How to approach teacher about my brother's non-uniform coat being seized?

magicbastarder

it's not clear from the OP (or maybe i missed it) whether the coat was taken from him in the course of cycling on the school grounds, or subsequent to him having arrived and locked his bike, etc.

if he was stopped while still cycling, that'd be farcical.

KaneToad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117927463#Comment_117927463

Breaking the rules of the school.

magicbastarder

i once found myself in a more farcical but vaguely related situation; i was the first person in our school to start wearing a bike helmet (early 90s). in german class one day one of the other guys managed to get it out of my bag without me noticing and put it on; the teacher confiscated it from him so i went up at the end of class to retrieve it and she refused to give it to me. 'you know the rules say you're not allowed bring a bicycle helmet into class' (absolute tosh; she had clearly realised she'd fucked up by not giving it back to me so trotted that out). so i ended up cycling home without it, and when i got home my mother hit the **** roof and i was able to pick it up the following morning.

growleaves

I'm sure the Guards will be happy to take that phone call.

They'll frogmarch the principal away in handcuffs I expect. CAB will seize the jacket.

Sardonicat

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117927137#Comment_117927137

Firstly, he is not a kid, he is an adult.

Secondly, it's not a simple rule. It's a stupid, pointless rule. Rules in life exist to maintain peace, safety and law and order. Wearing a reflective jacket is a matter of safety.

Utterly ridiculous rules in this country regarding uniforms. Teachers going around school corridors asking boys/young men to raise the hem of their trousers to check what colour sock they are wearing. That is nothing more than a power trip and teaches nothing. Have a dress code by all means but enforcing these ridiculous uniform requirements on young adults is nonsensical. This guy is 18 - presumably by this time next here he will be attending third level where he can show up for lectures in whatever state of dress and standard of grooming he wants. Why is it so important now he must dress as he's told?

HildaOgdenx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117927324#Comment_117927324

Best suggestion so far. 😂

HildaOgdenx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117927179#Comment_117927179

The OP's brother does seem particularly unfortunate 😉.

FishOnABike

I suggest your brother should ensure he strictly complies with school policy regarding not wearing a non school coat on school premesis in future.

The most effective way to do this is to carefully stop his bike as he approaches the threshold of the school property, wave politely in acknowledgement to the traffic waiting patiently behind him while he carefully dismounts his bicycle, removes his reflective coat, folds it neatly, puts it safely out of sight inside his bag, remounts his bicycle, gives a friendly wave to acknowledge the line of traffic waiting paitently behind him and continue on his way to store his bike.

Obviously he will need to repeat this in reverse on the journey home.

I'm sure the school would appreciate his strict observance of the rule.

_Brian

holy god get one of your parents to lift the phone and ring the school, they are in Sweden not on Mars.

there are plenty of ultra light weight reflective cycling jackets that could be worn over his uniform and then stuffed in a bag when he arrives.

there’s always a way to conform to the rules if there is a desire to follow rules similarly those against rules always find a way not to

seamus

Jaysus what a debate.

He's 18, he walks into the office and says, "Give me my jacket back". If they refuse and ask for his parents, he says he's going to file a Garda report for theft. Gardai might go up to the school and tell the principal to cop the fvck on.

He is an adult, there is no obligation to involve his parents. And private institutions are not permitted to seize private property regardless of what policies may or may not exist.

Ash.J.Williams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117927699#Comment_117927699

i hate this,....everyone giving advice and then we find out they''re spoofers .....seriously who gives a hoot about an 18 yo brother

Tork

OP is the next Mr Fegelian.

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117927762#Comment_117927762

Et tu seamus?

What planet are people here living on? Genuine question.

I guarantee you no guard is going to any school or saying anything to a principal or teacher. You mad person.

Ring the Garda station to report a 'theft' for the lulz. Report back here what happens so we can share in the lulz.

Peregrinus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117927793#Comment_117927793

You should consider the possibility that the OP may in fact be the last Mr Fegelein.

seamus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117927815#Comment_117927815

I see you've never actually reported a crime to the Gardai. They have an obligation to accept, record & investigate all potential crimes reported to them. They're not going to laugh and tell them to go away. The seizure of private property by someone who is not the owner, is the very definition of theft.

Any road, it's more of threat than a useful way of getting the jacket back. The hope is that the school will cop on before it gets to that point.

HildaOgdenx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117927816#Comment_117927816

This exact thread was certainly around before.

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117927834#Comment_117927834

Well I've no idea how they would handle an investigation on behalf of an 18 year old they would regard as a piss-taker. I'm guessing there would be lulz aplenty.

Sunny Disposition

Mad stuff from the school. Can kind of understanding taking the jacket, but only until the end of the day, anything beyond that is excessive and very dubious legally. It is theft, although there's no way the Guards are going to get involved, obviously.

whisky_galore

Why did he hand over the coat? I'd have told the teacher to get fcuked.

Fcukin busybody jobsworth.

maestroamado

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117927889#Comment_117927889

The offer might be accepted... that happened in UK... jail time....

Lillyfae

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117927793#Comment_117927793

Mrs Fegelian! Congratulations 😍

I wouldn't hand it over.

Usually when your in sixth year the school's ease the rules on that type of thing, same with dossing, writing notes home, phone use etc.

Still common courtesy obviously to obey the rules but wouldn't be handing anything over.

ebbsy

Follow the school rules perhaps ?

That would be a help.

eggy81

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117927384#Comment_117927384

So he should cycle to school with a duvet on.

spaceHopper

This is like a guy having right of way on a road but still driving into an accident instead of avoiding it because they have right of way. Been correct do not always make you right.

Email the principle this link https://www.rsa.ie/Utility/News/Photo-Gallery/20131/National-Be-Safe-Be-Seen/ 

Tell them your father bought your brother the coat so that he would be safe on the bike. It is to returned or you to the Guards and publicly shame them for taking it. They aren't going to receive an apology and he should be allowed to store the coat in school and change into it. 

Don't even entertain them

Fandymo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117927834#Comment_117927834

Next time you see someone having their car seized for no tax, remember to tell them to report the Gardai for theft. It's the very definition apparently.

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117928140#Comment_117928140

How would you publicly shame them ?

An advert in the Sunday papers ?

spaceHopper

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117928256#Comment_117928256

How many schools don't have a twitter page which is followed by a fair few of the parents, how many of the pupils in the school wouldn't share it. Ireland is a small country very quickly it would gain traction. All she's have to do is even tweet it at Amon Ryan and the head of the RSA tag the school in it.

TheValeyard

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117925692#Comment_117925692

Some people on here..... Jesus.

MarkR

Did he keep the beard?