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Dun Laoghaire Thread. No traffic, commuting, transport chat.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,240 ✭✭✭Mav11


    It looks like an engine with a PTO, kind of a shaft to the right hand side. Anything could have been attached to that shaft but yes, most probably a boat winch.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,283 ✭✭✭fixXxer


    Got a nice shot of the Casement statue in the moonlight last week.



  • Registered Users Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Gareth Keenan




  • Registered Users Posts: 23,367 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    A boat winch. You’ll see them by most slips.


    Here are the ones at Bullach and Colimore



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,354 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    The old Zurich offices on Frascati Road in Blackrock is going to be refurbished and put on the market for €11 million as per the IT.




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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,564 ✭✭✭frash


    Might be better as apartments - who needs a 6 floor office HQ these days with most places offering some form of working from home?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,240 ✭✭✭Mav11



    Seems to be a few objections to Bakers Corner, including an Taisce.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,749 ✭✭✭crushproof


    A flight hazard for birds? They really do pull anything out the hat when it comes to objections. I didn't realise birds were driven to extinction by apartment blocks in every other city around the world.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,876 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    None of those objections hold much water in a planning context. DLR may condition a few design changes to soften up the curtilage, but I'd expect it to be granted more or less as is.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭patrickbrophy18


    While I don't object to the idea of student accommodation on the Bakers Corner site or a building of the same size there, I don't think demolishing the actual pub building itself should be carried out. You could curtail some of the structure and build around it so that the corner remains recognizable. The existing structure is one of very few decent looking buildings in a 200 meter radius (as a rule of thumb). I say that because the bulk of the residential stock within this radius are former council houses with the same dreary crude grey pebble-dash facade.

    The proposed complex is the same boxy, clinical and featureless affair as is the case with many of the other unimaginative cookie-cutter apartments that have been built or are under construction. Not enough effort is being made in giving modern builds redeeming elegant features. In other words, I would much rather be looking at a facsimile of an old and elegant design than a modern take on brutalist architecture.

    Case in point is the previous planning application on the land adjacent to The Golden Ball Pub in Kilternan where it was going to recreate the look of a timeless London Mayfair style street scape:

    It was subsequently refused permision because it was too fusy among other begrudgery driven motives. Instead, we have allowed more mediocre buildings to be built in the same location (see it in Street View):

    184 Enniskerry Rd

    Back to the Bakers Corner site. Now, by and large, the road infrastructure in the vicinity is somewhat decent where minor tweaks could be made to optimise the flow of traffic.

    I still think much of the oposition to the Bakers Corner is steeped in zealotry where they don't want anything built next to them at all. I just think the architecture of new builds could do with being far more graceful.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,240 ✭✭✭Mav11


    I don't think demolishing the actual pub building itself should be carried out.

    I also think that ideally, the pub should remain. On the odd occasion that I have gone in there, it seems to be used by locals and students as a bit of a social hub.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,876 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    It used to be a nice local. But since the most recent change of ownership it's a kip pretty much.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,240 ✭✭✭Mav11


    Wouldn't be my cup of tea either, but I can see that it does satisfy a local need.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,876 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I agree. There is a new public bar in the plan.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,240 ✭✭✭Mav11


    Is there nothing sacred?

    I couldn't count the number of last minute children's birthday presents that I got here, before dropping the smallies into Bam Bam's for the party with Plexi😁😁.

    Nice to see that the plan is to incorporate Nimbles into the proposed development.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/commercial-property/iconic-stillorgan-toy-shop-reaches-for-the-sky-with-plans-for-new-generation-1.4726832



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,354 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    Is the new cinema along with the new gym being built in Stillorgan for the apartment residents only?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,240 ✭✭✭Mav11


    I would think so. I would imagine that the proposed "cinema" in the apartment complex is no more than a room with a big screen that residents can cast their own films to!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,876 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I've worked on a few D4 luxury schemes with very nice cinema rooms in them. You can usually book them through the concierge for a private party or a business meeting that requires a screening. They are basically just networked screens as opposed to digital projection, but they seat about 30 and are a nice luxury. The place Rod Stewart has just bought his new penthouse near Lansdowne Road has one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,240 ✭✭✭Mav11




  • Registered Users Posts: 23,876 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Who knows. My brother in law had something similar in Singapore and it was very well frequented, but then they are big drinkers!

    I see DLR has recommended to An BP to refuse the Bakers Corner plans on the basis of bulk, mass, out of character, effect on adjoining properties etc. Will be interesting to see what way it goes, as I can certainly think of other schemes in the DLR area, especially near the Stillorgan Road that have a similar presence.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,354 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    Are private cinemas placed in apartment buildings more commonplace in well off areas of Dublin than as opposed to the rest of the country?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,240 ✭✭✭Mav11


    Re. Bakers corner, yes it will be very interesting to see ABP's approach. I think that one of the main planning arguments for mass and bulk on the Stillorgan Rd. was that the road itself, is a main public transport route. Hence good access to same.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,240 ✭✭✭Mav11


    I don't know about the prevalence of such features in other parts of the country but it seems that by adding gyms, cinemas etc. to the planning application and for subsequent marketing, it presents the development as a "lifestyle community" as opposed to just another apartment development. All very wholesome!!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,876 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,749 ✭✭✭crushproof


    Daft logic from the council, the site doesn't overlook any homes and buffered by wide roads, a car park and church grounds. It's absolutely ridiculous that a well located site like this isn't deemed suitable for a 6 floor development, in which most residents would be walking, cycling or taking the bus. And don't start me on Boyd Barrett's objections to it! Hopefully ABP tell them all to get stuffed.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,240 ✭✭✭Mav11


    Any idea when the Christmas lights are going up/on? Was on Georges st. on Sunday evening, it looked a bit grim without the lights!



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,876 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Usually this weekend coming, 4 weeks to Christmas.

    Plenty time enough.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,240 ✭✭✭Mav11


    Could do with a bit of cheer!



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,240 ✭✭✭Mav11



    It will be interesting to see if county development plans or protected structure designation carry any weight at all. IMO this application is trying to take the piss out of both!

    https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/heritage/build-to-rent-plans-for-d%C3%BAn-laoghaire-yellow-brick-house-1.4747370



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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,262 ✭✭✭markpb


    That is comically bad looking! It doesn't look like the site is so constrained that they couldn't have planned for something around the house but not incorporating it directly. I'm not suggesting that they copy VHI directly but their work on Abbey St is very imaginative: https://goo.gl/maps/H5NAvB9qNXLohAXx7



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