Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

lawred2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117882082#Comment_117882082

Not really. I think we simply differ on what open means.

Anything that has its standard operations curtailed is not really open in my eyes.

I certainly wouldn't casually describe the way we are right as having "almost everything open"

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117882154#Comment_117882154

Well, that's ridiculous. There's little point in me trying to change your mind. I'll give it one go though - the purpose of a restaurant is to sell food to patrons. People can currently sit in a restaurant to eat the food that is for sale but they are restricted as to the number of people that can be at a table and they must either be vaccinated or recovered. By your logic, they're not really open? That's laughable.

lawred2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117882181#Comment_117882181

Well with current restrictions they may not be capable of covering costs.. a restaurant is a throughout business. So restrictions are a direct threat to the longevity of any such business. That's not open to me.

Nevermind the fact that the few paying customers that they do have have to provide an internal passport to even enter said premises.

bucketybuck

Remember folks, if you don't do any of the restricted things, then there are no restricted things.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117882211#Comment_117882211

And wear a mask, and socially distance, and be greeted by a mask instead of a smile. And I'm sure that yellow tape is everywhere.

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117882238#Comment_117882238

Said no one.

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117882211#Comment_117882211

A business that is open, isn't open to you. Okay.

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117882266#Comment_117882266

Inside the premises? How did you get there if it's closed? The opposite of not open is closed. Restrictions =/= closed. Lads...really.

Allinall

Everyone appear to be looking for the few negatives, when there are way more positives.

Glad I’m not in that cohort.

Richard Hillman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117882335#Comment_117882335

You need to show ID and a vaccination cert to go into McDonald's. I'm not looking at the glass half full thinking "oh wow, they are letting us into McDonald's"

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117882346#Comment_117882346

McDonald's is a shíthole anyway. Avoid.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117882295#Comment_117882295

Okay, they are open in the sense that you can walk in (as long as you show your vaccine passport and wear a mask), but they're miserable places compared with how they once were.

Imagine if you went to a party and there was no musical, no food or drink, and you could talk to one other person only. You technically went to a party, but you might as well have stayed at home. Okay, it's not exactly the same thing, but it's a useful comparison to make.

brickster69

Looks like PCR tests when coming back from holiday's will be next to get scrapped.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-sajid-javid-says-he-wants-to-ditch-pcr-tests-for-travellers-as-soon-as-i-possibly-can-12405782

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117882375#Comment_117882375

I'm not disputing that the current restrictions are a pain in the hole. My original post was addressing this comment - "...having huge parts of society still closed down." I said that almost everything is currently open. That's fact. Then people started to post bizarre stuff about open places not really being open...WTF?!

I dunno, I've eaten lunch or dinner out 5 times in the last few weeks and haven't had to show ID or the cert once. I would imagine chains like Maccers or Costa or whatever are strictly following the rules but independent places seem to be applying common sense. At least, given my limited experience. And not a bit of yellow tape in sight.

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117882356#Comment_117882356

"The restrictions won't affect you if you just don't go to those places".

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117882491#Comment_117882491

Said no one.

brickster69

Boris going the full monty on tuesday from the sound of it

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-pm-to-repeal-parts-of-coronavirus-act-that-are-no-longer-necessary-12404836?amp=1

Blut2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117881817#Comment_117881817

There are over 140,000 people still unable to work because of covid restrictions, on the PUP, because their jobs in hospitality and entertainment aren't available to them. They, and the many many business owners in that sector, sure wouldn't say "almost everything is open".

Nevermind the hundreds of thousands of people whos social lives are still drastically limited by this. Life isn't anything close to back to normal for anyone under 30.

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117882575#Comment_117882575

Spell it out. What, "huge parts of society [are] still closed down"?

As for your second paragraph, that's a separate discussion that you're adding to the debate.

Blut2

Hospitality

Entertainment

Tourism

Aviation

Sports

And more, they're just the first sectors that come to mind that "almost everything is open" does not apply to in any way. They're all far from back to normal.

If 140,000+ people are still on the PUP, a payment explicitly for people not able to work because of government restrictions, its pretty clear evidence that "almost everything is open" is very untrue. Its not a remotely separate discussion.

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117882660#Comment_117882660

Hospitality is open, there's entertainment ongoing, tourism is open, there are planes in the sky, sport is happening. Yes, they're not back to normal...but that doesn't equate to, "having huge parts of society still closed down." ...and yes, almost everything is open.

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117882660#Comment_117882660

You will be told that bars have opened, that some games were played, that a gift shop in Westport is allowed to sell some Aran sweaters and that a plane took off from Dublin airport last week so what is the problem?

d22ontour

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117882295#Comment_117882295

I can go to my local swimming pool but I can't use the showers or use a locker for my clothes but I can get in the pool so it's open...

Jinglejangle69

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117882375#Comment_117882375

Went for a meal last night.

No vaccine cert checks.

Large families at tables a laughing and talking.

Music in the background.

No different to pre covid.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117882660#Comment_117882660

Which leaves over 90% of the pre-covid working population still working. The lack of protests or anything meaningful happening around the country would lead one to assume a lot of those 140k people are happy enough to be on PUP for now.

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117882800#Comment_117882800

Yep. 10% =/= huge parts of society still closed down.

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117882575#Comment_117882575

The hospitality sector have been saying for month`s they cannot fill their staffing needs. That would suggest a few things. One the hospitality sector is doing much better than some here would like us to believe, and two, it is not the restrictions that are stopping some of those 140,000 on PUP from filling those vacancies.

PTH2009

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117882747#Comment_117882747

That 11pm last orders out by 11.30 is not normal

Normal times you could hit the late bars/nightclubs and then house party but now it's only house party

hynesie08

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117882915#Comment_117882915

Wrong thread, deleted.....