Litter fine

Pinoy adventure

My mother has received a €150 euro litter fine.what happens once she pays this fine ??? Would the council matter if I payed it on her behalf ???

thanks

athlone573

Pinoy adventure wrote: »

My mother has received a €150 euro litter fine.what happens once she pays this fine ??? Would the council matter if I payed it on her behalf ???

thanks

Get a receipt and they'll throw the fine in the bin

Ask the council if you can pay it or if they need a bank draft for the exact amount

Dr Turk Turkelton

athlone573 wrote: »

Get a receipt and they'll throw the fine in the bin

Ask the council if you can pay it or if they need a bank draft for the exact amount

By the sounds of it throwing things in the bin is the problem in the first place.

Pinoy adventure

athlone573 wrote: »

Get a receipt and they'll throw the fine in the bin

Ask the council if you can pay it or if they need a bank draft for the exact amount

Any idea if they take credit card ???
As there is no mention of it on the fine

athlone573

Pinoy adventure wrote: »

Any idea if they take credit card ???
As there is no mention of it on the fine

Last time I got a fine from a council there was a phone number on the ticket you may try calling it during office hours

Pinoy adventure

Pinoy adventure wrote: »

Any idea if they take credit card ???
As there is no mention of it on the fine

Yes, they take card.

Pinoy adventure

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yes, they take card.

Ok thanks

punisher5112

They will take payment off anyone willing to pay on her behalf.

Fann Linn

Pinoy adventure wrote: »

My mother has received a €150 euro litter fine.what happens once she pays this fine ??? Would the council matter if I payed it on her behalf ???

thanks

You can pay it by cc, cheque, PO or cash.

Pinoy adventure

punisher5112 wrote: »

They will take payment off anyone willing to pay on her behalf.

It's not for a want but I don't want too see her end up in court over a €150 fine.

martingriff

Pinoy adventure wrote: »

It's not for a want but I don't want too see her end up in court over a €150 fine.

Does she not want to pay it

Pinoy adventure

martingriff wrote: »

Does she not want to pay it

Her response was ''over my dead body ''
So I'll look after it.

martingriff

Pinoy adventure wrote: »

Her response was ''over my dead body ''
So I'll look after it.

Ag okay be prepared for a storm when she realised it was paid

1874

Pinoy adventure wrote: »

Her response was ''over my dead body ''
So I'll look after it.

Fcuking wow, so she has no problem with being part of the epidemic of littering and thinks a fine is a problem,

well at least you turned out ok

Pinoy adventure

martingriff wrote: »

Ag okay be prepared for a storm when she realised it was paid

It has all ready been forgotten (for now )

General Toilet

Until next time.

Victor

What does paying the fine mean? Does it result in some form of admission of guilt?

KaneToad

Is she disputing that she littered? If she's adamant she didn't, she should challenge it.

Pinoy adventure

Victor wrote: »

What does paying the fine mean? Does it result in some form of admission of guilt?

I would assume the problem goes away

Pinoy adventure

KaneToad wrote: »

Is she disputing that she littered? If she's adamant she didn't, she should challenge it.

No disputing the fact.
I just want it sorted so there is no more issues.

Peregrinus

As far as the Council is concerned, once the fine is paid in a timely fashion, never mind by who, that's an end to the matter. There'll be no more issues — from them.

If you were a parent, and your mother were your daughter, I'd point out to you that what you'd be doing here is enabling your child's irresponsible behaviour by shielding her from the consequences of her actions. As long as daddy keeps paying the bills, the child will keep running up bills - why wouldn't she? And, as you have a responsibility to your daughter, you shouldn't do this.

But you don't have quite the same responsibility to your mother. For better or worse, her character is fixed, and it's not your job to form it. The downside risk here is that she'll do again what she has done before, because there were no consequences for her the last time. It's a risk which falls on you. You may be happy to bear it.

Pinoy adventure

Having a spare hour this morning I decided too head too the council office too pay the fine,only too discover it's closed due too Covid !

Now I've too waste more time by calling them too do the payment over the phone !

Victor

Pinoy adventure wrote: »

Having a spare hour this morning I decided too head too the council office too pay the fine,only too discover it's closed due too Covid !

Now I've too waste more time by calling them too do the payment over the phone !

Check the council website. They may have a payment portal.

Pinoy adventure

Victor wrote: »

Check the council website. They may have a payment portal.

The office phone is back at 2pm so hopefully can do it over the phone,if not will have a look.thanks

GerardKeating

Pinoy adventure wrote: »

Her response was ''over my dead body ''
So I'll look after it.

Does she dispute that she littered ?

Pinoy adventure

GerardKeating wrote: »

Does she dispute that she littered ?

She is not a 100% but surely there was some proof that she did.
It's a cause of arguement so I just want too settle the issue.

Spook_ie

Details should be available on the fine notice or from the council. Is there a chance she got a "company" to remove some waste and it ended up being fly tipped?
In which case if she used a registered company send it on to them.

Uncle Pierre

This is probably neither here nor there in respect of the OP's post, but I remember once getting a littering fine myself while I lived in Dublin some 20 years ago.

It was in respect of a large cardboard box that had my name and address on a label attached. I'd put it out late one night for collection early the following morning, same as I always did with my rubbish/recycling at the time.

It was gone the next morning all right, but about two weeks later I received a fine, stating it had been found a couple of streets away. I've always presumed it was moved by some drunken eejits on their way home, who maybe played games with it along the way, or something.

I appealed the fine at the time by setting out in writing the circumstances of what had happened. The appeal was denied on the grounds that I was still responsible for it until time of actual collection. I then reluctantly paid the fine.

I still don't know what they actually expected me to do. It seems I'd be supposed to either stand guard over it all night, or else get up around 5 a.m. to put stuff out just as the collection lorry was arriving.

As I say, probably neither here nor there in respect of the OP, but could be one explanation why the mother is reluctant to pay the fine, if something similar happened to her.

1874

Uncle Pierre wrote: »

This is probably neither here nor there in respect of the OP's post, but I remember once getting a littering fine myself while I lived in Dublin some 20 years ago.

It was in respect of a large cardboard box that had my name and address on a label attached. I'd put it out late one night for collection early the following morning, same as I always did with my rubbish/recycling at the time.

It was gone the next morning all right, but about two weeks later I received a fine, stating it had been found a couple of streets away. I've always presumed it was moved by some drunken eejits on their way home, who maybe played games with it along the way, or something.

I appealed the fine at the time by setting out in writing the circumstances of what had happened. The appeal was denied on the grounds that I was still responsible for it until time of actual collection. I then reluctantly paid the fine.

I still don't know what they actually expected me to do. It seems I'd be supposed to either stand guard over it all night, or else get up around 5 a.m. to put stuff out just as the collection lorry was arriving.

As I say, probably neither here nor there in respect of the OP, but could be one explanation why the mother is reluctant to pay the fine, if something similar happened to her.

?? beggars belief, yep, you are not meant to leave stuff out all night, so its only meant to be out from before when they are collecting it.
I guess thats either to stop drunken eejits as you think stealing your rubbish or kicking it around, or as likely to stop the wind picking it up and taking it away.

I had wheelie bins 20+ years ago, Im fairly sure we had even green bins, so either you put out excess stuff or just carted it out there and left it.
I still see people leaving out rubbish beside the bins, extra recycling in bags on the recycle collection day and general rubbish on the black/grey bin day in bags beside the bin, not supposed to be done, invariably if there is a bit of wind it just gets blown all over the place.
Your fine was justified, if the OPs was anything similar, same.
Cant fathom how you still dont get it??

kirving

1874 wrote: »

only meant to be out from before when they are collecting it.

"Before" what time?

If you could tell me what time on Tuesday the bin truck will call around, I'll arrange some time off work so I can drive home and stand there and guard the bin in case they're late.

I know people tend to be righteous on Boards, but that's another level entirely.

95% of people put the bins out the night before, and shouldn't be targeted because someone thought it was a laugh to kick a box down the road. You know, common sense.

athlone573

Common sense would be removing your name and address, and not leaving loose rubbish where it could be easily moved by wind, animals or randomers.

1874

kirving wrote: »

"Before" what time?

If you could tell me what time on Tuesday the bin truck will call around, I'll arrange some time off work so I can drive home and stand there and guard the bin in case they're late.

I know people tend to be righteous on Boards, but that's another level entirely.

95% of people put the bins out the night before, and shouldn't be targeted because someone thought it was a laugh to kick a box down the road. You know, common sense.

No its not, this country is blighted with litter, from selfish morons who cant be arsed to do the bare minimum, and dispose of their own rubbish.
Its simply not a case of pegging it out into the street the night before and hope it gets taken and then wonder 20 years on what they could have done or be expected to do, its your rubbish, sort it out.


The collection service I have, has it listed to put out at the side of the road before or by a certain time that morning, I just have it ready to go and wheel it out that morning
I couldnt possibly know what your collection service wants, you should look it up yourself, you cant even manage that!

I wedge the bin up against the kerb so it doesnt get blown over as easily.

There are ways in which waste collection could make it easier/better, but most people are going to be lazy/selfish about it.

tscul32

One of the bin companies here regularly comes by at 7am on a Saturday morning. Don't think there are too many who want to have to get up at 6.45am every Saturday to put out the bins.

1874

tscul32 wrote: »

One of the bin companies here regularly comes by at 7am on a Saturday morning. Don't think there are too many who want to have to get up at 6.45am every Saturday to put out the bins.

Well I have no clue who that bin service is?? I dont know what is in their T&Cs?
I dont think a saturday is a great day for bin collections, maybe everyone could sign up for another service provider so they dont have to get up on Sat mornings.

If they dont like it, they could, not sign up for that service, if no alternative, its a small price to pay,

There is a good episode on the Simpsons, I thought it was a bit of a joke and a poor episode, but in reality, it seems it was highlighting just how lazy and selfish some/many people are willing to be about their waste/rubbish.

HalfAndHalf

1874 wrote: »

No its not, this country is blighted with litter, from selfish morons who cant be arsed to do the bare minimum, and dispose of their own rubbish.
Its simply not a case of pegging it out into the street the night before and hope it gets taken and then wonder 20 years on what they could have done or be expected to do, its your rubbish, sort it out.


The collection service I have, has it listed to put out at the side of the road before or by a certain time that morning, I just have it ready to go and wheel it out that morning
I couldnt possibly know what your collection service wants, you should look it up yourself, you cant even manage that!

I wedge the bin up against the kerb so it doesnt get blown over as easily.

There are ways in which waste collection could make it easier/better, but most people are going to be lazy/selfish about it.

You put your bin in the road?

Marcusm

Uncle Pierre wrote: »

This is probably neither here nor there in respect of the OP's post, but I remember once getting a littering fine myself while I lived in Dublin some 20 years ago.

It was in respect of a large cardboard box that had my name and address on a label attached. I'd put it out late one night for collection early the following morning, same as I always did with my rubbish/recycling at the time.

It was gone the next morning all right, but about two weeks later I received a fine, stating it had been found a couple of streets away. I've always presumed it was moved by some drunken eejits on their way home, who maybe played games with it along the way, or something.

I appealed the fine at the time by setting out in writing the circumstances of what had happened. The appeal was denied on the grounds that I was still responsible for it until time of actual collection. I then reluctantly paid the fine.

I still don't know what they actually expected me to do. It seems I'd be supposed to either stand guard over it all night, or else get up around 5 a.m. to put stuff out just as the collection lorry was arriving.

As I say, probably neither here nor there in respect of the OP, but could be one explanation why the mother is reluctant to pay the fine, if something similar happened to her.

You’re supposed to break it up and put it in the recycling bin or else take it to a being centre. Or, more simply, realise that removing your address label from it would hve meant you would not have received a fine!

1874

HalfAndHalf wrote: »

You put your bin in the road?

In the road, no? at the side of the road, yes, thats where they ask for it to be left, and for the most part that's where people leave them.
Why? possibly to prevent bins tipping over? I don't know, most likely it makes it easier for them to collect and place on the truck for emptying.

HalfAndHalf

1874 wrote: »

In the road, no? at the side of the road, yes, thats where they ask for it to be left, and for the most part that's where people leave them.
Why? possibly to prevent bins tipping over? I don't know, most likely it makes it easier for them to collect and place on the truck for emptying.

So on the pavement so. I’m not sure I follow how you wedge it up against the curb as the curb is the same level as the pavement.

1874

HalfAndHalf wrote: »

So on the pavement so. I’m not sure I follow how you wedge it up against the curb as the curb is the same level as the pavement.

Its pretty clear, anyway, why is it relevant? I pay to dispose of my rubbish, I makes sure it doesn't get strewn all over the neighbourhood,
I follow the conditions of the service provider, I have something of a legacy account with them, although they keep edging up the charges, I found if you are sensible about it, you rarely have to put a bin out, 1 grey bin a month-6weeks, 1 green bin every 2 months, if you rinse and squash item, the bin wont cause odours, compost as much as possible then what ever is left over is in the brown bin. It requires a bit, but I consider minimal effort.
The state of anywhere in this country you care to look, rubbish/litter strewn everywhere, Id say its an embarrassment and down to laziness/selfishness. Glad to see some Council somewhere is giving out fines, its a fraction of whats going on.


Some of the worst I saw, was someone firing rubbish and by the look of it some nappies out a car window, while crossing a canal.
Another person emptying a load of cigarette butts and a host of other rubbish as they waited on their takeaway,
I dont really understand when I see people just throw rubbish/wrappers/whatever away as they walk along??? beggars belief.

Speak Now

1874 wrote: »

Well I have no clue who that bin service is?? I dont know what is in their T&Cs?
I dont think a saturday is a great day for bin collections, maybe everyone could sign up for another service provider so they dont have to get up on Sat mornings.

If they dont like it, they could, not sign up for that service, if no alternative, its a small price to pay,

There is a good episode on the Simpsons, I thought it was a bit of a joke and a poor episode, but in reality, it seems it was highlighting just how lazy and selfish some/many people are willing to be about their waste/rubbish.

"They let me sign cheques with a stamp Marge...WITH A STAMP"!

kirving

1874 wrote: »

its your rubbish, sort it out.


The collection service I have, has it listed to put out at the side of the road before or by a certain time that morning, I just have it ready to go and wheel it out that morning....

By your own logic, if you leave the bin out at 9am as requested by the company, and the truck comes at 9.30, then me kicking your bin over for the laugh at 9.15 is your fault.

It's your rubbish. You should be looking after it.

Can you see how your logic means that the only solution to this problem is to stand guard by the bin until the truck arrives.

HalfAndHalf

1874 wrote: »

Its pretty clear, anyway, why is it relevant? I pay to dispose of my rubbish, I makes sure it doesn't get strewn all over the neighbourhood,
I follow the conditions of the service provider, I have something of a legacy account with them, although they keep edging up the charges, I found if you are sensible about it, you rarely have to put a bin out, 1 grey bin a month-6weeks, 1 green bin every 2 months, if you rinse and squash item, the bin wont cause odours, compost as much as possible then what ever is left over is in the brown bin. It requires a bit, but I consider minimal effort.
The state of anywhere in this country you care to look, rubbish/litter strewn everywhere, Id say its an embarrassment and down to laziness/selfishness. Glad to see some Council somewhere is giving out fines, its a fraction of whats going on.


Some of the worst I saw, was someone firing rubbish and by the look of it some nappies out a car window, while crossing a canal.
Another person emptying a load of cigarette butts and a host of other rubbish as they waited on their takeaway,
I dont really understand when I see people just throw rubbish/wrappers/whatever away as they walk along??? beggars belief.

Jaysus ok buddie, I was only asking a question, no need to get so wrecked about it.

It obviously isn’t clear how you’d wedge a bin against a curb unless your curbs are higher than your pavement. Which they’re not.

But forget it, I can’t bear the stress I’m putting you under.

1874

HalfAndHalf wrote: »

Jaysus ok buddie, I was only asking a question, no need to get so wrecked about it.

It obviously isn’t clear how you’d wedge a bin against a curb unless your curbs are higher than your pavement. Which they’re not.

But forget it, I can’t bear the stress I’m putting you under.

wtf? Im not stressed, sound like you are.
I just think its fairly despicable that grown adults think its ok to litter, shure someone else will clean it up mentality, it is widespread in this Country.
Good to hear some fines are being handed out, tip of the iceberg though.

HalfAndHalf

1874 wrote: »

wtf? Im not stressed, sound like you are.
I just think its fairly despicable that grown adults think its ok to litter, shure someone else will clean it up mentality, it is widespread in this Country.
Good to hear some fines are being handed out, tip of the iceberg though.

Ok buddie. Good luck!

Victor

1874 wrote: »

?? beggars belief, yep, you are not meant to leave stuff out all night, so its only meant to be out from before when they are collecting it.

The bye-laws in Dublin City say that residents can leave out their bin from 5pm the previous day. I imagine other bye-laws are similar.

longgonesilver

Remember to close your lids!

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40328084.html

1874

Victor wrote: »

The bye-laws in Dublin City say that residents can leave out their bin from 5pm the previous day. I imagine other bye-laws are similar.

I checked and my council bye law says 8pm, although I read somewhere in T&Cs by my service provider, no earlier than a certain time on the day. Someone seemed up in arms about it, the bye law also refers to kerbside collection.
A lot of people do put their bins out the night before, which shouldnt be a problem unless there is weather thats likely to blow bins over. It would be useful if bins were all a standard design and had a basic latch mechanism that was operated when the bin was lifted, to open the lid, so if bins get blown over they dont spill their contents.
Anyway, this thread was about paying fines, either for blatant or negligent littering, not bins.

HalfAndHalf

1874 wrote: »

I checked and my council bye law says 8pm, although I read somewhere in T&Cs by my service provider, no earlier than a certain time on the day. Someone seemed up in arms about it, the bye law also refers to kerbside collection.
A lot of people do put their bins out the night before, which shouldnt be a problem unless there is weather thats likely to blow bins over. It would be useful if bins were all a standard design and had a basic latch mechanism that was operated when the bin was lifted, to open the lid, so if bins get blown over they dont spill their contents.
Anyway, this thread was about paying fines, either for blatant or negligent littering, not bins.

Gotta wonder why you brought up bins then. Yer man mentioned a cardboard box and you went into one about bins and curbs and wind and not overnight etc etc. LOL.

1874

HalfAndHalf wrote: »

Gotta wonder why you brought up bins then. Yer man mentioned a cardboard box and you went into one about bins and curbs and wind and not overnight etc etc. LOL.

I thought you said goodluck! I didnt bother responding to that,
what that chap did sounded essentially like littering,
littering is basically ignorant and stupid, because people that do it, mostly do it where they live and it is easily avoidable, and relatively cheap to do right.

Pinoy adventure

longgonesilver wrote: »

Remember to close your lids!

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40328084.html

Our case is sumthing very similar too this.im not going into the full details here but it was a simple mistake made by my mother.3 phone calls later too the litter warden- he had to bee seen too do sumthing.

My only concern is there was 3 letters with 3 different names in the bag,does all 3 people get fined or is it just 1 €150 fine ?

General Toilet

They will all get a letter from the council.