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People who are gay using changing rooms

  • 11-10-2021 8:47am
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    Registered Users Posts: 644 ✭✭✭ Skyrimaddict


    This was something which my friends, two of whom are gay, were chatting about at the weekend.

    One of them, who is gay and has been " out and proud" since we were 15, 20 years ago was chatting about his new gym, and one of the other lads made a joke saying it must be great for you, the changing rooms, to which himself being the group messer said it the only reason he goes. we did all fall around the place laughing.

    Is it the same mind you, for a gay man to go to a dressing room, as it would be for a straight man to go to a ladies dressing room? I had actually never thought about it before!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 30,466 ✭✭✭✭ Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    No, unless the ladies changing room is full of lesbisns.

    Do NOT ask me how I define the terms "man", "woman", "male" or "female" when you reply to this post. You know the answer and it's probably irrelevant to the discussion :)



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,824 Mod ✭✭✭✭ magicbastarder


    Is it the same mind you, for a gay man to go to a dressing room, as it would be for a straight man to go to a ladies dressing room? I had actually never thought about it before!

    i think you should think about it a little more. the two scenarios are not comparable.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭ The Mighty Quinn


    Nudity ≠ Sexual

    Like somebody above said, once you're not a teenager or totally inexperienced, the sight of a naked body suited to your sexual orientation doesn't automatically result in arousal. Sure it might be a nice image, but you're highly unlikely to be standing to attention.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,759 ✭✭✭✭ rob316


    Once your out of your school years you realize been nude around the same or even opposite sex isn't arousing. I remember one lad in our class in school used to shower fully naked and lads use to run out of the showers when he came in. I laugh now, the efforts we used to go to covering yourself while you dressed. I'd be in the gym changing room now and I'd often find myself chatting to someone, both of us naked for about 10 mins and wouldn't give it a 2nd thought.



  • Registered Users Posts: 644 ✭✭✭ Skyrimaddict


    Thanks all,


    And no, not imaginary friends as one poster pointed out, we are a group of 8 lads who know each other since secondary school, so yes there will be some changes in the group over the years, we all still play rugby with each other and know each other very well. The gay friend in the question above is actually my second child godfather, so there isn't an issue with him, or anyone, who is gay.

    It was merely a question around is it similar for a gay person in a changing room as it is for a straight person in the opposite sex dressing room. I agree with what someone said above, I think the novelty would wear off very quick, and some 80 years old man drying his balls off would def not be fun :)



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭ the dunne


    I hope for your sake its not true. Because that would be absolutely horrible.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,824 Mod ✭✭✭✭ magicbastarder


    i have been in the unfortunate position of having had a conversation with my then boss in the changing room in work while he was casually flossing with a towel. even if i had been gay, i suspect it's an image i would still recoil at.



  • Registered Users Posts: 644 ✭✭✭ Skyrimaddict


    Oh I can beat that one, a 80-year-old man putting on his socks this morning in the gym, dried himself off then started with the socks, bent over, with nothing else on.

    That was a fun start to the day .


    Fair play to him for hitting the gym at 7 in the morning at his age mind you.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭ JimmyVik


    My cousin, sitting down leaning forward with his towel around him said to me one day in a changing room .

    "You'll have to go into the gym me. I have an awful horn on me and i cant get up yet. Did you see that lovely arse on yer man over there."

    Off I went. He came out about 10 mins later and said "Usually it goes down quicker than that one the object of the horn leaves, but this one stayed a while".



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,540 ✭✭✭✭ Thelonious Monk


    Who even cares, I'm one of those people who walks around the gym changing rooms bollock naked with no hang ups. I think I got over it in my early 20s. Unless dudes are like staring my dick/body out of it (and why wouldn't they I'm gorgeous), I couldn't really care less.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭ Hamachi


    You're my worst nightmare!

    The nudity bit doesn't bother me in the slightest. However, I hate when a stranger tries to initiate small talk with me when we're both starkers.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭ the dunne


    Yeah...if you are talking for 10 minutes while naked, thats more than a little odd.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭ thefallingman


    It's a bit of a weird question like are all gays obsessed with looking at mickey ?! If women were in there would all the men just stand there looking, i don't think so, like others have said, most people are pretty private and just want to quickly get changed and leave., and i'm deffo one of them.

    i really don't like other men walking around starkers though personally, no one wants to see and generally it's the really ugly ones who do it aswell i mean wtf



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,063 ✭✭✭ Gregor Samsa


    The nudity bit doesn't bother me in the slightest. However, I hate when a stranger tries to initiate small talk with me when we're both starkers.

    In Iceland, you're required to shower naked before getting into a swimming pool. They do offer a private cubicle, but most people just use the communal ones, chatting away.

    Off topic, but the weirdest naked encounter I had was in some swimming area in Killiney popular with naturists. It was February, I was invited there by someone who didn't swim naked. I brought my wetsuit and snorkeling gear (not knowing until I got there that it was a naturist spot) because it was fúcking cold. Sitting on a step putting on my fins, and this naked old guy comes over, bits dangling exactly at my head height, with his hands on his hips, to encourage me to shed the suit and enjoy the freedom he obviously did. The freezing water clearly had no anatomical effect on him.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,249 ✭✭✭ Mister Vain


    The OP and his friends.




  • Registered Users Posts: 10,540 ✭✭✭✭ Thelonious Monk


    Yes I saw there naked recently myself when I saw other people were doing it of both sexes, it's kind of freeing. Some real Victorian attitudes on this thread!



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭ the dunne




  • Registered Users Posts: 23,323 ✭✭✭✭ Peregrinus


    I don't know that it has to do either with Victorian attitudes or with Catholic guilt. I think it's a consequence of a culture which is generally more open about sex, and therefore more sexualised; we are more likely to read sexual or erotic significance into events or situations that, in the past, we would have seen as having negligible sexual significance.

    We see this in changing rooms where younger adults (who are nevertheless old enough to be beyond the age of adolescent self-consciousness) are more inclined to cover up as much as possible while older people are more comfortable being naked in a changing room because, hey, it's a changing room; that's the whole point.



  • Registered Users Posts: 68,333 ✭✭✭✭ seamus


    I think you've very much got that backwards tbh. Cultures which are less open about sex, tend towards more sexualisation of the mundane. Cultures which are more open about it, see sexual themes in sexual places rather than in the everyday.

    One could point to the US as being a counter-example, but the US is schizophrenic. Publically very prudish, very puritanical. But privately very open. This creates the split personality where even the slightest double entendre or exposed ankle in public is exciting and sexual. Where someone might have a sex swing in their basement, but if the neighbour did some topless sunbathing, they'll call the cops. Because the requirement is that nudity remains private and therefore any suggestion of public nudity is sexual. People in the US get on the sex offenders' register for taking a piss in public. That's what being closed about sex does.


    Other cultures which are actually open publically about sex; think most of Europe; do not automatically sexualise nudity. Because nudity is not automatically a private matter.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,323 ✭✭✭✭ Peregrinus


    Yeah, on reflection I think you're right. Contrast the attitude to nudity in saunas and swimming pools, say, between the UK/UK on the one hand and the Nordic countries on the other.

    I don't think it's a Catholic/Protestant thing, obviously, since both the US/UK and the Nordic countries are historically predominantly Protestant cultures. And it's not even a puritan thing, since they are both marked by puritanism in their own ways. Maybe it comes down to the US being puritanical about sex and alcohol, and Nordic countries being puritantical about alcohol but not sex (and Ireland being puritanical about sex but not alcohol).



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,556 ✭✭✭ greenspurs


    i dont think its really a 'thing' ?

    Have been involved in lots of different sports, and showering afterwards, never noticed men taking more than a glance.

    But thats normal i guess ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭ The Mighty Quinn


    Maybe you're just nothing special to look at 😁😋



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,556 ✭✭✭ greenspurs




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