What's really going on with the recent Joe Rogan controversy?

What's really going on with the Joe Rogan controversy is that he drew attention to people outside of his target audience through pedaling conspiracy theory type nonsense and purporting to know more than people specifically trained in the field.

Neil Young, who knows intimately the benefits of vaccines said that he didn't want to have his music on a platform which willingly allowed someone to broadcast information that would likely lead to people getting sick or dying if they took his opinions as fact.

Then, once the light was shone on Joe, people started looking more closely at his show and found several instances of unacceptable behaviour leading to shows being removed. I understand Joe himself wanted them to be reviewed and removed as was done.

This is nothing like a case of government censorship some people are hoping and praying that it is.

What's the word?

As Rogan - as we can now see - has sold his own back catalogue to Spotify, along with editorial control over his future podcasts, for $100 million we can hardly say that he is any more independent of the corporatocracy than Young is. In this incident he seems to have compromised his own views and values on free speech in order to maintain his commercial interests in his relationship with Spotify. I wouldn't delude myself that Rogan is some kind of outsider.

That wouldn't be a "backfire"; it's what he's paid to do. Spotify paid him $100 million precisely because they thought he could bring them more listeners. And if this episode illustrates anything it's that he absolutely is able to be censored by the establishment - with his own co-operation.

there was some chatter that a Democratic Superpac was behind all the latest stuff, its midterm elections year so perhaps a bit of preemptive carpet bombing. Or just corporate shinnagans trying to take out the opposition.

Trevor Noah lays it out pretty well

Rogan would take over the world if he added one thing, a panel of live expert fact checkers. Joe Rogan talking to an "expert" is not a level playing field and I doubt Jamie could keep up.

I don't have time to listen to all of Joe Rogan's long form, sometimes 3 hour podcasts, but I listen to some now and then. I've heard in the media that he's spreading Covid misinformation. Can you confirm this? I don't believe he's anti-vaccine, but chose not to get it, after people he knew got very sick from it. He has interviewed vaccine sceptics, but he has also interview many others who take the opposing view. And you never hear from vaccine sceptics in mainstream media. Im triple vaccinated, but still like hearing alternative points of view. when that controversy blew up with Neil Young, Joe did promise to ensure more balance in his coverage.

He has apologised for using the N-word. It was always a taboo word to call someone it, and rightly so. But now it has taken on magical powers, and it cannot even be used in a sentence like "President Harry S. Trumann used to refer to black people in private as N------". Or Huckleberry Finn was banned from schools due to the use of the word N-----". As far as I can tell from the short clips, Joe Rogan has never referred to someone as the N-word. But rather used it in different context, which are now unacceptable.

Do you think he is racist, by as far as I can tell , referring to the n-word, rather than calling someone it, and then apologising?

The Idea That Whites Can’t Refer to the N-Word - The Atlantic

Its so taboo now that warning people not use a word which sounds like it is more than "problematic"

Professor Is At Center Of Controversy Over Chinese Word That Sounded Like Racial Slur : NPR

As far as I can tell , the anti-Joe Rogan smear campaign really got into gear when he supported Bernie over Hillary Clinton.

Some Media Outlets Are Gaslighting Us About Joe Rogan | Psychology Today Ireland

Russel Brand has called on people to support Labour, I don't know who made the list and identified him as right wing, but I suspect someone who didn't know a huge amount by them.

Him consistently speaking out against an increasingly corrupt political class and media that does not serve the interests of the majority is proof enough that he isn't going to be aligned with the UK right wing interests.

Lol. This old crap about him inventing MRNA. He didnt.

whats the craic with the young lads going into meltdown over this, joe does some great interviews, but he does interview some of the biggest arseholes on the planet at times, and talks absolute sh1te at times also, hes not all knowing folks, he really isnt.......

! Have only listened to him once. Know little about the guy.

one thing that I did like was that he is himself.

noah used to be funny, now he has changed to a corporate entity, he has lost his funniness and spark.

if rogan doesn’t loose that (not that I know enough about him) then good luck to him.

following the corporate line is not how rogan got there. Noah following the corporate line has destroyed a talented individual.