Kilkenny GAA Thread

nippy corner foward

A dreadful match which wont live long in the memory of neutrals but that womt matter to the shamrocks. Jordon molloy tried hard but looking at paddy deegan up close today the amount of mistakes he makes is very bad. We arent going foward with him on the team next year. Huw hasnt being himself the last few games and there was strong talk that he is definitely going traveling. You would never think luke hogan and owen wall were county men. Im in no doubt derek needs to go back to the drawing board and go after lads who are hurling well for their club. Fair play to henry. They all seem to rate herity very highly. Really slow from kk management not to get him on board. Moving corcoran to 6 and reid to the wing was a shrewd move and bringing cody out to 11 although it seemed obvious it still needed to be done. A very poor wknd for loughlins. Thwy looked clueless at times today. Two finals in a row that they didnt turn up.

conor05

The standard hasn’t been good in the Kilkenny SHC this year which is a reflection of where the county team is at, a very poor final.

The row beside me in the stand in the second half was the highlight of the match but Ballyhale were very accurate in the second half, they played the better brand of hurling.

It will be interesting to see how they progress in Leinster.

lob it in

A pity about today's final but as has been said the standard in this year's senior championship has been very poor with no stand out match that I can think of,a shame really after what was a brilliant intermidiate final and a very good (but controversial) junior final.

lob it in

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123939341#Comment_123939341

I believe Peter Burke was injured for a while and was only back last week.

blackcard

Of the 7 O'Loughlin's players on the County Panel, all bar Jordan Molloy and Mackessy were poor. Luke Hogan and Owen Wall made little impression. For Shamrocks, Richie Reid hoovered up loads of ball and scored 2 points, could have got a second yellow. Darragh Corcoran was my motm. Eoin Cody got on a load of ball but was inaccurate. Still, centre forward is the way to go with him. Adrian Mullen has been a shadow of himself all year. May need a break.

It will be interesting to see how Shamrocks fare in Leinster.

kksaints

Match was dreadful, didnt even get much excitement in the 2nd half. Ballyhale had a decent spell at the start of the 2nd half that won it but it wasn't necessarily free flowing hurling. O'Loughlins were abysmal, non-existent forward line and midfield and even their defence didn't exactly pull up any trees. MacKessy hit two good scores in the 1st half but that was it. Wall and Hogan weren't in the match at all.

Richie Reid was probably man of the match but mostly because he was best of a bad bunch. Eoin Cody hit a lot of wides but took the goal well. Mullen wasn't in the game. Thought the Corcoran playing as the left wing back did well.

JJust can't stress enough how bad that match was both quality and entertainment wise.

Village87

Take away Lawlor and Molloy and none of them OLG players are close to winning Kilkenny an All Ireland, desperate stuff.

A stab of the backs and midfield next year, would love to see this line up. All excellent individuals and also outstanding club campaigns

Tallis

Carey Lawlor K Corcoran

D Blanch D Corcoran D O'Neill

C Kenny J Molloy

conor05

Corcoran is a great club hurler and played very well today but is way too one paced for Inter County hurling, he is not the answer to centre back and I don’t think at the minute we have a Ronan Maher/Kyle Hates type centre back to fill our biggest weakness this last few years.

What stood out today in a poor match was Ballyhales commitment to winning the breaking ball under puckouts, it was very good and they are back playing their Criss Cross type of hurling under Henry and opened OLG all over the pitch in the second half with accurate hurl passes to the hand.

KK36

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123939619#Comment_123939619

Ah he’s not too bad. Probably the best of the local commentators on Clubber.

Krazy gang

Lot of nastiness and bad blood in the 2nd half. Hope that doesn't carry over to the co team.

Seemed to be a bit of commotion after the final whistle as well. Did anyone see that?

Topcat32

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123939921#Comment_123939921

**** all in the village close to winning anyone an All Ireland next year too to be fair, although I totally accept we will need a fair few of the James Stephens underage players to hurl on over the next few years to get back to where we want to be

Topcat32

Think we need a bit of nastiness brought into the squad to be fair

Village87

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123940287#Comment_123940287

The problem with us is I don't think we will get any of them hurling at intercounty level maybe Sean Bergin. None of them have stood out for Kilkenny underage the last 4/5 years. Lahouf had a very poor year, his treatment by club management was nothing but pure arrogance

nippy corner foward

County players park friendship when club jersey goes on. O loughlins got very frustrated when the match went against them and a few skirmishes went on around the place. Paddy mullen boxed butler in the stomach in front of the old stand and infairness mikey didnt make too much out of it. They were still niggling at each other just as paddy was getting replaced.i know croke park in the summer would be a different ball game but derek is entering his 4th year and has only added two players in that time. He has being conservative and not put any kind of stamp on the team. Huw hasnt being himself the last few days,he's head possibly in a different place. He will be a big loss if the strong rumours are true but a couple of o loughlin men around me were fairly sure he will be gone. Watching paddy deegan up close today the amount of silly errors he makes is cruel. Yes hes honest and tries very hard but derek will have to grow a pair of balls and inject new players into a stale team that has gradually regressed over the last 3 years and drop a few players. Croke park will different on a hot summers day but derek has to do something different. Richie was excellent on the wing. Theres no point dropping corcoran after one bad league match. We are hopeful eddie brennan will bring something new to the table. I hope doherty and wall didnt leave after one year because they had little say. Peter o donovan is dereks right hand man but the jury is still out on him. Hopefully eddie and niall will be listened to, finally all the talk yesterday in extra time was o loughlins would run paulstown off the pitch after training with the senior and although conditions werent great today the narrative was o loughlins would have too much pace the complete opposite happened. Mikey comerford will be dissapointed to have them as flat as pancakes two years in a row.

conor05

Eoin Cody & Paddy Deegan said some very nasty stuff to eachother at the end of the row, seemed to a bit of hatred to it.

Do the losing team ever go for a few pints with the winning team the next day in Kilkenny or is it a thing?

Village87

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123940608#Comment_123940608

No Deegan miles off it and Shamrocks targeted him and Butler today with great success. If Deegan can't perform at club level on a wet day with Huw Lawlor behind him he has no business at inter county level on the big stage in Croke Park

jamesbond2022

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123940618#Comment_123940618

They spent a lot of time wrestling mouthing and laughing at each other in the league game earlier on in the year I wouldn’t take much notice of anything that happened today lads might not be all the best of friends but I don’t think that ever comes into things when they pull on a kk jersey unlike maybe some other counties

nippy corner foward

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123940300#Comment_123940300

Couple of lads getting another chance like timmy clifford. Ian byrne is able to commit next year. I watched a few junior matches this year and paulstown definitely had more consistent performances compared to two other lads from junior clubs on the county panel.scruff puckouts have being desperate.He said himself he doesnt like short puckouts.its either tallis or mason get a proper look in the goal.Mason looks trimmer and david herity has apparently done great work with him.They wouldn't be in the final if it wasn't for the late saves against the boro. Very little impression made trying to find a number 6. Hopefully a few trails take place and players from the 3 grades from north to south get looked at.

Marrooned

really today the best performers today were three men in their late thirties TJ,Richie Reid and Joey Holden. Time to start a root and branch clear out of the county team and see where it takes us Lyng cannot possibly revert back to the old guard as a cushion he has to keep going forward even if he is not getting the results.

The_Ghost

haven’t seen the game back woke up over here and saw the result and have read the comments. Disappointing the game didn’t deliver esp with the quality that could be on show. It will be interesting to see how ballyhale fair in Leinster because they’re not the team they ust to be but by all accounts Na Fianna and St Martins weren’t too brilliant either so Leinster is wide open. Hopefully get to watch it later but OLG only scoring 0-13 is very very poor. Whatever about their inter county careers these ballyhale lads have had some run in KK. Another win for Herity, who by all accounts is brilliant. Poor championship from what I’ve read and saw. Ballyhale win county titles from preliminary quarters more than anyone😂 please god Huw stays don’t care about his form is because he’s the best back in Ireland on his day and we’ve nobody else standing out at FB. Agree with the statements younger lads need to be give a proper chance next year, not one bad performance and your gone. Thanks for all those who gave match updates to us who can’t attend them.

Marrooned

as regards our senior hurling championship we will have to judge where we are on our performances in the upcoming coming Leinster club championships against a strong Offaly Kilcormack team and if successful a really good outfit in Dublin in na Fianna.

Village87

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123941474#Comment_123941474

Shamrocks are a very good team and will be hard to beat. They have a great mix of scoring forwards, a bit of steel and great work rate and unbelievable individuals

Village87

Watching back the match OLG were lucky they were not bet by 20 points yesterday. Shamrocks missed easily 1-10 in the first half. Paddy Mullen put Deegan on his arse for a perfect legitimate goal that was ruled a free. They were completely destroyed