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Mixed race couples on tv ads **Mod Warning in Post #556**

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,233 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Aww, you're actually the victim in all of this. You just need to find out who to blame, maybe you can have a march or something to highlight your plight



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,928 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    With attitudes like yours of course mixed race kids find life in Ireland harder.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭vriesmays


    These adverts always feature Africans. White Irish don't seem to marry Asians or South Americans.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,613 ✭✭✭Feisar


    It's just bullshit virtue signalling. Same as the big corporations and their "support" of Price week/month or a trans kid on the late Late Toy Show.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭vriesmays


    Anyone got a link to a new Irish housing development featuring blacks.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,929 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams




  • Registered Users Posts: 20,929 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Do you think the actor that you take issue with should have not been given the role because of their colour?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭vriesmays


    Could be worse, back in the '80s these TV ads would use Twink in black face.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭JMNolan


    I think these ads are great. Any joe or josephine soap watching them know that's not representative of Irish society and therefore mistrust of what they see on TV is increased. Question the ads? You're immediately called racist. All the ads do is serve to sour people away from the alt-left which is great.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,126 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    'Virtue signalling' is missing the point that companies are mainly trying to sell a product and make a profit, not boost race relations.

    But it may well be a good strategy - research shows that younger consumers are more likely to purchase goods and services from companies with a diverse image (also from those who promote 'green' issues and sustainability).



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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,734 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    On the other hand, if you watch most sitcoms or movies, the black families are almost exclusively black - to the point of comedy if one brings home a white boyfriend/girlfriend (I remember it being a thing on the Fresh Prince once)

    It's amazing how these things are OK if from a certain viewpoint.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,676 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    I recently read a book on advertising, The Attention Merchants: The Epic Scramble to Get Inside Our Heads by Tim Wu. One take-away is that adverisers will use any societal trend to push their wares. Given in present day Ireland racism is the new heresy, then any criticism of such adverts can be used as evidence of wrongthink instead of what it usually is, criticism of a crappy product.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭Economics101


    I don't know what the census tells us about the proportion of the population which is of African or Asian descent. I gather that especially on social media there are wildly exaggerated numbers being thrown about regarding the number of Blacks, Immigrants and other categories by zenpphobes and racists. My problem is that over-representation of racial and/or ethnic minorities in advertising only gives credence to the racists.

    Advertisers, please represent reality and don't pander to any pressures for the right or left. Just tell the truth.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Surely an advertiser’s job is to lie, to show a fantasy of what the product will provide.



  • Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭BuildTheWall


    There’s a series of ads for Dove shower gel in the UK that show a police woman putting on her uniform and being empowered, another one shows a muslim woman. I had to laugh because it’s not even an ad, it’s just a political statement. The only way you know it’s a dove ad is because a tiny picture of the bottle comes up in the corner at the end.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,731 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    They could be South Americans. A lot more African slaves were taken to Brazil than to North America.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,856 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    A better living can be made telling us how how racist we are and how awful Ireland is to live in.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    No.

    More African slaves were taken to North America than Brazil.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users Posts: 568 ✭✭✭72sheep


    It is always a healthy personal choice to assume less evil intentions. The motivations for doing so are many: positive universe outlook, direct experience (here to corporate ad procurement),... The outcomes here are the same though, whether intentional or not. It is jarring, as opposed to comforting, to regularly see a depiction of daily life that does not relate to your personal experience. The influence of advertising is indisputable, these ads have an effect.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    I am in favour of diversity in advertising. However advertisers idea of diversity is making every second character in TV ads black.

    Not travellers, obese people, Asians, Indians.

    Corporations signal their diversity by hugely over representing black people in adds.

    In my view this lets these corporations off the hook on their own diversity and further exploits black people.

    For example on the front page of the Irish Times magazine on Christmas Eve was a cartoon of people in the windows of a red brick apartment block with pedestrians walking by outside. ALL the couples were mixed race.

    So far so diverse. Great. However how many black journalists, cartoonists etc in the Irish Times are black?

    How many black people have been editors or directors of the Irish Times?

    I think you know the answer.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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  • Registered Users Posts: 827 ✭✭✭HalfAndHalf


    How do you know they’re African? Or are you saying all black people are African?



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭jackboy


    No doubt the ads have an effect. I can’t think of a clear negative effect of this recent trend of ads though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 272 ✭✭mary 2021


    We are already short legged enough - our average height female 5'2 average height male 5'11 it would be shorter if we maried these races anyway women prefer tall men ^& the poles & africans are taller.



  • Registered Users Posts: 467 ✭✭nj27




  • Registered Users Posts: 272 ✭✭mary 2021


    Can you imagine trying to manage a few travellers on an ad set? One of them would remember their cousin saying something in 1960 & they would be off bare knuckle fighting and battering each other also the majority of irish people dislike the traveller community so ads with travellers would bomb on them, as they are known to be always on the look out for robbing & thieving and stealing family pets. So they dont use the old ethnics as they are racist against them . The irony of it !!! also they dont have a great lobby group like the Africans do - TLM doesn't have the same ring as BLM...........



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    I wouldn’t have thought African males were, on average taller than Irish males.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users Posts: 272 ✭✭mary 2021


    Look at their basket ball players some of them are 7 ft



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,308 ✭✭✭phormium


    One that annoys me and nothing to do with race side of it but woman gets txt saying babysitter can't make it and they can't go to parents anniversary dinner or something, why the hell can't she go and leave him there minding his kids, no reason for both of them to miss it!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Apologies, I was wrong.

    Thank you for correcting.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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