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Russia - threadbanned users in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,949 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Hopefully they are delivered in time to take advantage of the Czech sourced shells.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,587 ✭✭✭zv2


    I'm a bit iffy about the nose but the rest of his face is uncannily similar. Looks a bit like Hannibal Lecter too.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,539 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Their heads would explode if ISIS launch a terror attack in the US. And it's proven Putin is now in charge of this version of ISIS.

    That's not baseball or basketball or whatever US sport ..man!!

    Edit: Where would that leave Donald Trump? Donald Trump friend of ISIS.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,560 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Ukraine into the euros. As much as I like Iceland, and I do, this is great news for a country that needs a lift.



  • Posts: 753 ✭✭✭ Grayson Bewildered Attic


    No, I didn't.

    But Putin is, as I say, 71-years old and has suddenly launched this invasion.

    It's reasonable to ask whether Putin wants a war with the West before he inevitably expires.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,560 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Ah yes. Sarah Ashton-Cirillo. That world renowned terrorism expert. Case closed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    A brief history lesson.

    Lukashenko hates Putin, and even more since 2020 when the Belarusian dictator had to beg Putin for help in dealing with civil protests after the rigged presidential election. The hatred has a long history though. Putin stole the throne of Russia from under Lukashenko in 2000s; the whole idea of the Russia-Belarus union in the end of 1990s was Lukashenko's idea to get into a joint leadership of the union state with Yeltsin and assume the sole leadership when Yeltsin inevitably dies. Lukashenko was touring Russian cities, getting various officials and governors on his side. And then this nobody appears from nowhere and suddenly Lukashenko's hopes are squashed. Instead, Lukashenko had to milk the union state idea for as long as he could, to get cheaper gas and oil and the financial help from Russia. And with the war on, Lukashenko's life isn't worth much, Putin can top him anytime if a more suitable alternative is found.

    I think that, at the moment, Lukashenko would be really glad if Putin just died or got deposed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,794 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    New Black Sea Fleet Commander is having a rough week.

    What's he lost?

    3 landing ships

    Intelligence ship

    Airfield with 3 fighter planes

    Command Centre

    Communication centre


    I miss anything?

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭amandstu




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 877 ✭✭✭mikewest


    I miss anything?

    Week isn't half done yet, relax....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,101 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    It's a real shame he's not 81. Lives a healthy lifestyle and will be eating the best of food with the best health care. Like the male version of the queen. Hopefully he's been stressed every day for the last 2 year's of this war because stress is a killer. One thing I'm pretty confident of, this war will be still in full swing in another 2 year's.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 251 ✭✭Roald Dahl


    This type of nonsense has a long history with these clowns.

    After Deutschland 83 came out I watched the Channel 4 documentary Able Archer 1983 The Brink of Apocalypse, which shows the paranoia that brought the world to the brink of World War III.

    It's a good watch.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,587 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,787 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,587 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,933 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Oh I agree but we still came a lot closer to nuclear Armageddon during the cold war than the current situation. I just think it's good to have a bit of perspective.

    The US was at Defcon 2 during the Bay of Pigs/Cuban Missile Crisis episode. Castro was literally writing to Khrushchev urging them to hit the US with a first strike as Cuba was about to be invaded. The US had B52s in the air loaded with nuclear weapons ready to go.

    Defcon 2 is the last step before nuclear war. It's never been at that level again since 1962 thankfully.

    Never say never and all that, but I still think it's highly improbable. Hope not to be proved wrong (!)

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    @[Deleted User] @o1s1n I think we came even closer to or on a par with Bay of Pigs potential nuclear Armageddon during the early 80s

    Most Americans are unaware that in 1983, in the midst of President Ronald Reagan’s first term, the world came close to nuclear Armageddon. The 1983 incident was at least as dangerous as the Cuban Missile face-off in October 1962. Yet the 1983 scare remains largely unknown and unexamined

    Great new series on NETFLIX at the moment about all this called "Turning Point: The Bomb and the Cold War" .. well worth a look. Its right up to current with war in UKRAINE included ( each episode starts with footage from inside Ukraine ). It also covers the 1983 incident

    https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/turning-point-bomb-cold-war-release-date-trailer-news

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    But you're missing or ignoring the critical part as already outlined by others: there is no "first" here; any launch will be detected by the other side, who'll have adequate time to launch their own missiles in retaliation before they get hit - hence the assured part of the MAD acronym. There's simply no guarantee in this world you could launch your own missiles without immediate and at least an proportional response in kind.

    And that's leaving aside the slight inconvenience of your nuclear winters, societal collapse, decades of mass radioactive contamination, industrial levels of death and follow-on illness or cancers destroying the population who "lived" through it.

    Look I get we're all just shooting the shít here but at least acknowledge the insane levels of apocalyptic risk any "minor" nuclear launch would cause - this frankly daft rationale that nuclear escalation even is a rationale in the first place. If London was nuked, Ireland's people would die in the following years, in all likelihood.

    Then you have mad stories like that of Vasily Arkhipov, whose sole voice of dissent was the single reason we didn't head into an nuclear war. And only because a launch had to be unanimous decision. In many other universes the CUban Missile Crisis went hot and Earth nothing but a cinder now...

    By then, there had been no contact from Moscow for a number of days, and although the B-59's crew had been picking up U.S. civilian radio broadcasts earlier on, the submarine was too deep to monitor any radio traffic, as it was busy trying to hide from its American pursuers. Those on board did not know whether war had broken out or not.[6][7] The captain of the submarine, Valentin Grigoryevich Savitsky, decided that a war might already have started and wanted to launch a T-5 nuclear torpedo.[8]

    Unlike other Soviet submarines armed with the "special weapon", where only the captain and the political officer were required to authorize a nuclear launch, three officers on board the B-59 were required to authorize the launch because Arkhipov was also the chief of staff of the brigade (not the commander as is often incorrectly reported, who was in fact Captain First Rank Vasili Naumovich Agafonov).[9][10] The three men were Captain Savitsky, Political Officer Ivan Semyonovich Maslennikov, and Executive Officer Arkhipov. An argument broke out among the three of them, with only Arkhipov against the launch.[11]


    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭ColemanY2K


    its hard to know if it'll still be going on in 2 years time. more and more examples of rare armour are appearing near the front like the lagoda hit with an fpv this week. it was 1 of only 5 produced and meant to ferry kremlin leadership around in a nuclear fallout, what the hell was this doing in ukraine??? this rare example along with a multitude of others (e.g. the chinese golf carts) hint at the possibility the russians are having issues sourcing APC's.

    putin can conscript as many as he wants but if he doesn't have a way to ferry troops to and around the front line then the russians won't be advancing far if at all over the summer.

    🌞 7.79kWp PV System. Comprised of 4.92kWp Tilting Ground Mount + 2.87kWp @ 27°, azimuth 180°, West Waterford 🌞



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,207 ✭✭✭✭Danzy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,784 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Ok, you're right about the missile launches they would be detected but nowadays that would not be the first strike method. It would come by stealth bombers and low level cruise type missiles undetected until the moment of impact. I agree that many would die anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,933 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    "Turning Point: The Bomb and the Cold War" is a fantastic watch isn't it? It's actually where I heard that bit of info about Castro writing to Khrushchev re the potential for a first strike if Cuba was invaded.

    I tell you this because I believe that the imperialists' aggressiveness makes them extremely dangerous, and that if they manage to carry out an invasion of Cuba -- a brutal act in violation of universal and moral law -- then that would be the moment to eliminate this danger forever, in an act of the most legitimate self-defense. However harsh and terrible the solution, there would be no other.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    Yip @o1s1n .. great series, really well done. I have 3 episodes still left to watch, im taking my time with them rather than binge watch. I really like the Ukraine footage at the start of each episode .. as in it is professionally done and makes the situation there even more real.

    Speaking of realness - I watched that show on BBC monday evening called UKRAINE - Enemy in the woods. Real close up reality .. troops wore body cams to film this at the front lines. This is the kind of thing that should be shown to lots of people who are just not getting whats going on in Ukraine




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,083 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    Watched Ukraine: Enemy in the Woods last night, it was really brilliant. The courage and the humanity of the soldiers was very touching. Everyone should watch it, especially fckheads arguing against giving them weapons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,127 ✭✭✭jmreire


    He needs Putins support to prevent another Maidan on at his front door, while trying to play the neutral deal maker. Another election thief and illegal presidency on the brink.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,127 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Spreading more murder and mayhem, but pay attention to the last paragraph regarding the health of some of Putins leading lights...

    Post edited by jmreire on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,587 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,127 ✭✭✭jmreire


    It would explain why Putin refused to act on the US advisory....because he already knew what was going to happen, and why the "perpetrators" had such an easy time both getting to the theatre, entering it and carrying out the plan, while the police response took 1.5 hrs to arrive, and again the so-called perps got clean away out of Moscow..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,587 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



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