Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

_Kaiser_

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118395148#Comment_118395148

The problem with a(nother) lockdown this time is that the word is out on Omicron. With so many "infected" and with little to no real symptoms, the realisation is out there that it's little more than a cold for the vast majority. Remember those? Remember how we just stocked up on Lemsip and tissues for a few days and got on with it? It's back! :)

What Holohan is at is akin to that end scene in Team America where Alec Baldwin splutters meaningless buzzwords to a room that is already lost.

deholleboom

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118395177#Comment_118395177

Usually the non symptomatic ARE the non infectious. No significant viral load to spread..

nullzero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118395197#Comment_118395197

I agree wholeheartedly. I just fear the way he and the people around him think about situations like this is so ingrained that there is an air of inevitability about how things will proceed. I'll happily be proven wrong however.

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118395163#Comment_118395163

Let's also not forget the push back on Boosters for Health care staff last September 😳

They really do make this up as they go, some have said it's because the pandemic evolves, I say , nonsense , there's been so many U Turns, tweaking, changing of rules, guidence etc at this stage it's hard to believe anything these so called experts say . It's all about suited the current Narrative, NO PCR availability, Let's push Antigen etc etc etc

Wolf359f

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118395208#Comment_118395208

So what ever happened to the asymptomatic spread?

TracyMartell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118395178#Comment_118395178

There’s 4/5 accounts on r/Ireland that I’m convinced are run by only 1/2 people. They’re first on every post and downvote opinions they don’t agree with straight away

Floppybits

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118395242#Comment_118395242

There have been a fair few of them from masks, to snake oil antigen tests, wild data models, frontline workers (gardai, etc) and carers not vaccinated first. The list goes on. Not sure who to blame on the not lifting of restrictions in the summer and waiting till winter to lift them?

cannonballTaffyOjones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118395274#Comment_118395274

It's suspicious , one account had posts all over the shop complaining about people not wearing masks in general - one in a park in Los Angeles for gods sake!!

Anyway, the moment I posted something to the effect of 2 year olds shouldn't be wearing masks - he replied ... in fairness not abusive, but saying basically that because people including kids haven't been masked up is the reason we are still in this ....

bot ?

lawred2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118394973#Comment_118394973

There's a bang of moralism and judgementalism off NPHET and the CMO in general. I don't for a second believe that his recommendations are purely motivated by concerns for the nation's health or concerns for the health service.

Richard Hillman

Holohan is a public health "expert". Chief Nanny Statist. He has a natural distrust of the general public. His college course probably moulded him that way. Do not trust the public. They do not know what's good for them. We will tell them what's good for them.

TracyMartell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118395290#Comment_118395290

Unlikely to be a bot. More likely to be a person with far too much time on their hands!

_Kaiser_

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118395296#Comment_118395296

We know how he feels about alcohol for example. We've seen how he reacts in press interviews to questions he doesn't like. Then there was his infamous return early from leave when he bounced the entire country into level 5 restrictions, contradicting the more moderate Glynn's advice.

He's definitely not objective.

completedit

Holohan absolutely represents the personification of the state as a 'manager'. I don't care about him, he has his point of view which is fair enough but the genuflection towards him is what irks me. I will never vote in an Irish election again, Varadkar was the only one who at times seemed to show a semblance of being able to assess the trade-offs of continued restrictions but he eventually stepped in line.

completedit

AlekSmart

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118395296#Comment_118395296

Blatently Obvious too.

Right from the get-go Dr Holohan recognised the benefits accruing from a Public Health Emergency.

And so,it came to pass that Sec 31(A) of the 1947 Health Acts provided him and a small coterie of staff,fellow travellers,and serial promotionalists to impose some of the broadest suspensions of basic human rights ever seen in modern times.

We are so lucky that in Ireland we do not have a Gendarmerie style Police Force (a choice so elequently expressed by Micheal McDowell as Minister for Justice) because this CMO would,most likely,have had trucks full of non-compliers swept away to the Blaskets.

It is abundantly clear that the CMO is fast being outmanouvered by the very "Science" he has used so effectively to impose HIS will on both Government & People for almost 2 years.

Omicron,behaving in the way that Viruses have done since the beginning of Life itself,has shown his,and the rest of the Western World's attitude to be composed of Mirrors,Coloured Smoke and Snake Oil,almost none of which achieved much more than the mass dispensing of Vit D tablets and closer attention to widely available pre-existing medications would have done.

The Game's afoot Watson... 🧐 !

AlekSmart

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118394919#Comment_118394919

The great unanswered (and unasked) question which sits there in plain sight,just waiting for a brave Investigative Journalist to direct their attention to.

Tick...Tock.......💥

Floppybits

People asking where are the government, for what? The thing is who is actually listening to them at this stage. Better off they stay where ever they are especially that Donnelly idiot.

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118395006#Comment_118395006

I know a couple who went for tests because they were flying to the UK for the weekend, getting their tests before leaving this country to make sure they wouldn't be caught at the other side... They weren't close contacts and have no idea where they got it from so it is literally everywhere at the moment

Masks won't be ditched anytime soon, there's too much benefit from them

Richard Hillman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118395526#Comment_118395526

With the government on holidays and NPHET not meeting until 6th of January, we could get this whole situation resolved. So they can stay wherever they are and stop interfering with nature.

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118394993#Comment_118394993

Not good but to look on the bright side, if it's true then the ratio of hospitalisations to cases is lower

darem93

It's just a pity Tony can't stay away from the media for two seconds lecturing everyone about "the severe dangers" of having a NYE party.

nullzero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118395859#Comment_118395859

According to Tony Holohan those hospitalized are differing to Omicron suffers everywhere else in the world. Our response will likely differ to other jurisdictions as a result. Whilst the virus may be becoming less dangerous the measures to deal with it may remain similar to what they have been.

aidoh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118394973#Comment_118394973

Give it another week and we'll be told over and over again how we all "went mad" over the Christmas holidays, exactly like last year.

DeY ShOuLdA lOcKeD uZ dOwEn SoOnEr JoE, dE cOuNtRy WeNt MaD an all...

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118395907#Comment_118395907

Apparently the greatest excuse is "where waiting on the Data' followed by the next blaa blaa blaa is critical 🙄

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118395882#Comment_118395882

His latest suggestion is not to attend new years eve parties tonight.

I'm sure plenty of people who followed his advice last Christmas realize they were treated to the same 5km limit as those who had the big parties and blew off a bit of steam. So why would anybody bother?

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118395831#Comment_118395831

Why do you think they introduced restrictions the week before Christmas? Sure we couldn't be interrupting their holidays could we?

darem93

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118395907#Comment_118395907

Yup the public will be scolded yet again and it'll be all out fault for "going mad" (whatever that means) over Christmas. Yet of course there will be no word of the absolutely pathetic testing system - where the majority of people couldn't even book a test - and of course the ongoing shambles that is our health system.

Tony Holohan is already setting up NYE parties as the next target in a long list of scapegoats.

francogarbanzo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118395801#Comment_118395801

How do you know there’s any benefit to them whatsoever?

Zebra3

Sure the Celtic Tiger crashing was all the people’s fault.

”We all partied”. 🙄🙄

Dempo1

Donnelly has spoken 🙄

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/1231/1269250-covid-19-ireland/