Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

BuildTheWall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225115#Comment_118225115

You’d end up in ICU on a drip if you played that game.

dominatinMC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225075#Comment_118225075

Now isn't the time for political correctness or virtue signaling. Action was and is needed. We can worry about peoples feeling after, once we ascertain some more information about this new variant

PicardWithHair

Whats the story with 9 year old kids wearing masks ? in school ?

BuildTheWall

People weren’t afraid enough of the Rona anymore so the media are trotting out the latest ‘Scariant’ in an attempt to frighten people out of their wits. Within 5 minutes of this discovery, Sky News was calling it “the most dangerous, transmissible variant yet” even though there was absolutely no evidence to suggest this was the case. Why isn’t media ever taken to the task anymore? That’s the very definition of fake news!

BanditLuke

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225075#Comment_118225075

Wow, didn't think i'd see the race card being used for this. South Africa isn't a small country and it has lots of white people in case you didn't notice but don't let that stop you 🙄

ceadaoin.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225041#Comment_118225041

Vegas. I've never been to a club here tbh but I hear they're pretty good. Superstar djs and all that stuff.

Dempo1

Israel, the Outlier, about to announce a state of emergency 🤔

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225135#Comment_118225135

No doubt classified as a covid admission

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225174#Comment_118225174

Apparently not just in schools, Public Transport and shops, It's a recommendation only, Government to discuss ( Dither, Mix message, Deflect etc etc etc)

is_that_so

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225120#Comment_118225120

Not disputing their expertise but they'd be well advised to keep schtum until it is investigated a whole lot more.

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225075#Comment_118225075

South Africa hardly a small country, its not about naming and shaming countries, the WHO are expected to put a Greek name on this variant shortly, to South Africa's credit, they released their findings extremely quickly, this is literally breaking news.

Elmer Blooker

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225124#Comment_118225124

Whenever the general election comes around and one of SF or PBP frauds come near me I fear I’ll do something I’ll regret.

darconio

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225209#Comment_118225209

No race card played, but I thought we were supposed to name the variant with a letter from the greek alphabet to avoid discriminations: but again I have seen the majority need a new boogeyman every now and then to avoid focusing their narrow mind into the real issue. And the same political class will justify a new wave of restrictions hiding behind the usual "it's for your safety" and deflecting from the real problems caused by their inefficiency and mismanagement of the "crisis". Of course also the new scary variant is from Botswana: a southern african country.

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225186#Comment_118225186

That's not true. People are definitely still afraid of catching the virus. Not necessarily afraid for their lives but Christmas is coming up and people want to spend time with their loved ones who may be vulnerable. Another point is they will need to isolate for 10 days so most of the people I know are going for tests from the 15th of December and doing piss all outside of that.

After Christmas socialising looks like it will be f##king bananas though

Snooker Loopy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225186#Comment_118225186

Are you living under a rock? Nu has devoured Delta in South Africa in two weeks flat.

Dempo1

Pascal the Rascal on Claire Byrne talking Shyte as per usual, Seems Leo typically spoke too soon yesterday, oddly and strangely every time Leo opens his mouth, claims were seeing positive signs, the following day he's proven not only to have spoke too soon but look even more foolish, if that's even possible 🙄

niallo27

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118224859#Comment_118224859

Sure just stay at home and watch netflix and let the rest of us get on with our lives, its not that hard, just hide away.

zom

"Sure just stay at home and watch netflix and let the rest of us get on with our lives, its not that hard, just hide away."

You forgot to ask him do not vote any election too...

foxsake

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225333#Comment_118225333

I know what you mean but the TDs I may favour will be getting it in the neck too for their silence.

could end up voting for the monster looney independent at this rate.

bar a few independents and Aontu the challenge to the government has been shockingly poor from all parties. Labour popped up briefly and faded again.

SF are the worst, they are sitting back watching this whole mess , waiting for the government to fail without any input or alternatives being proposed. Next election we'll see lies and spin from them on their performance during covid - it's non existent which is worse (IMO) than the government fcuk up

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225397#Comment_118225397

571 people with covid-19 recorded in our hospitals at 8am this morning, down 27 on yesterday, which was down 13 from the day before and down about 20 the day before that

That man looks like a fool before he talks but there are positive signs

ceadaoin.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225389#Comment_118225389

There wasn't much there to "devour" in the first place though, it's still very low levels compared to any of their peaks, or in general

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225120#Comment_118225120

Yes, seriously. You think this will go on forever? Restrictions will ease and then disappear eventually. They might get stricter first though.

PicardWithHair

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225370#Comment_118225370

Who needs to isolate for 10 days ? is quarantine coming back ?

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225451#Comment_118225451

Leo barely mentioned hospital numbers, talked about numbers plateauing whilst in the same breath said it was too early to know, meanwhile hours later another near 5k cases.

Paschal just rambled on and basically said nothing, always amazed me, the ability of Paschal to do a 30 minute interview and say pretty much nothing, I've already forgotten what he said

foxsake

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225464#Comment_118225464

i wished I shared your optimism . we aren't seeing restrictions ease though...despite a fully vaxx'd population - our betters are proposing masking kids under 12. That is worst (and most nonsensical one yet) imo. Look I know it's not approved yet.

in the long term we are all dead - as your man JM Keynes once said - so in the short or medium term what are the options?

The vaccine isn't as great as it was initially claimed to be so unless there is a medical breakthrough maybe that new pill that was announced or the government change strategy - we will lurch into rolling lockdowns every time a wave happens or the HSE needs to cover for it's lack of facilities or the media hypes up another variant.

For how long? Who knows but certainly we never knew we'd be here 2 years later ( i know 2 years in march) .

I don't see this or vaccine passports ending soon. . sadly.

Blut2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225124#Comment_118225124

"one of the really weird things of this whole thing , is that NPHET have a public platform at all. They aren't public representatives but sadly appear to weld unholy amounts of power ."

This has been one of the biggest problems of Ireland's whole covid response. NPHET are meant to be advising the government. In private briefings.

The first time a member of NPHET decided to brief the press that they disagreed with government policy, or decided to brief the press on what policies they personally felt were needed, they should have been fired. Instead we've reached a situation where our Taoiseach and government are deathly afraid of what NPHET will say to the press, and are completely under their thumb. Which is completely backwards.

Imagine if government advisors in other areas constantly gave press briefings that contradicted government policy? Or started going public announcing new policy they were asking for, in order to pressure the government.. they wouldn't last a day. Because its impossible to govern a country that way, it hands over all power to the advisor instead of the elected representative.

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225466#Comment_118225466

If you test positive you have to self-isolate for 10 days while you recover and be symptom free for 48 hours

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225471#Comment_118225471

Daily case numbers are fairly irrelivant as the link between them and hospital numbers is too hard to calculate, if they go down then great but if they don't then don't get worried

Because of vaccination, hospital and ICU numbers are the ones to watch. Hospital numbers are showing early signs of promise while ICU was 126 yesterday, down 6 on the day before, today's don't get released until 11:30 but they probably won't start dropping until hospitals have dropped consistently for about a week or 2

Bear in mind the weekend effect as well means people don't get discharged until Monday or Tuesday so weekend hospital numbers can be misleading

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118222748#Comment_118222748

Unvaccinated pregnant women are at greatly elevated risk from covid pneumonitis compared to vaccinated pregnant women. There were concerns about safety in pregnancy which reduced uptake. These have been looked into so should give pregnant women a bit more reassurance.

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225680#Comment_118225680

I hear you , just completely bamboozled at this stage,

Just listened to Claire Byrne, interview with HSE head of vacinne roll out, unless I heard incorrectly the Pfizer Vacinne to be used for children is actually slightly different and obviously smaller does, this is surely going to raise more questions for parents.

Did I hear this correctly, it literally just slipped out during the interview.