MG electric models

reubenreuben · 02-09-2021 7:32pm #1

Hi,

anyone experience of these in particular the ZS model?

BuzzFish · 06-09-2021 1:22pm

I have a ZS. What ye wondering about?

reubenreuben · 06-09-2021 5:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117853756#Comment_117853756

Thanks. I'm looking for a fairly reasonably priced electric car. Is it a good car?

Grumpypants · 06-09-2021 7:56pm

I saw one in real life over the weekend. It's way nicer in the flesh than on the website.

Not sure how they did that 😂

eagerv · 06-09-2021 8:06pm

Saw the estate at Kilcullen charging last week. Taxi. Looked well in a nice Blue.

beardo81 · 07-09-2021 2:34pm

Very little talk of the ZS Electric on this forum. Considering it is probably the lowest priced mid-size SUV electric on the market, that is a little strange imo.

I know there are a lot more VW's and Kia's etc. sold but would be nice to see some owner of the MG electrics on here too!

Any owners want to give a quick review or rundown on their overall experiences?

k123456 · 07-09-2021 5:12pm

Very good value EV, but from what Ive read elsewhere , rust proofing not up to scaratch, under underside of body

Patser · 07-09-2021 5:20pm

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-mg-cyberster-ev-sports-car-enter-production

This please!!

Entering production, right hand promised - keep yhe price below €30,000 and I'm in😁😀😄

Grumpypants · 07-09-2021 5:29pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117859596#Comment_117859596

I saw that as well and it put me off. But doing some follow up it appears to all stem from one video and it isn't clear if it is really an MG. Loads of MG owners on forum said they have no issues.

Grumpypants · 07-09-2021 5:39pm

This guy gives his impressions after having it for 9 months. Seems to generally like it. Nice comfortable drive and range around what they claim.

Few small build issues as expected and the infotainment unit is shoddy (but apparently this just got an update).

https://youtu.be/IhhrCKqr7g4

ba_barabus · 07-09-2021 5:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117859668#Comment_117859668

There's several owners out there who have had issues and posted videos and images. The owners pages for the new MGs are very biased.

Bigger issues though are that in the UK dealers have a lot of issues sorting minor issues but issues which can disable the cars. Tends to be software related but support from MG is poor.

They didn't do well in comparison to other electric vehicles in a reliability index about 6 months ago, but if you compare the result to all cars regardless of fuel type they were pretty good.

UK experience tends to depend on how good the dealership is. Credible importer here will hopefully help.

Grumpypants · 08-09-2021 7:21pm

Just adding this link as the pictures are incredible. 60 of them showing it in great detail.

https://www.usedcarsni.com/2021-MG-ZS-105kW-Exclusive-EV-45kWh-5dr-Auto-289838038?keywords=&make=17&model=8316&fuel_type=13&trans_type=0&age_from=0&age_to=0&price_from=0&price_to=0&user_type=0&body_style=0&keywords=&location%5B%5D=0&location%5B%5D=0&homepage_search_attr=1&tab_id=0&search_type=1

DaveHumphreys · 08-09-2021 7:29pm

I had a ZS on test and found it generally pretty good. It was surprisingly efficient for its size and shape and I think for the average buyer looking for 'an electric SUV', this isn't bad value, especially if you're aren't too fussed about style/image/what the badge on the front says. Speaking of which, I did find the charge port a bit annoying to use at a rapid charger as you have to hunker down a bit to see in to where it is - it would be handy if MG added a light there. Those with limited mobility mightn't appreciate this aspect. It did work well on the 50kW DC charger, and was consistent when recharging from 5% up to 80% so no issues there.

The interior is fine, build quality is ok too. I found the infotainment display to be pretty poor to use but having Apple CarPlay was a way around it (for me anyway). Happy to answer any other questions about it.

Grumpypants · 08-09-2021 10:58pm

I've never used carplay or android auto. But is it pretty much just your phone takes over the screen? And you get a few car friendly apps to use.

SteM · 09-09-2021 9:45am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117866090#Comment_117866090

Yeah, plug the phone into the USB port and Android Auto automatically takes over the screen. From there you can use 'OK Google' commands, phone calls, Spotify, Google Maps or Waze etc. It's a handy feature imo.

ba_barabus · 09-09-2021 2:29pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117865268#Comment_117865268

Hi Dave, whats the realistic range on it in a mix of urban, motorway and main road driving?

Grumpypants · 09-09-2021 3:04pm

Bjorn Nyland did a range test in it. Seems like about 260 is accurate if you average at about 90km/h. Motorway at a full 120km/h brought it down to around 170km. I reckon if you split the difference you wouldn't be far off 220.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Slp7yyYqR0

celtic_oz · 11-09-2021 8:36am

Irish review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BKFKgNopQA

BuzzFish · 24-09-2021 4:12pm

I think the best place to see opinions is on the EV owners FB. I have my ZS (exclusive model) for a year now exactly (just renewed the tax!) and love it. Range is great and I see no issues underbody as mentioned above. Mine was back to the garage twice (for the same issue!) but that has been resolved now and the service from the dealer was second to none... which was great considering I bought the car in the UK. Issue was with a loom but I've not seen any evidence online that this is common and could find noone else having the same issue when asking on forums. These things happen I guess but so long as the service is good, happy days.

Car has about 20k on it from me, which is decent considering the lockdowns. Used as a daily run about with a small child (creche runs and the likes) and the space inside is great. Split level boot is great as it can be left raised day to day to save the back. Good sized boot meakes our tris across the country no hassle and the latest BMS updates allow for some really great charging speeds. Get the full 50 from the ESB and up to 80KW on IONITY. Naas to Midleton in Cork requires just 15-20 mins in Cashel when driving motorway spped limit of 120. I'm not into this eco driving as I'm happier just to take a break, strectch the legs and let the little lads out of his seat for a while.

Car range last winter was about 200 give or take a little and in summer has been 220-230 for me. All depends on the driving style but I'm getting 19kwh/100km without consiously trying to "eco drive". I'm sure 17-18 would be easilyu possible with a little effort.

Car is standing up to Irish roads well. No creaking or rattling and the bodywork is remaining tight. The power is fantastic and considering it has an axel rear suspension setup it feel quite planted. The low center of gravity certainly helps.

Little niggles.... the main headlights are awful as stock. I immediatly swapped for LEDs. Antroid Auto was a pain to get working until I recently changed by phone. Seems to be a little hit and miss for most folks, and USB debugging has to be turned on for it to work it seems. MG Pilot is great but the lane keeping can be a little jerky making it a little unconfortable for pasengers at times (who may thing you can't steer smoothly!). All the safty stuff is top notice and its not slow to alert if the person in front brakes suddently or someone steps out, fron or rear.

Would I buy one again... Yes! Would I buy one again at the Irish prices... Yes! There is really nothing that touches the MG in terms of bang for your buck and while it is cheap, the dealer service and the warranty certainly lessen my worries about owning an MG over the years to come.

I'll be interested in the upcoming long range version (worst kept secret but its coming!) and may be tempted to flip into one... just to give that extra level of comfort. Its always nice to have some range left over when you arrive at your destination :-)

Ubbquittious · 24-09-2021 4:19pm

Seen one of these around recently. But wouldn't buy one, the Chinese can feck off, they have enough of our money

Grumpypants · 24-09-2021 4:33pm

I've been keeping track of my mileage to see how far the range on this MG ZS would get me. Normal day to day. Drop kids to school, fly to the shops, head to Aldi, playground etc.etc.

After 12 days I've only done 130 miles. At that rate it would only need to charge once a fortnight. Once I'm back to the office it would add 70 miles to the weekly tally so I'd need to charge once a week at that point. But I could then use the free work charger so even cheaper !!

There is little to no chance of getting a low spec / sub 40k ID4 or Ioniq 5 for the next year.

I've yet to see a bad review of this car. Every complaint seems to have been around the infotainment and the amount of bongs. Both of which seemed to get addressed with updates.

k123456 · 24-09-2021 6:01pm

Buzzfish, excellent review and thanks for posting

ba_barabus · 24-09-2021 11:26pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117934274#Comment_117934274

Great to hear that. That range isn't too bad. When is the extended range car coming? That's passed me by

Grumpypants · 25-09-2021 7:52am

Heard next year for the extended range. But nothing official.

ba_barabus · 25-09-2021 11:17am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117936413#Comment_117936413

That's great. It's a pity they're not doing the MG5 facelift in RHD

stesaurus · 25-09-2021 2:17pm

I would have been one of the first in the country with the ZS. After 18 months I'd still rate it as a great buy and at the price I imported especially.

Lane assist, adaptive cruise control all work really well and can be turned on/off as needed. Range is fine considering the size and shape. 200km summer and 170 winter is fairly realistic with how I drive.

I've just agreed a trade to move on. It will be a while but zero regrets with the MG and would be happy to return to the brand if they offer something really interesting in future.

beardo81 · 26-09-2021 9:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117937770#Comment_117937770

Trading up to something with more range? How did you fare on trade in financially of you don't mind me asking?

stesaurus · 26-09-2021 9:41pm

Moving to an i4, not for the range. Just wanted something different and have wanted a proper electric BMW since my i3.

stesaurus · 26-09-2021 9:44pm

I got offered 22k for my 201 reg exclusive based on trade in next April.

I'll probably look at shifting it privately closer to the time and changing the deal. Too far out to know if I have a crap deal or not.

Grumpypants · 28-09-2021 10:29am

That's a good 10k lost in 2 years. I know new cars do lose a good chunk fast but i am surprised at that. I'd say if the ID4s weren't selling themselves they might have given you a bit more. But you can't get one of those until after easter there is such demand.

stesaurus · 28-09-2021 1:37pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117948942#Comment_117948942

Not buying a VW ID4, getting a BMW i4. The delay isn't down to demand but moreso production delays Also I won't be losing €10k, I imported the MG myself before they were available here so paid considerably less

zg3409 · 28-09-2021 5:40pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117858910#Comment_117858910

Part of the reason of little talk was there was no ROI dealers at launch. They don't seem to have changed or solved charge port door even though many reviews say it is fiddly, particularly for nightly charging. If it hinged down it would be ok.

Bigger battery models will solve main issue, short range, range would not be as big an issue if the public charging network was better, but based on EV sales and number of public chargers coming soon, public charging any EV on long distance trips may require queuing at peak times. It's probably ideal for school runs and shorter commutes. In terms of depreciation typically it's 20% for year one and 10% for all other years, but it really depends on supply and demand when you go to sell, with possibly smaller battery EVs in less demand for average person looking to buy and 1 or 2 year old EV.

Grumpypants · 28-09-2021 6:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117949830#Comment_117949830

Ah misread that. Was so used to looking at ID4s.

It's still 10k under the RRP of a new one. Gives others an idea of how much it will drop.

But in saying that if I was to get one and a long range one came out I'd go back to MG so they might give a better offer.

BuzzFish · 29-09-2021 12:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117948942#Comment_117948942

I think they issue is that those of us who bought in the UK got great deals. I had mine, 6 months and 1 day old when collected (avoiding VAT) for €25k cleared (including transport etc). I've "lost" 3k going by the numbers in 14 months but running costs have eating into that I'm down much less. I think thats great decpeciation on a 20month old car.

BuzzFish · 29-09-2021 12:40pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117934351#Comment_117934351

The bongs were sorted with a software upgrade called "comfort 2" which mine had on collection over a year ago. Infotainment can be slow and apparently there is a recent update for that but to be honest I just use Android Auto all the time and that flies along.

listermint · 29-09-2021 12:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117953988#Comment_117953988

Prob remove half that 'loss,' on running cost. Cheap motoring for that length of time all things considered.

Grumpypants · 07-10-2021 1:25pm

Looks like the extended range (plus face lift) will be here in November-ish

New infotainment unit, new charging flap on the front are prob the big two complaints sorted out.

Two new longer range options. A 273 mile range (up from 163), so a decent jump. That looks to be around €35k in Europe. And also a cheaper €30k 199 mile option which is still good for most users.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/updated-mg-zs-ev-gets-273-mile-range-and-new-look

AMKC · 07-10-2021 4:15pm

New MG Marvel R to come to Europe no idea if it will come here or to the UK yet.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-mg-marvel-r-ev-brings-250-mile-range-%C2%A334000

I think it's a bit bland like a Cheap Ford Kuga and that is bland unless it has some chrome on it and the chrome grill on it. The interior on this new MG is nice do.

beardo81 · 07-10-2021 5:15pm

That's a nice refresh for the ZS EV, if they can keep the competitive pricing they could be onto a winner there.

slave1 · 07-10-2021 6:32pm

Looks like a Niro at a quick glance

Grumpypants · 07-10-2021 10:21pm

https://mgmotor.eu/configurator/zs-ev

https://mgmotor.eu/model/zs-ev

First shows different specs, second page has a video That shows much more.

Two editions, luxury and comfort.

Loads of tech added. Wireless phone charger, 360 camera, voice commands, phone app, digital speedometer, road sign recognition.

And you can plug an extension cord into it and run normal appliances from it. If you need to charge something.

Grumpypants · 07-10-2021 11:13pm

https://youtu.be/tcogMsWuLaQ

Autumn Showcase from MG. Doesn't show much more. But confirms the 72kwh model will be available from the end of this month for under €35k.

listermint · 07-10-2021 11:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117989377#Comment_117989377

Looks good to me. Wrong colour choice though on that ad. Doesn't do it justice tbh

AMKC · 08-10-2021 8:46am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117991142#Comment_117991142

You should see it in white so it looks worse in white. Auto Express had it in white pics.

I never said it looked bad just a bit dull.

Miscreant · 11-10-2021 7:59am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117991104#Comment_117991104

If MG Ireland can deliver either the Marvel or the ZS EV (with the 70KwH batteries) for less than €35k then I will be very impressed (and surprised). The missus was admiring a ZS yesterday in Athlone but the range is an issue for us, which would be obviated by the larger battery capacity version.

The front of the revised ZS has a hint of Tesla about it but I suppose there is only so much "design" that manufacturers can do with a blunt nose. 🙂

Grumpypants · 11-10-2021 9:58am

I wonder what they will do with the existing stock. It will be hard to shift a 32K model with lower range and less features when the 35K one comes in November never mind when the €30K 200 mil one comes in early 2022.

Might get a bargain, if all it is needed for is the school trip and shop runs it could be ideal.

listermint · 11-10-2021 5:29pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118003185#Comment_118003185

Marvel is not coming to Ireland and may not be in right hand drive at all. Confirmed with MG Ireland. Which sucks as it's a nice looking box. So ZS is the runner up prize.

listermint · 11-10-2021 5:30pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118003630#Comment_118003630

That seems to be why they are offering 1.9 percent APR on them which is possibly the lowest offer out there for any large type EV. I think only Renault Zoe beats that rate. The rest are standard loan rates 7.9 percent.