Djokovic

Freddie Mcinerney

Anyone know what is his medical exception?

Ubbquittious

I dunno, ask his djoktor

Atlantic Dawn

He has a pain in his hole.

He was turfed out i see, no more than could be expected under the circumstances.

standardg60

The clue is in the name, no vak

standardg60

Doc a witch

Peregrinus

This isn't public knowledge, since medical information is private. Officially Djokovic was granted a vaccination exemption by the Victorian State government to participate in the Australian Open on medical grounds, but we don't know the precise medical grounds.

We do know all the possible medical grounds - there's a published list of permitted medical grounds for a vaccination exemption, and Djokovic must have claimed one of them.

According to Twitter - and who could doubt information sourced on Twitter? 🙄 - the ground he actually relied on was that he had had PCR-confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection within the past 6 months, and therefore enjoyed natural immunity and didn't need to be vaccinated before the six months expires.

But, when he turned up at the airport and applied for entry to Australia, the Federal government - applying the same medical exemption criteria - asked for evidence that he had had Covid within the past 6 months, and he was unable to produce any. So, off to quarantine and an early flight home.

If this is true, the implication is that the Victorian authorities accepted a statement that he had had Covid within the past 6 months but didn't look for evidence to prove that. Or, that he had evidence which he gave to the Victorian government, but for some reason was unable to produce it to the Federal authorities at the airport (which seems unlikely).

cnocbui

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058226168/djokovic

He's a dick head. Luckily it's only mildly contagious.

Cookie_Monster

he doesn't have one and his visa has been rightly rejected

Novak Djokovic's wife shared a post which appeared to suggest 5G is to blame for the coronavirus, just a day after he said he's an anti-vaxxer

https://www.insider.com/novak-djokovic-wife-jelena-appears-to-suggest-5g-causes-coronavirus-2020-4

Freddie Mcinerney

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118424801#Comment_118424801

Mo Farah and most of Nordic skiers information is known.

Freddie Mcinerney

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118424849#Comment_118424849

Lol. That is gas.

Freddie Mcinerney

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118424815#Comment_118424815

It is spreading to the Serbian Government.

Freddie Mcinerney

Did he have a TUE from before?

Freddie Mcinerney

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118424801#Comment_118424801

So he could lie?

Peregrinus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118424883#Comment_118424883

Well, if we accept what we read on Twitter, one possible explanation of the course of events is that Djokovic (or someone on his behalf) lied in his application to the Victorian government for a vaccination exemption. But of course what we read on Twitter might be wrong, perish the thought.

Freddie Mcinerney

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118424901#Comment_118424901

I would say lie. If he wasn't on a TUE before, he was chancing his arm.

Peregrinus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118424904#Comment_118424904

I don't understand. TUE ("therapeutic use exemption") is an authorisation to take a performance-enhancing substance which would otherwise be prohibited, because you have a medical need for it. The issue here is that Djokovic wants to not take a substance which is not performance-enhancing and is not prohibited; I don't see that a TUE comes into it.

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058226168/djokovic

ASES

Arrogant, Self Entitled Syndrome.

whippet

Australia is an independent sovereign nation and sets the rules for entry ... he doesn't meet the requirements and the Aussie government don't seem to bow to pressure based on celebrity and from what I can tell most Aussies support this action

Dempo1

I got into a back and forth on the covid forums for daring to question what's really going on here.

I've absolutely not a jot of interest in his Vacination stance or status, this is all about a wink and a nod exemption with a quite bizzare sudden medical exemption used to justify this outrageous decision to permit him compete.

I'm just astonished the organisers who facilitated these Shenanigans were completely unaware how residents of Melbourne would react given what they've had to endure with lockdowns, restrictions for almost two years. This of course not the players fault but my god its astonishingly naive of his advisors not to have understood how this was going to panout.

Bad enough the Shenanigans but then to apply for a visa that doesn't permit medical exemptions is breathtakingly stupid.

Of course the conspiracy theorists will say its all about vacinnes, his stance Blaa Blaa Blaa, I see it for what it is, Different Strokes, For Different Folks and delighted it's back fired spectacularly.

Peregrinus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118425031#Comment_118425031

Yes. The Victorian government's decision to give him a vaccination exemption, so allowing him to participate in the Australian Open, got a very negative response from the public, and the Federal government's decision to deny him a vaccination exemption and so cancel his visa has attracted mostly celebratory comment.

It's still a bit embarrassing, though. Both the Victorian government and the federal government are applying the same published medical criteria to what is supposed to be a medical decision (is Djokovic exempt on medical grounds from the requirement to be vaccinated), and they are doing so based presumably on the same facts and the same evidence. But they have made diametrically opposed decisions. This causes confusion, not just for Djokovic but for anyone contemplating travel to Australia. Regardless of whether someone in Djokovic's medical situation should or should not be vaccine-exempt, the answer should at least be clear and you should be able to find out what it is before you start your journey. You shouldn't have to go all the way to Melbourne Airport to find out.

Be right back

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118425031#Comment_118425031

Apparently his deportation has been delayed due to legal appeals. Wouldn't be surprised if he is allowed to play after all.

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118425031#Comment_118425031

They absolutely do and he's not the first celeb to fall foul of well known Australian approach to arrogance 😉

Pinch Flat

Not sure if arrogance is a medical exemption.

BingCrosbee

I entered Melbourne on 20/12 and had to get a covid test in Ireland and Oz. I had to get another today for flying back tomorrow. He’s an arrogant ass…. In my opinion. Serbia is a typical eastern dictatorship and his behaviour would be typical of Soviet type states.

paul71

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118425081#Comment_118425081

Sylvester Stallone?

Francie Barrett

Novax Djokovic.

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118425093#Comment_118425093

Johnny Depp and his now Ex wife 😉

magicbastarder

i have heard a theory that one reason he doesn't want the vaccine is that he's at the tail end of his career and can't afford to lose a single percentage point of performance. if he had a bad reaction to the vaccine, it could cost him a tournament or more; most of the likes of us debating on message boards can take a couple of days of or continue working if we have a bad reaction, but it's his actual career to be able to perform better than 99.99999% of the population and he may be taking the 'i'll get it when i'm retired' approach.

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118425084#Comment_118425084

Ah Balkans in general are very anti vaccine. I have friends over there in different countries and they haven't a notion of getting the vaccine.

When I lived there, there was an outbreak of measles, and 15 children died. Imagine, from measles🙄

Someone told me, I don't know how much truth there is in it, that in communist times the governments would trial vaccines on people without their permission and that their distrust has continued on. I dunno, could be stories. Anyway, in this day and age you would think they would give their kids vaccines so they don't die from those diseases.