I watched the kk subs doing there drills before the match maybe 2 legal hand passes from what I saw the default is now to just throw the ball
It’s horrible to watch but it’s here to stay unfortunately
Cork do play a lovely to watch style but sorry to be a killjoy, much of it is due to being allowed overcarry and throw.
Before we coronate them, a reminder that this is still largely Cork 2021 with 3/4 new names.
I checked last night and 13 players that played at some stage yesterday also played in the 2021 rout by Limerick, that's a lot for a team now being heralded as almost unstoppable.
I'm happy with U20 progress, we need to avoid Galway in semi as I think they are the team to beat. I think Leinster winners look more likely to win it out. I'd be surprised if Galway dont beat Offaly tomorrow.
The pass that put the Dublin player clean through for their 2nd goal on Saturday was the cleanest throw you could see. But it didn't need to be a throw, the player was wide open and a legal handpass was just as easy. This tells me that throwing is now simply ingrained and instinctive, the Dublin player just instintively threw the ball. It needs a ref to have the balls to cancel a vital goal, that would at least have these coaches who are essentially coaching players to cheat to get word out to never use a throw for a set up for a clear goal, it's too high risk.
Fair enough. Limerick 3.32 Cork 1.22 All Ireland final '21 about as swashbuckling as it gets. Ronan Maher apart couldn't see too many of yesterdays Tipp team making their team that we played twice back in 2014. That said they are finding a few ,young Doyle, O'Farrell and the couple of young subs will give them hope. Cork are a great watch no doubt and the players muted celebrations show they are on a different mission this year.
this under 20team was bet by Dublin at prelim rounds at minor level and bet by Laois in the quarter finals. I thought the last day Lyng excellent again (I hope that doesn’t warrant a call up).Marty Murphy improved no end from the last day and Ed. McDermott was very good, after that they were all just about OK.I wouldn’t be that confident after seeing them,but hopefully they will improve.
I'm referring to Cork as a spectacle. I don't think they will win an All Ireland. They are too Swashbuckling and it cost them last year v Clare. They are fantastic to watch.
You are consistent, will say that much for you, make of that what you will. The best brand of hurling I saw in the last fifteen years was played by ourselves and Tipp when we met '09 to '19 not that there was anything wrong with Limericks brand '18 to '23. Cork are impressive no doubt but best brand is usually the winning brand and when they have 4 in a row done we might have this chat again. Well done to our under 20s yesterday another impressive outing . Timmy Kelly will be a huge loss going forward if Red upheld, didn't see the incident so can't say. If Marty Murphy is fit to start next day we might upset the odds and make the provincial final.
Cork are playing the best brand of hurling seen in 15 years. Might not be good enough to win an all Ireland but absolutely a joy to watch. Great pace, route one, fantastic stuff.
When you play a sweeper your smaller corner forwards are at an obvious disadvantage as
Sounds like we won't agree but really like Glynn as a player and would love to see him in a more traditional formation.
McDermott more than just a target man in fairness he’s a seriously skilful & wristy player
Can play inside or at 12
A 2 man ff line is made for players like Glynn breaking into space in the corners or feeding off either McDermott or Murphy
No all ireland medals given out in April
very disappointed league final
Tipp never really at races from the halfway point of the first half before the goals started flying .thought tipp would have made a better fist of it young McCarty had a quite day
Some house hold names coming off the bench for cork today they’ll take beating
Tipp conceding the puck out to Cork here too, can't understand why teams are doing it, it doesn't work anymore teams have worked it out.
If a rebel rising doesn't wake up our own county board nothing will. They'll surely make up some ground on our All Ireland haul
And you'll never really get to see the best of Glynn in a 2 man inside line either.
I might have been over the top to say it was Derek Mcgrath hurling but it is hurling with the hand break on and we will be found out for it I'd say. Hopefully not as there is talent in that team. Mcdermott and Murphy are good hurlers but are not suited to play in a two man full forward line.
I think most teams have a free man at the back these days some might be more extreme and have a 7th defender etc but usually the cb is always sitting back closer to the d the centre forward is roving across the half forward line or dropping deep a midfielder sits into the cb position or picks up the centre forward
It’s not called a sweeper but that’s essentially what it is
Who exactly has Declan hannon marked in the last 7 years when he was forced to mark someone last year he was cleaned out particularly against cork
I’d call j conlon a free man sweeper Clare won the all Ireland last year
Would tend to agree, over the years there hasn't been many all irelands won by teams playing an out and out sweeper. Limerick, Cork and Clare play the game in the most effective way currently. All about volume of shots nowadays and try force teams to hit big numbers to beat you
Cork and Clare proved last year that the game has moved on from the sweeper. With quick puck outs and shooting from distance and good use of the ball there is no need for a full out out sweeper imo.
Signed off here months ago but just had to reply to this most sensible post, spot on. Kinda, dammed if you do, dammed if you don't with a particular few posters here.
ye but I think our muppets in charge made a balls up last year with the Springsteen concert and had to cough up home venue if so Offaly wouldn’t have to honour a home venue for us this time?
Maybe so. Hopefully as another poster suggested the team who tops the group get's home advantage which would make sense.
You would think that should be the case but it wasn't last year as we topped our group but had to go to Tullamore for the semi.
Pretty sure we were only in tullamore last year because of Bruce and should of been at home
I assume there's a home and away arrangement in place( as there is with other Leinster based teams for knockout games prior to finals). We played them in the quarters in '22 in the Park so we had to go to Tullamore last year. As i said i'm making an assumption so i may be wrong.
I presume the teams who top the group get home venue for the semi final.
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Why would we be definitely meeting in the park, I don’t think that was sorted last year just a cock up on our part. I hope I’m wrong
After the last 20 years of man on man hurling and going backwards doing it, some people here are criticising a management team for dropping a man back and trying something different especially when it looks like he has the players to do it.
Do we want to take steps forward or back?
I'll guarantee you most of these players will be better equipped to make the step up to senior squad than many of their predecessors who are unable to work the ball through the lines.
Personally I'm absolutely delighted to see a KK underage team using a sweeper which actually can be more offensive than defensive.
To mention Derek McGrath is absolute nonsense. He would play with 2 or 3 forwards at times so the comparison is poor in my eyes.
Thought it was a decent performance yesterday. The problem that arises now though is that we have five and a half weeks to the semi final which more than likely will be against the losers of Tuesday nights match in Ballinasloe (between Galway and Offaly), who will have played a quarter final the week before.
Personally I hope Galway win that game and we get Offaly in the semis because it would definitely be in the Park. Based on the results down in Munster so far there doesn't seem to be an obvious standout team. Offaly will probably be favourites to win it out but the issue they are going to face is the fact that come the knockout phase the Senior championship will also be happening and they will have a number of lads double jobbing. Also Adam Screeney hasn't played at all this year and if they were missing him he would be a huge loss.
The minutes silence for Robert Shore was a nice thing to do and it was great to see his grandson Michael Brennan score 1.2👌
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