Weirs Rolex Waiting List

jcb1986

Hi all,

Ive been on the Rolex Daytona waiting list for 3-4 years. To be fair I haven't followed up or nagged them at all so I can only blame myself, but do you reckon I've probably just fallen off the waiting list or are they just impossible to get?

Also, do any of you know the approx waiting list for a submariner in Irish Rolex retailers?, Or will I just be laughed at for enquiring with a store?

Time

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058222736/weirs-rolex-waiting-list

The list for a Daytona is 10+ years. They don't do lists for new requests apparently, but i've no idea what if any impact that has on existing lists. Either way the list system wasn't exactly strictly adhered to it seems (which is understandable). No harm contacting them and seeing what they have to say.

893bet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058222736/weirs-rolex-waiting-list

You were never on the Daytona list to begin with unless you were known to them (and not on the Gardai type way). Them selling you a Daytona is them gifting you circa 15-20k basically.

Have you spent many multiples of 10k in there in the last two years? If not then don’t waste time even asking about the Daytona.

Sub will be doable if you are willing to play games like buying diamonds you don’t want or watches you don’t want. Or you may get lucky but unlikely.

Nonoperational

On the submariner list for almost 2 years. They lead me to believe it may not be too much longer but again I'm not holding my breath. I've not bought anything else there and as you said it's basically them handing you 5k in cash.

Fitz II

I have been waiting for any hype Rolex for 4-5 years. Bought 3 datejusts at retail (two womens) tudors, longines and some jewlery. Still nothing. Now they obviously hate me but even still not a sniff. On a sub or GMT your time waiting is worth more than the gray market premium.

gerfmurphy

on a wailist for a blue skydweller for 2 years, ask every 8 months or so, but I rekon even if it arrived I would literally be the last person they would call

Cyclingtourist

Anyone tried Liveline? These waiting lists are a public scandal.

FlubberJones

I've got to be honest here, why even bother... life if is too short to be waiting for a watch for 10 or more years... there are TONS of great great watches out there.

Now I am simply not Rolex fan, I believe over priced, there are billion forges out there and in my opinion a tad chavy.

Gimme an Omega any day, a Brietling or even a Tag (only a Monaco)... Before I would wait that many years.

Before the Rolex club get defensive, it's just my opinion

Fitz II

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118324288#Comment_118324288

I agree mostly about the why bother. It would be nice, but I would not be hanging around at the moment. I do like a Rolex espically the more classic ones. But I think there is something about things you cannot have for cheap that drives the market and the desirability. If you mentality is to avoid the entire game...I think you will have a happier life in all honesty.

I actually decided to spend my money with Joe Duffy instead CT. He happily took my order, and will deliver the goods in a few weeks. No messing. Even comes with a analogue clock.

893bet

if you think you are on a “list” for a sports Rolex and have not had a call in 12 months then you ain’t on any list and they will never think of you again until literally the place is about to bankrupt.

There is a queue of people to buy 30k solid gold Daytonas. A queue! A list. Whatever you want to call it.

Cyclingtourist

FitzII quote:

"I actually decided to spend my money with Joe Duffy instead CT. He happily took my order, and will deliver the goods in a few weeks. No messing. Even comes with a analogue clock."

😍

Credit Fitz for taking my post in the spirit it was intended.

893bet

Fitz II

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118324387#Comment_118324387

There is a long wait for daydates now. 36k solid gold watches. Traditionally these were the watches you bought to be considered for stainless but now they are just as, if not harder to get. Mens size datejust the same. The system now really only suits flippers.

fulladapipes

The whole waitlist thing - if such a thing even exists - makes me think think watch producers are playing us for mugs. It is demeaning and the two times I've been offered to be put on a list, I've said No both times. I'd rather spend my money elsewhere. It is also what has made me look to older watches rather than newer ones especially with Rolex. I'd like a new Explorer 1 (the 36mm one), but I ain't joining no queue.

Fitz has spent his money with Joe Duffy - I've done the same with a campervan in Germany (due in this week and I'm getting very excited - Christmas on a beach in Mayo).

Wibbs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118324472#Comment_118324472

The system now really only suits flippers.

Yep, they're the ones driving the market with non AD third party dealers egging them on, with a few easily swayed by trend non flippers sitting and waiting all glassy eyed from the hype. As Full says the companies most in vogue in this market must be laughing themselves silly. Although they don't get the flipper profits on the brand new watches they make and sell, their stock is guaranteed to sell.

Cyclingtourist

I'm boycotting Weirs. Think I'll get a group together and parade up and down outside like people used to do outside that fur shop down from them before most of you guys were born.

Nonoperational

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118324288#Comment_118324288

I mean it’s not really a big stress man. Put your name Down and forget about it. If it happens it happens. The sub and GMTs are still super watches imo. I have a SMP and about to get a Navitimer but the sub still does something for me.

Viscount Aggro

I could buy these Rolex in weirs, if I wanted. I'm on the annual Xmas party invite list.

maybe they should have a competition with the HSE to see which waiting list is the most ludicrously long? 😂

LawBoy2018

Who in Weirs dictates these unspoken rules? Would it be possible to call in and ask about these "lists" or would I be laughed out of the shop?

scwazrh

Does it really matter if there is list or not anymore ? RRP is a make believe figure .The price of a watch is what ever you have to pay to get it and whether it’s worth it or not is a personal thing. Yeah it’s annoying to think if you could be on a list you could of got it cheaper but these are non essential items so actual value for money doesn’t come into it .

Fitz posted a good while ago that if you want to play the Rolex game , forget about RRP and just pay the grey market price .That’s really the only way to look at it.

Nonoperational

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118327995#Comment_118327995

Yeah agreed.

Birneybau

A Rolex is the ideal product... the ultimate merchandise. No sales talk necessary. The client will crawl through a sewer and beg to buy.

Paraphrasing William S. Burroughs

Cyclingtourist

Lots of equally good watches out there at less than RRP and no waiting. People need to stop flexing and be more flexible.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118329727#Comment_118329727

Roflexing. Sick of it.

pjdarcy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118329727#Comment_118329727

Exactly. Most people wouldn't even consider your standard Rolex as haute horlogerie. There's better value and way more interesting watches out there for submariner money in my opinion but each to their own I suppose. Watches are very personal things at the end of the day.

Fitz II

When it comes to watches more desirable than Rolex usually there are waits too. Sports patek, Overseas, AP, ALS....sure you can buy more expensive watches out of the window, and cheaper ones. But desirability is dictated by the market not the individual. I think a lot of posters here will testify that a Rolex is a fine watch and a even finer thing to own. Usually when people say a certain watch is "more interesting" they are also saying its esoteric and appeals to relatively few and is less desirable. I have had a great many watches that were "better than a rolex" or "better than a submariner" and I can tell you they were not. They were easy to get and easy to lie to yourself about. Its the very rare bird that is spending Rolex money and above on out there watches, they are the true hero's.

Good new though, you can have any rolex you want tomorrow if you are willing to pay. Its only cheap Rolex are hard to get. Its like property, sure you can get a better house for the same of less money outside Dublin...but then you dont get to live in Dublin. Some people like that some people dont. Its stupid however to tell somebody looking for a house in Dublin to go buy one in Donegal, but its easy for the Donegal dweller think house prices in Dublin are mad, they dont value the Dublin location.

Rolex watches stand the test of time, from a design, robustness and value retention view point. Most people myself included like to have things other people also like and want, and I buy what I like.

Cyclingtourist

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118330951#Comment_118330951

"Most people myself included like to have things other people also like and want, and I buy what I like."

Yes I get it that you're a fan of Rolex and that's your choice. Personally I prefer Omega and that's mine. So I buy what I like which may be an Omega and then if it's just to wear biking or whatever it could be a Citizen Eco-Drive.

Mostly the general population don't notice what watch you're wearing unless maybe it's a glittery two-tone studded with diamonds. Most other people don't care and increasingly most other people don't wear a watch.

What's the waiting list like for the McGregor watch?

Fitz II

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118331646#Comment_118331646

Discontinued and limited run, no list to wait on, no watches to buy. One might come up on the gray market. But it was a weirs anniversary special edition from patek and all were sold (think only 70 made??). McGregor didnt get one because he was famous he got one because he spends big in there.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118331847#Comment_118331847

I meant the 2 million euro King of Pimps watch

Fitz II

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118331942#Comment_118331942

They dont sell Jacob and Co....god they are terrible looking watches.

Slightly off topic, but are these "lists" a thing with most of the famous watch brands? If I had the cash (I won't any time soon!) could I walk into a shop and buy an Omega Seamaster tomorrow or would I have to faff around.

Fitz II

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118332271#Comment_118332271

Omega is mostly OK and they have them in stock for sale. There are a few limited edition that are hard to get. Certain Rolex, Patek, AP, Lange, VC are waiting list watches. A good few of those are small boutique brands. Of the main highstreet brands Rolex and Patek are the hard ones to get (and only certain watches in the range at that) As I type this out I realise how mind boggling this is unless you know it already.

scwazrh

@Fitz II Omega is mostly ok

Unless you want something nice from omega like a snoopy, then the lists start.

As I type this out I realise how mind boggling this is unless you know it already.

i was asked by a colleague about the value of the sub I was wearing , he was genuinely interested in the watch so I didn’t mind talking figures with him . So explained to him I paid just under €9k for it but the real price is €13k ish .The look of bewilderment on his face when he asked the obvious question of “ why you would you pay €13k for a second hand watch when it’s only €9k new in the Jwellers “ .

It’s a hard enough question to answer in a way that makes sense to non watch enthusiasts.

Cyclingtourist

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118333470#Comment_118333470

You should refer your colleague to Teddy B's YT channel. He gives the best explanation I've come across and it's relatively easy to understand.

The Real Reason No One Can Buy A Rolex or Patek Right Now - A Breakdown of the Shortage 2021 - YouTube

galvo_clare

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058222736/weirs-rolex-waiting-list

Why not try Switzerland? Bought mine back in 07 from a small dealer in Interlaken. Emailed back and forth and had the job done in half an hour once I reached the shop. I still didn’t know exactly what I was going to buy but he had good stock of Daytonas and presumably other models.

Things may be different now but I bet they’d be more accommodating than Weirs. Got a very good price too.

Fitz II

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118345796#Comment_118345796

07 was 15 years ago....things have changed a lot. You could get a lot of watches no problem back then that are very hard to get now. Without a long and substantial spend history no Rolex AD anywhere in the world will get you a daytona. Now there may be the odd youtube or instagram post of some fellow "getting the call" after only a short wait, or finding a loose one in a airport AD but these are a tiny minority, and sometime I think these stories are dangled there like lotto winners to keep everyone in the game and buying.

Cyclingtourist

I blame flexers and flippers.

Edser

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118345871#Comment_118345871

Yep. Asked a friend living in Switzerland to check earlier this year, and quite snooty reply was the same as here - "are you a previous customer?" and all the usual models are in "high demand and a 2 year list"

galvo_clare

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118345948#Comment_118345948

Things have changed so. My guy told me if I ever wanted a SS Daytona he’d get me one straight away. He’s probably retired by now.

Wibbs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118346949#Comment_118346949

Yep, there's been a massive shift in the last few years. This forum started in 09 and it was a few pages before Rolex were mentioned and that was in regard to where you could get one at a discount. Getting one was no problem. Used prices were naturally cheaper than new and discounts could be had. Entirely the opposite of today.

Bluefoam

Just buy a different watch... I just couldn't be arsed getting on a list to be allowed to spend 6-25k... If you want to make money, then invest... If you want a luxury watch, buy one that someone is willing to sell you.

If you want to feel special because someone arbritarilly decided to sell you an artificially exclusive watch, then you need more purpose in your life...

California Dreamer

What about going to Dawson Jewellers? The last time I was in there they had a decent selection of Rolex.

Fitz II

Dawson are a grey market dealer in second hand mostly watches. They can get you any Rolex you want. At a premium over retail.

Cyrus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118356184#Comment_118356184

and a bigger premium that you will pay someone in italy or germany or the netherlands on C24.

as fitz says, there is no problem getting one, WF have 100s, there are 1000s on C24, you just have to forget abour retail prices.

Not helped by the huge Chinese market viewing watches as an investment hedge against inflation now that property there is falling out of favour

Chinese investors pick luxury watches over houses

The wealthy are spending their extra cash on Rolexes as rare downturn grips property sector For some customers, expensive watches are not only a marker of social status but also a hedge against inflation China’s once enthusiastic property investors are turning their attention to luxury watches as a better store of value in the face of slowing economic growth and President Xi Jinping’s intensifying campaign against housing speculation.

Multiple high-end watch resellers told the Financial Times that business had taken off in recent months as wealthy individuals stopped buying additional homes and instead spent their extra cash on luxury timepieces such as Rolex and Patek Philippe. The shopping spree, said experts, has contributed to a 40 per cent surge in China’s imports of Swiss watches in the first 10 months of this year even as the broader economy cooled off. Camille Gaujacq, an analyst at Daxue Consulting, a Shanghai-based market research group, said a downturn in the real estate industry, once the “go-to investment” for China’s wealthy class, had prompted many to look for alternatives.

“Luxury watches can be the answer,” said Gaujacq.

https://www.ft.com/content/a9a34f94-9a49-4938-ae9e-ec4e6d2f4838

Cyclingtourist

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118366958#Comment_118366958

Forget retail, just pay whatever it takes. Gotta get a Rolex,

And they say there's no bubble.

scwazrh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118367310#Comment_118367310

Now you’ve got the idea CT ..

Cyrus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118367310#Comment_118367310

If you want one yes, at this point retail is meaningless.

Birneybau

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118332206#Comment_118332206

Like something from one of those grabber games in a dilapidated seaside arcade