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What's really going on with the recent Joe Rogan controversy?

  • 09-02-2022 9:19pm
    Registered Users Posts: 25 zerone

    As soon as I heard the recent "racist" claim (smear) being used against Joe Rogan I smelled a rat. It's a classic move. But I did wonder who was behind the smear and what they had to gain. I mean there are plenty of interests that would like to see him go away including a terminally ill, irrelevant mainstream media for one (CNN/Fox/MSNBC) and a corrupt political class for another (he shouldn't have spoken favourably of Bernie Sanders or Tulsi Gabbard, that's against the rules)

    Then I came across this analysis and it seems to make perfect sense...

    I mean at the end of the day this is all about power and control. Joe is (or has been) outside the influence of traditional (i.e. easily compromised) power structures. "They" (existing power centers) couldn't get to him. Until now perhaps...

    Do you think this SuperPAC explanation is convincing?



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,561 ✭✭✭✭ anewme

    Is that lad Jimmy Dore not a conspiracy theory fella?

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭ Dillonb3

    He tried claiming a few weeks ago the CIA was funding youtube channels to take him down 😂

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    Kyle Kulinski (very progressive) believes his episode was scrubbed because Joe may have used the n-word, regardless of context. (In this instance quoting a rap song). Initially he believed it was because he was talking about Saudi Arabia. Just a coincidence though that Spotify have just moved into the Saudi market. You lose hours worth of conversation because a no no word was used in context.

  • Registered Users Posts: 20,401 ✭✭✭✭ Tell me how

  • Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]

    I don't think his association/friendship with Alex Jones (another podcaster/online newstertainer that's based in ATX) is helping Rogan here either.

    Jones used to be the real deal, or at least, had some value, when he was just on Austin public access TV and early Internet radio, doing shows about the war-mongering Bush family, having shows on depleted uranium and gulf war syndrome, exposing the hypocrisy of the ruling elite on all sides. Over the years he has become a complete charlatan, a Trumpanzee, and a self-parodying joke.

    I don't think anyone should be silenced, but it's not a good look for Joe (who I never listen to, BTW).

  • Registered Users Posts: 16,963 ✭✭✭✭ silverharp

    there was some chatter that a Democratic Superpac was behind all the latest stuff, its midterm elections year so perhaps a bit of preemptive carpet bombing. Or just corporate shinnagans trying to take out the opposition.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,012 ✭✭✭ $hifty

    Bingo. Flew below the radar cos most people over a certain age hadn't a clue who he is/was. Got too big for his boots, had multiple episodes where he talked about the effectiveness of vaccines and how dangerous misinformation can be, how people shouldn't be spreading their own flawed 'research' etc.

    These days he's done a complete 180 and has become that which he railed against previously. He got Covid and claimed he beat it using Ivermectin........when in reality he used Ivermectin and a whole raft of other drugs and treatments out of the reach of the common man.

    “Monoclonal antibodies, ivermectin, Z-Pak, prednisone, everything. I also got an NAD drip and a vitamin drip and I did that three days in a row.”

    Once the spotify issue reared its head and the Neil Young saga went viral, all of a sudden he's in the spotlight and all his past indiscretions get raked up.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,963 ✭✭✭✭ silverharp

    Rogan would take over the world if he added one thing, a panel of live expert fact checkers. Joe Rogan talking to an "expert" is not a level playing field and I doubt Jamie could keep up.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭ donaghs

    I don't have time to listen to all of Joe Rogan's long form, sometimes 3 hour podcasts, but I listen to some now and then. I've heard in the media that he's spreading Covid misinformation. Can you confirm this? I don't believe he's anti-vaccine, but chose not to get it, after people he knew got very sick from it. He has interviewed vaccine sceptics, but he has also interview many others who take the opposing view. And you never hear from vaccine sceptics in mainstream media. Im triple vaccinated, but still like hearing alternative points of view. when that controversy blew up with Neil Young, Joe did promise to ensure more balance in his coverage.

    He has apologised for using the N-word. It was always a taboo word to call someone it, and rightly so. But now it has taken on magical powers, and it cannot even be used in a sentence like "President Harry S. Trumann used to refer to black people in private as N------". Or Huckleberry Finn was banned from schools due to the use of the word N-----". As far as I can tell from the short clips, Joe Rogan has never referred to someone as the N-word. But rather used it in different context, which are now unacceptable.

    Do you think he is racist, by as far as I can tell , referring to the n-word, rather than calling someone it, and then apologising?

    The Idea That Whites Can’t Refer to the N-Word - The Atlantic

    Its so taboo now that warning people not use a word which sounds like it is more than "problematic"

    Professor Is At Center Of Controversy Over Chinese Word That Sounded Like Racial Slur : NPR

    As far as I can tell , the anti-Joe Rogan smear campaign really got into gear when he supported Bernie over Hillary Clinton.

    Some Media Outlets Are Gaslighting Us About Joe Rogan | Psychology Today Ireland

  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,747 CMod ✭✭✭✭ ancapailldorcha

    Excellent video. Noah does indeed explain it quite nicely.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭ Brucie Bonus

    He knew using the N word was offensive but he really really wanted to. I think it was more about him thinking he should than any thoughts of the upset or insult it might cause.

    Black people being insulted by hearing it or not wanting to be called it is enough. We don't need a debate.

    He has admitted to being one sided on covid vaccines and restrictions.

    Hes playing up to his audience. He's a charactature.

  • Registered Users Posts: 20,401 ✭✭✭✭ Tell me how

    Just so happens Russel has a rapidly growing audience and consistently speaks out against an increasingly corrupt political class and media that does not serve the interests of the majority.

    Russel Brand has called on people to support Labour, I don't know who made the list and identified him as right wing, but I suspect someone who didn't know a huge amount by them.

    Him consistently speaking out against an increasingly corrupt political class and media that does not serve the interests of the majority is proof enough that he isn't going to be aligned with the UK right wing interests.

  • Can you point me me to some of Malone's research on any of the COVID vaccines? No?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 388 ✭✭ tommybrees