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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Oh Micheal will definitely want his "statesman" speech when they announce the removal of the last of the restrictions - it's more politics, polls and optics rather than just information, especially when the details are always in the media hours or indeed days earlier.

    He'll want to be out in front of the cameras rather than being upstaged by Leo (again!)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Pat Kenny again fretting over mask-wearing and nervousness. I'm guessing he wasn't listening to Ciara earlier.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    What are the chances of it being an advisory and the shops keeping masks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Listening to some of Kenny's guests there the 2 he's had on are supporting the idea of personal choice , despite Pat audibly unhappy with the answer.

    As I said the other day, any retailers who try to enforce it will just lose custom to those who aren't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    It's getting choose to the end, the twitchers are panicking, swimming in vain against the tide.

    I still can't figure what game King Tony is playing, after all our abundance of caution it almost feels like he's throwing caution to the wind!

    Not complaining though 🎉



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    Hard to tell, just take your money elsewhere until they cop on to themselves if they try and keep masks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    True ,can't stand the things

    They do tend to think as a group though in this pc age we live in



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Nah it's done... they had one of the industry reps on with Pat Kenny a few minutes ago and he reckons that his members want a change and support the idea of personal choice. Also mentioned that he was in the UK recently where mask wearing has disappeared almost entirely and that he predicts we'll head the same way over the coming weeks.

    Sounds right... Irish people love consensus and to be seen doing the right thing. When they realise that more and more people are just getting on with their lives and living normally again, they'll quietly put the mask away as well. By Paddy's Day I reckon they'll be the exception, not the rule.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I'll be one of those who will be dumping them in the bin as soon as the mandatory requirement is lifted. I might even record the event for posterity! 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    Gen sec. of NBRU wants masks until end of march when there's ' fewer coughs and colds'

    Another doctor saying continue to wear masks if you don't want to get COVID ' there's an awful lot of it about '

    This sh1t would never end if these people had authority



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭billyhead




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    Happy dance time 🤣

    (I just hope my employers finally accept the tide has turned and they move away from the 2021 rules they are still enforcing... Hopefully the isolation rules change at the same time, that's the one thing keeping the mask wearing going at work... They don't give two fiddlers about our health once we can keep pumping out the goods)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭corcaigh07


    Listening to Pat Kenny for **** and giggles, he can't let it go. One sided texts being read out and like Kaiser said, the callers earlier advocated a personal choice approach and he kept swinging back the opposite way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Given how many staff you see with masks half on, below their chin or not on at all behind their plastic screens, I'd say that is very unlikely. Smaller places may ask but at the risk of losing business many will just drop any need for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭MilkyToast


    I don't wear them in shops now anyway.

    I'll continue to wear them when visiting particularly nervous and vulnerable family members if it helps them with a sense of security, even though the real security will come from the antigen test I take before visiting.

    I'll probably still wear a mask whenever I need to visit the doctors' surgery, because while they are absolutely **** useless against Covid, they might help me avoid the sorts of coughs and colds that lands people int he surgery waiting room with me. That's about it though.

    The only way for them to drop mask mandates and not look like eejits is to announce it effective immediately. "Masks are effective enough to require mandates until next Monday 2pm" is just as ridiculous as the notion that Covid spreads slower in packed house parties after 8pm was.

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ~C.S. Lewis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,897 ✭✭✭User1998


    I haven’t worn a mask in any petrol station in months. If they don’t ask now they certainly won’t ask when its no longer a legal requirement



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,900 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    Already on rte groups are saying we shouldn't be ditching masks. That we should wait until the end of March.

    I mean Jesus Christ



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,612 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    If we delay when the likes of NI, UK are removing masks it'll ruin us. I'd rather go north if that was the case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭mollser


    Put Pat Kenny on also early for the giggles, he's deranged! What's so strikingly naive is that they actually believe the existing face coverings being partly worn offer total protection to you - like in reality it might reduce the risk by a tiny bit, but if you want to be protected, don't get on the feckin packed bus in the first place!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭noraos


    To me personally the restrictions wont be fully gone, until the Covid Pass to travel is gone...and the emergency powers are ended , end of March.

    We don't need to keep them and they are still a coercion tool for boosters and that is still wrong.

    If the Covid pass continues, to me and my admittedly zero knowledge of the law.. it would mean there is possibly a law there somewhere that can refuse people to return home without PCR/ antigen tests/Passes/ or quarantine etc.. and that's against the constitution, as far as I am aware.. people not allowed entry to their home country is only restricted/ or with certain conditions only apply if they are criminals..

    That needs to end, and renewing the covid pass til next summer is a joke.

    "To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all."-Oscar Wilde



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,746 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    His parents watching children "dropping like flies" concern was hilarious



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,746 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    What's stopping these people wearing them until March 2042?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,366 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Presumably Pat hardly ever wears a mask. I'd say he hasn't been on a bus or train in about 40 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    What I have found is that most "normal" people have largely moved on/forgotten about Covid, and we are left with a lot of obsessive, anxiety-ridden types filling up the airwaves, texts, polls, etc. I don't particularly like saying this, but there is a cohort of society for whom Covid gave their lives meaning. They could follow every news item, digest all the details, and proceed to pontificate and lecture to all and sundry. The type of person who is naturally introverted, and now they are being left on the inside lane once again, as life passes them by.

    And before I am berated for being unsympathetic, I do understand that there are certain people who have underlying conditions, and are genuinely fearful. The only thing I can say is that these people must continue to risk assess, be cautious, use their own personal judgement and act accordingly. Expecting the vast, vast (VAST!) majority of society to appease their anxieties is just not sustainable anymore. Society did what was asked of them numerous times throughout the last 2 years, and now is a time to rejoice that we are finally moving on.

    BTW, say a prayer for Orla Hegarty and her ilk 😅



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,366 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Yeah these people could go back to worrying and talking about Trump again. A suggestion for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭VG31


    Not many places enforce masks as it is. Most staff don't want the hassle and those that do enforce it can say they are just making sure people comply with the law. If you switch the law for shop rules it will be a much harder sell and I really can't see many shops doing that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,366 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,978 ✭✭✭growleaves


    In retrospect the construction lockdowns are looking like one of the worst mis-steps in terms of policy. People needing somewhere to rent now could face homelessness just because there aren't lets available.

    Almost no other countries had this policy of shutting down construction sites. A lot of building work is effectively outdoors anyway.

    This is what I meant by criticising "monomania", which is throwing everything including the kitchen sink at one issue and pretending no other issues exist. No one knows whether shutting down construction sites 'saved lives' (doubtful) but now we have to experience the consequences of a supply shock in housing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Michael Martin couldnt ( in a full throated manner ) recommend that today is Thursday , hes the ultimate fence sitting, shivering, touch kicker



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