Mayo GAA Discussion

Audioslaven

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123482178#Comment_123482178

100%, flat out on a hospital bed brings a complete sense of what is important and what is BS. Irrespective of the opinions in terms of Mayo, I hope he gets back well.

Westernview

Still no statement/post from the county board on Kevin. Would have thought they would have put up something, even just a general good wishes and in our thoughts type message. Hope he's doing OK.

MacDanger

Hope Kevin recovers okay, much more important than football.

Not unexpected but the ladies were well beaten in the connacht final today

naughto

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123485385#Comment_123485385

The sideline is the problem there with so many not playing this yr,should not have got it in the 1st place.

Westernview

Statements have been released by the County board and Kevin MCStay. He is stepping away for the foreseeable future. Rochford to take over the team

SqueakyKneecap

Wishing Kevin a swift recovery

hugeorange

Hope Kevin recovers quickly.

Westernview

Maurice Brosnan is relaying stuff from the county board meeting with Jarlath Burns and Tom Ryan. Some strange story about 5 mayo players living in Dublin.

https://x.com/m_brosnan

hugeorange

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123488601#Comment_123488601

Any screenshots for those of us not using that app?

I saw some statement from the press release pertaining to what sounds like a campaign of harrassment against a number of adults? All sounds very weird and sinister.

TsuDhoNimh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123488836#Comment_123488836

The most complete coverage I've seen specifically around the emails end of things.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/mayo-and-jarlath-burns-condemn-toxic-online-campaign-aimed-at-county-board/a1780821768.html

Westernview

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123488836#Comment_123488836

This is the bit on the players. Ewan MacKenna has weighed in and says they were living in a warehouse owned by Noel Howley.

For Forks Sake

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123488836#Comment_123488836

Detail of all items covered in his article

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41639860.html

hugeorange

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123488982#Comment_123488982

Was McKenna the one who reported it? It's a bit crazy for a third party to involve themselves in a matter like that, it really doesn't have anything to do with anyone else. Equally, not a good living situation from the sounds of it, though I've heard of all kinds during my days in Dublin.

Westernview

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123489026#Comment_123489026

I don't know who raised it but MacKenna seems to be devoting a lot of time to this story. Someone is really out to get the board. I feel sorry for them as they seem to be doing their best. I don't think they are corrupt at all. People want the manager gone and others want the board gone. I don't know if anyone will want to do these jobs on the future. It's not good for football or the county.

mjp

Maybe not the existing board but there is enough evidence there from o Leary's forensic accountant review that old execs from board were profiting from their role. Doing their best is being very kind to them when you consider that county so big doesnt even have a training base for co teams and James horam rightly called out the poor infrastructure on examiner podcast last week.

Going back to co board & transparency whilst the move to cashless entry for games is a pain and especially for the elderly the one thing it brings is gives a paper trail for all money entering the co. Board coffees which was not the case historically in the past

spakman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123489110#Comment_123489110

It's obviously Tim O'Leary who is behind all of this. But someone (or more than one) with knowledge of county dealings is supplying him with the info.

Like most people, I'd have concerns about how some aspects of the board's business is run - how we still have no proper training facilities, our woeful levels of fundraising to name a couple.

But let nobody think O'Leary is doing any of this in the best interests of Mayo football - its pure vengeance.

Why would he bother reporting the 5 players living in Howley's building? How would that benefit anyone?

It's just another instance of him trying to make life as difficult as he can for those he's harassing.

He's a malignant presence.

MacDanger

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123489138#Comment_123489138

I'd mostly agree with your take on it there.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123489001#Comment_123489001

A couple of things that stand out for me in that - are the stories about the accommodation really relevant to what was being discussed? Or just thrown in to garner sympathy for the CB? I think most people can agree that O'Leary is a clown and that sort of behaviour does him no good.

On the loan writedowns: "I just want to reassure people that Central Council did not make a profit on this exercise. The project included a large number of units and numerous banks, whatever write offs or discounts achieved within that exercise were kept fully within the project and applied fully, 100%, to every unit. No capital surplus was retained by Croke Park"

So it seems like the write down on the Mayo loan was not specifically applied to the Mayo loan and instead was applied across all loans that were in that "project"; it sounds like Mayo received a 20% reduction rather than the 50% that was actually received from the bank. Now obviously Mayo GAA were the ones responsible for the loan and the cock-up that was made of the whole project so it's questionable whether they deserved any more of a write down than that? It would be interesting to know who/what were the other loans in the "project" who did received the write down?

It sounds like some of the other allegations around income in earlier years went unanswered (or at least unreported)

In general terms, with so much money floating around county teams in the GAA, I think HQ need to impose a framework for the correct operation of county boards rather than having it run by elected individuals who may be more or less capable depending on the county / year

Barlett

Completely agree with all that, I just don’t know how we ended up with a stand that appears to one of the most expensive in the country, yet bears more resemblance to something from the 1970s than anything from the modern era and with the blue seats, holds absolutely no connection to the county team.

By the time the loan is paid off, it’ll need to be upgraded again.

hugeorange

Not sure I'd go so far as to say I think the County Board are doing their best or that I've a tremendous amount of sympathy for those in higher positions being criticised. But O'Leary is a vindictive man and a campaign of harrassment doesn't help any case against the CB, who certainly have questions to answer. On the players' living situation, it doesn't sound good and it seems like someone close to home was profiting from it in the style of a slumlord, but going to DCC and having them evicted seems very intentionally destructive and doesn't harm anyone except young players who I'm sure are struggling to get by with housing being what it is in Dublin.

spakman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123490105#Comment_123490105

I doubt anyone was profiting from the players living arrangement. On the contrary, I'd say the accommodation was made available to them for very little, if anything.

The owner of the property is a long time financial supporter.

westsidestory

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123490105#Comment_123490105

That's a fairly imaginative take on the living arrangements, know personally how the owner of the property has taken very good care of at least one ex Mayo player in the past and made his time studying in Dublin a lot easier.

hugeorange

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123490407#Comment_123490407

How is it imaginative? It's exactly the case with many young people in Dublin today in a very exploitative rental market.

westsidestory

"On the players' living situation, it doesn't sound good and it seems like someone close to home was profiting from it in the style of a slumlord"

Bit overly dramatic.

MacDanger

I don't get the impression that anyone was profiting from the accommodation, otherwise that's what the allegation would be rather than the planning illegality of it