The Canada Convoy

bertiebomber

I notice there is no thread on the convoy crossing Canada its huge and Mr tyrant Trudeau has gone into hiding. Truckistan has a huge following its not being ccovered in the MSM of course as its against the narrative any thoughts? It is an amazing protest no violence or looting just peaceful objections to a future plutocracy surely we should have an opinion as these Canadians are just like we used to be before we became so submissive to the EU & so easy to manipulate.

A quick Google brings up multiple mainstream news sites discussing it including the BBC. I'm not feeling a whole amount of sympathy for them. If everyone had their attitude we wouldn't be exiting a pandemic at all. It also isn't really a hugely interesting news story for people in Ireland hence nobody really caring about it.

whisky_galore

Trudeau, a regular Joseph Stalin alright.

What aboot dem Canadian gulags eh?

bertiebomber

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586013#Comment_118586013

its about vaccine mandates we have already had three once they get mandates then it can be one every month if they like...... thats what it is about. Look at Austria making it law and fines of 3k if you dont comply. grand if you comply but absolutely wrong on so many levels.

high horse

Meh, eh?

bertiebomber

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586038#Comment_118586038

Ireland is a fucked country with your attitude.....

Fighting Tao

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586032#Comment_118586032

Ireland hasn’t have any vaccine mandates. There’s a conspiracy theory forum for nonsense like this.

EmmetSpiceland

The vocal minority strikes again.

bertiebomber

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586059#Comment_118586059

Once Austria has it Germany will follow and we will be told to follow which our lovely little EU pets will do .

Fighting Tao

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586063#Comment_118586063

Conspiracy theory forum ——>

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586032#Comment_118586032

They're the most likely group to carry a variant into the country.... It's about some ultra conservative anti vaccination conspiracy theorists more than anything. Also I suspect you're overestimating their overall actual momentum.

bertiebomber

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586067#Comment_118586067

Not a conspiracy just an observation i had two shots no more for me thanks !

Fiery mutant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058231493/the-canada-convoy

Mr Tyrant, Truckistan, MSN, narrative, Pluto racy, submissive, manipulate.

You've scored 100% on conspiracy bingo. Well done!

Your congratulatory badge is in the post.

Fighting Tao

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586072#Comment_118586072

You are claiming that Ireland will enforce mandatory vaccines. That is a conspiracy theory or nonsense depending on viewpoint. Are you admitting to posting nonsense?

You also claim it wasn’t covered in main stream media, which is incorrect You are saying everything right for the CY forum.

Btw, most anti-vaxxers also claim to be vaccinated at the start on boards for some weird reason!

bertiebomber

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586074#Comment_118586074

ah thanks always wanted a rosette or a badge whoop die doo

bertiebomber

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586080#Comment_118586080

no i just feel we will be obliged to have a vaccine mandate and i was very sick after my second shot. You cant imagine HOW ILL I WAS, thats why i was nervous to get another one so if theres a mandate i am going to be ill and uncomfortable and sore and un able to do anything like I was with 2nd shot. merely a litttle medical fear dont be soo mean to me. I had a bad shot and i am nervous to get any more i am not an anti vaxer.

dxhound2005

It has been discussed on the Covid forum. Page 1411 onwards.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058182855/covid-19-part-xxxv-956-720-roi-5-952-deaths-452-946-ni-3-002-deaths-08-01-read-op/p1411

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586094#Comment_118586094

You poor mite... I felt pretty sick after my first but y'know what COVID is far more unpleasant. And plenty of us know people who have been seriously ill or have died from it. So this is most likely why nobody less could care less about some annoyed truckers.

bertiebomber

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586133#Comment_118586133

thanks i just admire them for wanting to get rid of that plank Trudeau he really is a nasty piece of work. fairly hostile lot here, do what you are told and have no opinion and basically shut up !

Fighting Tao

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586147#Comment_118586147

I had a bad reaction to all vaccine doses, but it was nothing compared to what having covid was actually like. Also, the chance of dying is much less when vaccinated. Give me the vaccine any day rather than covid!

Why are you playing the ‘woe be me’ card? It’s a discussion forum, not an echo chamber, and so you’ll encounter different opinions to yours.

bertiebomber

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586157#Comment_118586157

of course i know that but telling me i am a conspiracy person when all i had was a fear of loads more shots and fines etc like Austria.

Fighting Tao

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586167#Comment_118586167

No, you claimed that media outlets were ignoring what’s happening in Canada, and you claimed they Ireland will enforce a vaccine mandate. That is why I said you are a conspiracy theorist or full of nonsense. I asked if you were posting nonsense and you ignored the question, so therefore you must fall in to the CT category.

bertiebomber

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586176#Comment_118586176

my fear was that we will follow Austria and therefore more misery for my body & i admired the convoy for fighting the mandate that s all.

dxhound2005

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586209#Comment_118586209

No need to be afraid, it's not going to happen.

bertiebomber

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586227#Comment_118586227

I hope you are right everything changes so quickly these days and so do the rules.......

dxhound2005

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586241#Comment_118586241

The rules don't apply to people who think they are bad rules.

There's a lot of worked up Gemma followers on Twitter about this who seem to believe there were 50,000 trucks in Ottawa last week.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586147#Comment_118586147

Nah, you're pushing conspiracy theories and I don't see it as very likely that they will change their policy any time soon.

HBC08

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586072#Comment_118586072

But what about this mandate you're talking about?

You'll be dragged out of your house to the vaccination centre.I suggest you panic immediately.

Ps there'll probably be a micro chip involved too.

BorneTobyWilde

Could someone tell Trudeau that the pandemic is over, geez, not as if it's a secret. How does he not know this, they've rode the Omicron wave, they're on a downward spiral with cases, now is the time to embrace herd immunity by lifting all restriction, not create new ones. Mass gatherings are the way to go right now, it's the perfect weapon in the current climate against Covid.

Danno

Fair play to the truckers. Mandatory vaccines are an abhorrent abuse of bodily autonomy. Omicron is little more than a head cold, there is no need whatsoever at this point in the pandemic to be mandating vaccination.

I suspect the kickback the OP is referring to is from those who gladly took the vaccine thinking it was the way out of the pandemic and are too proud to admit they were sold a pup. They then double-down on abuse towards those who hold differing opinions on the vaccines.

dxhound2005

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586299#Comment_118586299

If you have a head cold, don't go to work. It can be infectious.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586299#Comment_118586299

Certain jobs have required vaccines so I can't see a huge difference in this scenario. On top of that, you should take a glance at which group is far more likely to either die from COVID or face serious damage to their health. It's the unvaccinated. Also more likely to spread it since it stays active in system for longer.

Danno

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586333#Comment_118586333

Certain jobs like healthcare which is fair because folks going for the jobs know the lie of the land when it comes to requiring vaccinations. As for the rest of society - it's a non-runner. With regards spreading there is very little difference between vaccinated folks and unvaccinated folks spreading. Very few are doubting the effectiveness of vaccination with regards to having better outcomes for those who have poor immune systems or are elderly - this though, is not grounds for mandatory vaccinations.

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586333#Comment_118586333

I think the group you're thinking of is the elderly and those with co-morbidities

The coming years should be fun, watching the cheerleaders for this nonsense slink off as it becomes increasingly obvious that they were willingly led up the garden path.

Good luck to those truckers, you wouldnt see that level of autonomy in the best little country to do groupthink.

dxhound2005

Here are some examples of what groupthink can lead to. Stuff that is more likely to happen among Conspiracy Theorists, than normal people.

• Illusions of unanimity lead members to believe that everyone is in agreement and feels the same way. It is often much more difficult to speak out when it seems that everyone else in the group is on the same page.
• Unquestioned beliefs lead members to ignore possible moral problems and not consider the consequences of individual and group actions.
• Rationalizing prevents members from reconsidering their beliefs and causes them to ignore warning signs.
• Stereotyping leads members of the in-group to ignore or even demonize out-group members who may oppose or challenge the group's ideas. This causes members of the group to ignore important ideas or information.
• Self-censorship causes people who might have doubts to hide their fears or misgivings. Rather than sharing what they know, people remain quiet and assume that the group must know best.
• "Mindguards" act as self-appointed censors to hide problematic information from the group. Rather than sharing important information, they keep quiet or actively prevent sharing.

• Illusions of invulnerability lead members of the group to be overly optimistic and engage in risk-taking. When no one speaks out or voices an alternative opinion, it causes people to believe that the group must be right.
• Direct pressure to conform is often placed on members who pose questions, and those who question the group are often seen as disloyal or traitorous.

bertiebomber

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586299#Comment_118586299

thanks Danno a human who got my point !!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586526#Comment_118586526

The risk of long COVID is pretty high in all age groups and plenty of immunocompromised people in all age groups in Ireland.

Danno

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586702#Comment_118586702

There is no such thing as long covid outside of the immuno-compromised, the hypochondriac and the work-shy groups. Alot of doctors will play along to get the €60~€70 for writing the regular sick note that gets handed in to HR.

dxhound2005

Without know these doctors I expect you are right. None of them would put "Long Covid" on a medical cert for a worker. But it is a real thing, and has very serious medical consequences for some people, not only in the groups you know about. CIPD which is to do with HR, issues guidance.

https://www.cipd.ie/news-resources/practical-guidance/guides/long-covid#gref

Guidance on what long COVID is and how employers can manage employees suffering from its effects

Long COVID is a shorthand term for the long-term adverse effects of coronavirus. Many employees will feel better in a few days or weeks after coronavirus and the majority should make a full recovery within twelve weeks. However, for a significant minority of people, long-term symptoms of coronavirus can last for a significant period after an initial COVID-19 infection. Symptoms are extensive, ranging from exhaustion, breathing difficulties and breathlessness, continued fever, anxiety and stress, to muscle weakness, and the inability to walk. Others have heart or neurological problems. Lung abnormalities seem to last many months after infection and there seem to be post-viral fatigue symptoms similar to ME or chronic fatigue syndrome. There is increasing medical evidence that a small but significant minority of people who contract COVID-19 can still be seriously affected months after initially falling ill. As the virus is so new, medical knowledge about the effects of long COVID are still the subject of extensive research.

Long COVID symptoms can happen to people of all ages regardless of underlying health conditions and there will be some employees who are unable to return to full-time work for long periods.

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586783#Comment_118586783

More nonsense for the conspiracy theory forum

bertiebomber

Very severe headaches not unlike migraines are also a part of long covid.

end of the road

just a bunch of whinging, sniveling, anti-vaxer conspiricy theorist, covid denying loons who are simply throwing the toys out of the pram because they have lost and nobody is listening.

they are quite rightly treated as the irrelevance they are, fair play to the canadian government for not backing down.

end of the road

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586299#Comment_118586299

the vaccines are reasonably effective so nobody was sold a pup.

you lost, get over it.

HerrKapitan

I lost sympathy as soon as they were waving swastikas about.

end of the road

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586526#Comment_118586526

the only ones lead up the garden path were those stupid to believe the anti-vax, anti-science, anti-facts brigade.

the rest of us saw reality for what it was.

HerrKapitan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586209#Comment_118586209

Of course we will follow Austria being fellow EU members.

end of the road

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586783#Comment_118586783

the science and evidence says otherwise, i am afraid.

wrong again.

bertiebomber

abolish the indirect subsidy to the irish pub known as MUP. what does this mean ?

fullstop

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118587036#Comment_118587036

And it looks like this fella is moderating the Science & Health Moderators! Jesus wept 🙄

high horse

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586044#Comment_118586044

Wow, thanks! I had no idea my apathy to something happening in another country was so powerful...