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Taxed to the hilt

  • 15-10-2021 11:51am
    Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭ Silent Shrill

    I guess many of you heard how much the govt take when you spend 100e worth of fuel?

    57 euro goes to the bunch of greedy politicians who are all wealthy. Oh, of course, it does not go to them directly, it goes into the countries coffers.......then gets shared out among the elite.

    5e increase for unemployed and a miserly increase in minimum wage. By the time you pay the extra cost of a bag of coal it is gone on 2 bags, leaving you to pay for the rest of the tax rises out of the crappy wage you were getting to start off with.

    I bet you any money the politicians will be getting more than 5e per week increase though.

    This country is stuck in a time-warp. Old people dictate as to how we should live and work, and many of them never worked themselves! In the last 20 years there has been no significant increase in the amount of quality jobs that are not on minimum wage.....especially in rural areas.

    No wonder the Irish left this country in their droves, there's nothing here for them.

    I did put up a post about minimum wage, but as per usual, those that are not on minimum wage stated that, "that is all they're worth". What a bunch of old-fashioned, dictatorial, stuck-up wasters, those people are. They care not about people, they see them as some form of tool to be used then discarded when not wanted. They even treat their own fellow man like they are simply slaves.

    Have you noticed the pattern that has been going on for centuries? Promise the working class change for the better, then when them more.....discreetly.

    There has to come a day when the final straw will break your back, it is fast approaching. How long can you keep paying out more but getting no more in your income? will you wait until you are evicted? will you wait until there is no food? Maybe you will, as most working class are sheep. They believe what they are told by politicians and the minions of that govt that are alive and kicking on forums such as these.

    There is no fairness in the world, get that through your heads. Govts see unemployed as people they could do without, they see the minimum wage earners as canon fodder, they see middle class as wannabees. The only people govt see as worthy of anything.......are themselves, and that is what they do.....treat themselves.

    You carry on in your minimum wage job, thinking you are thought of differently as the unemployed are. Thing is, you are not really thought of any differently, as you have what the unemployed have...but you are working for it...and you pay for your medical on top!

    So the next time you put 20e of fuel in your car/bike, thank the govt for taking over half that to pay for their own upkeep and rises. Forget about the tax you pay on everything else, you agreed to that by voting for them.

    This is no democracy, it is simply dictatorship in sheeps clothing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭ JimmyVik

    Government legislation causes rents to go up.

    Guess how much of those rents people are paying are going in taxes?

  • Registered Users Posts: 75,873 ✭✭✭✭ Atlantic Dawn

    I think we could do with more whistleblowers showing us where money is blown sideways.

  • Registered Users Posts: 11,125 ✭✭✭✭ Collie D

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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,701 ✭✭✭✭ VinLieger

    Yes unfortunately, it doesn't help that we still use a general pot that everything comes from. We really need to be far more clear what taxes are going where to get uninformed people like the OP to start trusting in our tax system again.

  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 45,269 CMod ✭✭✭✭ magicbastarder

    i'm not sure i buy this 'different pots for different things' idea. what's the underlying principle that if i pay VAT buying clothes, or petrol, for example, that this money should then go in a specific direction?

    other than to justify to the public why a particular scheme, which should be funded, is not already being paid for from the public purse.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,978 ✭✭✭ Mongfinder General

    Nobody cares as much about you as you do. And very few people care about what you think. If you think your output in a job is worth more then ask for more. If you can’t get what you want then ask yourself what is it you’re offering that is so valuable to command a wage or salary commensurate with your demands. Do you really think a minimum wage job should pay €15 per hour while a Doctor in the HSE pays half of their €100k salary in taxes to support you and the unemployed?

  • Registered Users Posts: 15,328 ✭✭✭✭ banie01

    I tried that but, then I just drank more...

    And fúck me if those global elitist politicians didn't manage to get shnakey taxes in on that too!🤷‍♂️

  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,121 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Sam Russell

    Well, they tried to get people to pay directly for water, but that did not get public approval so now water is paid out of general taxation.

    Of course we do not have enough money put towards sewerage and water pollution. We do not have enough money for health, transport infrastructure, or anything else. If only people would agree to pay more tax!

  • Registered Users Posts: 26,996 ✭✭✭✭ Wanderer78

    yup, our political and economic systems have been effectively de-democratised, and we ve been moving more towards a more plutocratic lead world, while wealth pays little or no taxes, the majority of the tax bill falls on labour and consumption, this approach is now running out of space to continue, time for something different.....

  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭ Pussyhands

    Where are they going to find all this tax money when we're all forced to be driving electric vehicles?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,287 ✭✭✭✭ Thelonious Monk

    We need to move away from using private vehicles full stop, regardless of how it's powered.

  • Registered Users Posts: 26,996 ✭✭✭✭ Wanderer78

    we ll just invent new types of taxes, and increase existing ones, simple game really....

  • Registered Users Posts: 26,996 ✭✭✭✭ Wanderer78

    partly, but modern life is ultimately based on them, changing our mode of transport simply wont work....

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,188 ✭✭✭ lawrencesummers

    I would imagine they will consider a range of options, like taxing tyres, or annual license fees, or more tolls on the roads, definitely higher motor tax, congestion charges etc etc.

    But its a long long way from now before there is a sizable percentage of cars electric.

  • Registered Users Posts: 26,996 ✭✭✭✭ Wanderer78

    funnily enough, the private sector wastes an astonishing amount of money also, but we dont like talking about that

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