.

Wishbone Ash

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118620885#Comment_118620885

But why are you asking if Mountbatten was a pedophile when you have already made up your mind?

Green Finers

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118620890#Comment_118620890

Just like David Cleary and his cronies murdered men, women and children in Derry???

Deja Boo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118618473#Comment_118618473

Whether he has been dead for 1 or 100, time matters not, our brain make-up prefers having puzzles solved. I would still be interested in knowing the late Charles Lindberghs actual role in the death of his "kidnapped" child (suspicions linger after he made such uncharacteristic moves for an innocent victim). ...and where the fook did Amelia Earhart end up, anyway? (enquiring minds want to know stuff, lol)

Green Finers

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118620842#Comment_118620842

Queen Margarethe of Denmark?

Queen of Sweden (Gustav’s wife)?

Queen Consort of Spain or Norway?

Green Finers

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118620842#Comment_118620842

If I said the Vice President or Deputy Prime Minister to whom would I be referring?

Heraclius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118622003#Comment_118622003

I condemn any murder or manslaughter of civilians by the IRA, loyalists or British army.