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"Green" policies are destroying this country

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  • Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭Compo82


    Eamon Ryan at it again. Seriously radical nonsense and the government need to put a stop to this. These policies are just increasing costs for everyone trying to get to work and further destroy Dublin City Centre. It will turn into some getto where no one will go to shop. The sooner the Greens are put out on their ear the better.

    Revealed: Congestion charges, lower insurance costs for car pooling and phasing out rebate schemes – Government’s new draft transport strategy laid bare | Irish Independent



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,043 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Can't see the insurance companies being on board with that. An industry that is notoriously risk averse, reducing costs when the risk is higher.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,628 ✭✭✭corks finest


    He's a thundering langer , congestion charges 🙄🙄

    His party are blocking progress

    ( ie Cork - Limerick motorway)

    Creating cycle lanes that go nowhere 🙄

    Etc etc

    So not in tune with the Irish ppl it's staggering,

    They're not wanted,a yummy mummy party of woke gowls



  • Registered Users Posts: 882 ✭✭✭JPCN1


    They know they’re getting wiped out in a GE so trying to force this sh1t through before they’re held to account.

    Town is dead. Eamon just wants to bury it now.

    Greens are kryptonite to the tourism and hospitality sector.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,799 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I wouldn't be at all concerned at Eamon Ryan's latest anti-car proposals. If they're only going to Cabinet today, there's not a hope there will be legislation in place to enact them by the end of this Dáil.

    Certainly, after the wallop the Greens will inevitably take at the local elections, he probably won't even be too keen to advance it himself ahead of a GE.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭ginger22




  • Registered Users Posts: 14,873 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Ryan, like others of his ilk within the E.U., was talking when he should have been listening and even now with their NRL in tatters he is still doing it. For the leader of a party that was threatening to collapse the government if they didn`t get their way on the pointless exercise of culling cattle numbers to claim that he stood with farmers protesting across Europe " because the truth is our farmers don`t get paid properly" is laughable. Does he think farmers are protesting all over Europe because they believe all this Green Deal proposed legislation is going to pay them too much.

    Belgium have the E.U. rotating presidency until the end of June and as they are going to abstain from voting on this NRL then I would not see Belgium having an appetite for putting much effort into passing this law under their presidency before the E.U. elections in June. After June the presidency moves to Hungary for the next 6 months and Hungary has said it will vote against. Hungary is not like Ireland cowing to every edict that comes from Brussels and have shown they are well able for horse trading. I would have thought the E.U. would have moved on from the "democracy" of the Lisbon Treaty where we had to keep voting until they got the result they wanted, but if anything they appear to have regressed even further and a vote on this NRL will be delayed indefinitely until backroom diplomacy gets the result Ryan and Co. want.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    The only concerning part in that article is the "Diesel rebates should also be phased out, as well as other subsidies on fossil fuels" which will affect the hauliers delivering goods and to the farmers producing food which will lead to higher prices at the Supermarkets.

    The rest will most likely occur even if the Greens aren't in power..



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,749 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    you're still going to see "anti-car" measures coming through though without any greens, look at dun laoighaire, most who voted in favour of the new scheme weren't green councillors. did you not say that you knew some councillers who said it wouldn't pass, lol?



  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭TheHouseIRL


    You're a bold man to be making political predictions with your track record



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,360 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    This very thing is what had farmers and hauliers on the streets of Germany not so long ago, and the measures were reversed. Currently you can't run heavy machinery on batteries and removing diesel rebates will drive costs. But sure that's no surprise, hardly anything the greens introduce reduces costs.

    A lot of Dublin should be pedestrianised. I was in Liverpool recently and there's a big section around Liverpool One that's all pedestrianised and it was heaving. If done right, it could be a big thing for the city. The key is being able to move people and goods around that area where you can't drive through. This is where it would falter here as the starting point is no vehicles, not how better to move them. Personally, I'd start with pedestrianising a big section around Trinity and Stephens Green. I'd also demolish a lot of what's there and build up towards the clouds with shops, offices and homes.



  • Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭ToweringPerformance


    More Green propaganda now on RTE 1 with that forever doomster Philip Boucher Hayes. More reasons to not pay that licence fee.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,144 ✭✭✭opinionated3


    Annoying to listen to Ryan on the last word this evening and mentioning Limerick as a shining example of changing the way the city centre operates. It's been turned into an absolute **** show. Shops closing left right and centre and no replacements in sight. Traffic nightmare due to ridiculous cycle lanes that aren't even used. If Limerick is the future then God help us



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭PommieBast


    Does anyone under 45 actually have a telly anymore? The only time I ever watch(ed) RTE/BBC is/was in the pub..



  • Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭ToweringPerformance




  • Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭ToweringPerformance


    Dundrum main street the same here in Dublin. Green's had a brainwave to put in a massive cycle lane and make the traffic one way and businesses have died a death.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,009 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Just to note, you're linking to what amounts to a Chinese conspiracy site. Generally seems to get linked to when somebody wants to make outlandish claims.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,416 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    I don't blame the EU for taking a stance on climate control. The fact of that matter is aside from the countries being severely affected ie Africa, parts of Asia etc who are right now experiencing severe climate issues is that the EU is going to be heavily impacted as a result of these disasters. EA is right on their doorstop so they know that migration will significantly increase 100/1000x over the next decade or two.

    The only way to combat is to reduce our footprint...this means reducing air travel, reducing food exports, no more importing beef from Argentina etc, no more exporting beef from Ireland across the world. Each country should only produce what they need and that's it.

    but its not going to happen. Too many vested interests.

    Drastic measures are required but Eamon is too much of a muppet to actually deal with it plus he's thoroughly unlikeable and comes across as a complete spoofer.

    Watch as our children and their children hammer the current generations for the state in which we've left the planet.

    And believe me..I'm not a green supporter but even I can see the writing is on the wall and the species is facing a massive climate crisis in the next 30 years or so if we continue doing the same ****.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,749 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Eamon is unpopular now, imagine he tried to implement measures that would actually be required to reduce our footprint drastically? It's a lost cause.

    You're right about migration, as it gets worse and worse in the poor global south, you would imagine they'll all just migrate north to europe and usa etc. in their millions and billions even. hopefully we're all dead before it gets really bad.



  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭TheHouseIRL


    How many businesses in Dundrum have closed since the implementation of the one way system? None that I've noticed.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,749 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    they invent these lies, like people going on about all the businesses being destroyed in fairview because of the works there.



  • Registered Users Posts: 366 ✭✭bluedex


    Turned it off straight away. I'm sure I wasn't only one.

    Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The Fairview example was one business that was closing down anyway and yet our crap media took it as gospel that it was due to the works

    In the UK right now there's similar lies going on about a bridal shop apparently losing some huge amount of their business causing them to move to a town without traffic restrictions.

    The owner had said she'd been looking to move to that specific town since before COVID, the traffic restrictions are far far newer.



  • Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭ToweringPerformance


    I watched it all i must admit out of curiosity. Zero balance, no debating, no questions pure doom porn. I should have known better i just find it utterly disgraceful as RTE is meant to be a public service broadcaster and yet here they are pushing a green agenda from a political party that garnered a tiny 5% of the electorate vote last time out and is set to be decimated at the ballot box next time out.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,623 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    In fact when towns/village shut down traffic in them during covid it was a huge success and got families back into them.

    Not much fun trying to bring kids etc to a village/town when the entire thing is full of cars and some think they are driving a race track around it



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,360 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    Dublin city centre would be the opposite where the scum took over and are still a huge presence. Though I was up in the DAFM yesterday and strolled around that part of the city. I was pleasantly surprised not to encounter too many wasters. Long may it continue.

    In not so positive news, a Dublin-Galway bus route is closing due to lack of passengers




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,623 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    The stories of "scum took over" are coming from people who are never in Dublin city centre.

    Before covid you had dodgy spots, after covid you had dodgy spots. If you listened to people you are not able to walk down the street in daylight anymore in Dublin without been attacked.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,360 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    Yeah it was bad before, but is worse now. I've been around the city since Covid (not too often mind) and have noticed more gimps about than previously. Maybe I'm just more aware after all the talk about it in different sources and it just seems to be more around. The dodgy spots seem to be more and more nowadays too.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,623 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    Personally don't think it is worse or better. Still plenty of things to be fixed in city centre but some of the stuff at the moment is certainly over the top



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  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭TheHouseIRL


    I'd have thought with all the traffic congestion providing passive surveillance that Dublin city centre would be one of the safest places on earth



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