Kilkenny GAA Thread

Marrooned

Spot on lads about the benefits of the U19 competition.

Marrooned

Clare bet Tipp in the minor championship by two points in Ennis. Tipp lost two out of two.where does that leave them.

Billy Ocean

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123329178#Comment_123329178

4 out of 5 in Munster qualify for the all Ireland series so not out of the picture.

therealdonster

Village here you go again with your bitter agenda. The only one creating a toxic environment is you - on this forum.

JJs Left Hand

They won comfortably, thought Dublin were quite poor, McDermott was pretty good.

But I'm not a fan of the team set up and the style of hurling at all.

I don't know enough about the rest of the teams in the age group to comment on how far they can go but I suspect a decent team could cause us a lot of trouble the way we're conceding the puck out to bring Neary back and they're just able to walk it up to the halfway line.

But they're 2 for 2 so hopefully they continue to get results

droppingball

Before a little rant, they are doing ok and have two good wins, and on the ball they seem to be well coached.

But don't think you can win playing 7 backs and 2 inside forwards and conceding the puckouts. Especially when one of the men inside in full forward line is a huge man that needs lads to play off him. Tipp u20s are playing the same way, teams use the ball so well now that it just doesn't work.

We will get picked off against better teams like Galway and Offaly. It is Derek Mcgrath style hurling from years ago. Managers will tell you they want to use it as an attacking ploy but it is a negative tactic which shows a lack of trust in the players.

Neewollah

Agree with the above comments. It's a good team. Not relying on any stars. Work hard for each other but we won't win the all ireland playing with a sweeper. I think we'd have had dublin put away a lot earlier if we went man on man and forced them to puck it long.

jamesbond2022

I was impressed with the 20s today again they can only beat what’s put in front of them there 1st 2 goals were a bit lucky but they work scores well after that especially when they went down to 14
Did anyone see the sending off incident ?

I don’t know is macevoy a free taker he takes frees but doesn’t look like a free taker if that makes sense

I wouldn’t worry about our system to much from what I can see we have pace and athletes in every position up to midfield who are all confident with handling the ball and bursting forward

Lyng and neary rotated a good bit as the free man

D lyng played p macdonald back in 2020 as a free man and we won the all Ireland

It looks like the first group of hurlers that would have produced that can be comfortable at senior level playing the game of running and throwing the ball as it is played today

Dublin overplayed the ball as usual took a lot of the wrong options and to much out of the ball

me89

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123330031#Comment_123330031

Looked like the red was for a stamp on the Dublin lad who was on the ground

Thought it was a very decent performance Mcdermott looked good with 1-05 and Lyng did very well centre back.

Did anyone else think the pitch was terrible? Very bumpy.

jamesbond2022

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123330068#Comment_123330068

Right

There was a few digs and shoulders etc a few mins before in front of the Dublin bench presume that was the start of it

McDermott had a great game I thought hes definetly quicker than I thought also

Box to box

Two wins from two so you can't do much better.the big test now awaits and how they manage the 5 or 6 week break. Dont know what the red was for because it was at the far side. I was down low in the old stand and one hundred percent the pitch looked in poor condition.Dublin were disappointing enough but they created some half chances after the sending off. Lyng hurled very well and got a great score from a dublin puckout. Macdermot is a big man and was also very good. I suggested that a few weeks ago he would be worth a look in around the senior panel and try devolop him. Marty Murphy caught some good ball and made a few scores and if they can keep him injury free and get plenty of hurling into him over the next few weeks. Glynn is a brilliant little worker. I don't know about the set up. As others have said if you invite the better teams on they will punish you. They have a few weeks to try get it right. The safety net is gone but there's definitely some good hurlers on this panel. Well done to the u19 after a bad start against westmeath.it's a great competition and hopefully more counties will get involved because it helps get players ready for the next step in their devolopment. What's noticeable is our younger players are bigger and stronger and probably better prepared compared to years ago so the big improvement in the s&c is a big positive.

Comerman

The minutes silence for Robert Shore was a nice thing to do and it was great to see his grandson Michael Brennan score 1.2👌

babyjesus14

Thought it was a decent performance yesterday. The problem that arises now though is that we have five and a half weeks to the semi final which more than likely will be against the losers of Tuesday nights match in Ballinasloe (between Galway and Offaly), who will have played a quarter final the week before.

Personally I hope Galway win that game and we get Offaly in the semis because it would definitely be in the Park. Based on the results down in Munster so far there doesn't seem to be an obvious standout team. Offaly will probably be favourites to win it out but the issue they are going to face is the fact that come the knockout phase the Senior championship will also be happening and they will have a number of lads double jobbing. Also Adam Screeney hasn't played at all this year and if they were missing him he would be a huge loss.

jonniegoogle

After the last 20 years of man on man hurling and going backwards doing it, some people here are criticising a management team for dropping a man back and trying something different especially when it looks like he has the players to do it.

Do we want to take steps forward or back?

I'll guarantee you most of these players will be better equipped to make the step up to senior squad than many of their predecessors who are unable to work the ball through the lines.

Personally I'm absolutely delighted to see a KK underage team using a sweeper which actually can be more offensive than defensive.

To mention Derek McGrath is absolute nonsense. He would play with 2 or 3 forwards at times so the comparison is poor in my eyes.

Marrooned

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123330905#Comment_123330905

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p

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123330905#Comment_123330905

Why would we be definitely meeting in the park, I don’t think that was sorted last year just a cock up on our part. I hope I’m wrong

Krazy gang

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123331302#Comment_123331302

I presume the teams who top the group get home venue for the semi final.

babyjesus14

I assume there's a home and away arrangement in place( as there is with other Leinster based teams for knockout games prior to finals). We played them in the quarters in '22 in the Park so we had to go to Tullamore last year. As i said i'm making an assumption so i may be wrong.

me89

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123331330#Comment_123331330

Pretty sure we were only in tullamore last year because of Bruce and should of been at home

babyjesus14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123331329#Comment_123331329

You would think that should be the case but it wasn't last year as we topped our group but had to go to Tullamore for the semi.

babyjesus14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123331353#Comment_123331353

Maybe so. Hopefully as another poster suggested the team who tops the group get's home advantage which would make sense.

Marrooned

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123331330#Comment_123331330

ye but I think our muppets in charge made a balls up last year with the Springsteen concert and had to cough up home venue if so Offaly wouldn’t have to honour a home venue for us this time?

Grats

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123331047#Comment_123331047

Signed off here months ago but just had to reply to this most sensible post, spot on. Kinda, dammed if you do, dammed if you don't with a particular few posters here.

Village87

Cork and Clare proved last year that the game has moved on from the sweeper. With quick puck outs and shooting from distance and good use of the ball there is no need for a full out out sweeper imo.

Neewollah

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123331803#Comment_123331803

Would tend to agree, over the years there hasn't been many all irelands won by teams playing an out and out sweeper. Limerick, Cork and Clare play the game in the most effective way currently. All about volume of shots nowadays and try force teams to hit big numbers to beat you

jamesbond2022

I think most teams have a free man at the back these days some might be more extreme and have a 7th defender etc but usually the cb is always sitting back closer to the d the centre forward is roving across the half forward line or dropping deep a midfielder sits into the cb position or picks up the centre forward

It’s not called a sweeper but that’s essentially what it is

Who exactly has Declan hannon marked in the last 7 years when he was forced to mark someone last year he was cleaned out particularly against cork

I’d call j conlon a free man sweeper Clare won the all Ireland last year

droppingball

I might have been over the top to say it was Derek Mcgrath hurling but it is hurling with the hand break on and we will be found out for it I'd say. Hopefully not as there is talent in that team. Mcdermott and Murphy are good hurlers but are not suited to play in a two man full forward line.

Neewollah

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123332089#Comment_123332089

And you'll never really get to see the best of Glynn in a 2 man inside line either.

mullinr2

If a rebel rising doesn't wake up our own county board nothing will. They'll surely make up some ground on our All Ireland haul

droppingball

Tipp conceding the puck out to Cork here too, can't understand why teams are doing it, it doesn't work anymore teams have worked it out.

bostonbeauty

very disappointed league final

Tipp never really at races from the halfway point of the first half before the goals started flying .thought tipp would have made a better fist of it young McCarty had a quite day

Some house hold names coming off the bench for cork today they’ll take beating