What's your local charging for a pint now?

irish_goat

My cousin took his ma and da to the Grand Central Hotel for a drink while they were up visiting in Belfast last weekend. A pint of Whitewater IPA was £10 (€11.65). Surely the priciest pint on the island by quite a margin.

Geuze

irish_goat wrote: »

My cousin took his ma and da to the Grand Central Hotel for a drink while they were up visiting in Belfast last weekend. A pint of Whitewater IPA was £10 (€11.65). Surely the priciest pint on the island by quite a margin.

That's odd, the website says 5.00 for three different draught pints, and 5.50 for bottles


https://www.grandcentralhotelbelfast.com/grand-cafe/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2019/07/GCH-Grand-Cafe_A4-Drinks-Menu-Jun-19_HR2.pdf


Maybe they were in this observatory?

https://www.grandcentralhotelbelfast.com/observatory/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2021/05/HH-OBSERVATORY-BAR-MENU-MAY-2021.pdf


Beer 500ml there is GBP 8.00

thegills

Ballina Killaloe. Local bars rounded all pints to €5 when it was takeway only. Now Guinness @â;‚¬5, Lagers @ €5.50 & Crafts @ €6+. Food went up 15-20% last summer and is still at that.

irish_goat

Geuze wrote: »

Maybe they were in this observatory?

https://www.grandcentralhotelbelfast.com/observatory/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2021/05/HH-OBSERVATORY-BAR-MENU-MAY-2021.pdf


Beer 500ml there is GBP 8.00

I think it was the Observatory Pale Ale they had.

L1011

3.90 Guinness 4.00 everything else on draught. Most craft cans 4.00. Extremely rural Donegal so not the most comparable pricing!

tayto lover

Dundalk publicans seem to have all got rid of Tuborg.
They probably got a good deal from Carlsberg or Heineken etc ie a certain number of free kegs to stop selling Tuborg.
Tuborg used to be around €3.80 to €4 and was very popular at 5 pints for €20 or less.
Just more greed from the publicans who used to have a Wailing Wall at the Market Square when closed.

BeerNut

Tuborg and Carlsberg are the same company, both sold here by Diageo, with Tuborg as the arbitrarily cheaper one and Carlsberg the more expensive "premium" beer. I would say the decision to remove it was Diageo's, not the pubs'.

sligojoek

Before lockdown, my local had Tuborg and Carlsberg at 3.50 and 4.50 respectively. I drank both and failed to see why Carlsberg was worth a euro more. I normally drink Guinness so maybe I'm missing something.

I can see the cynical move by Diageo. "They'll be so glad to get a pint, they'll pay anything for it so let's cancel the Tuborg"

A lot of the cheapo drinkers won't be going to the pub as much any more now that they've changed habits.

FileNotFound

I wonder has MUP made Tuborg just not worth carrying anymore.

The brand in can form will be finished by MUP so might be an executive decision to drop any impacted brands.

BeerNut

sligojoek wrote: »

I drank both and failed to see why Carlsberg was worth a euro more.

Did you think Mads Mikkelsen makes TV ads for free?

Sleeper12

Paid 7 euro for pint of larger in the Morgan Hotel over the weekend. I don't believe I have ever paid that much anywhere in Ireland before

Quackster

€4.40 for Murphy's in McCarthy's in Kenmare last week. Only pub I've imbibed in so far.

And I have to say, they were the tastiest pints of Murphy's I've sunk in my entire life!

thesandeman

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Paid 7 euro for pint of larger in the Morgan Hotel over the weekend. I don't believe I have ever paid that much anywhere in Ireland before

At least you got a big pint.

Francie Barrett

irish_goat wrote: »

My cousin took his ma and da to the Grand Central Hotel for a drink while they were up visiting in Belfast last weekend. A pint of Whitewater IPA was £10 (€11.65). Surely the priciest pint on the island by quite a margin.

Belfast has gotten shocking expensive. My son was saying he went to a place called the Dirty Onion the other week and paid £5.60 for a pint.

My local just outside Galway city put their Guinness up to €4.60 from €4.40.

L1011

There was a pub in Belfast putting up something on Facebook about their pints still being cheap at "only" £4.60 (5.37) for a Guinness, this being apparently very, very cheap for Belfast.

poisonated

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Paid 7 euro for pint of larger in the Morgan Hotel over the weekend. I don't believe I have ever paid that much anywhere in Ireland before

But sure they have to pay all the musicians....oh wait...

jakiah

L1011 wrote: »

There was a pub in Belfast putting up something on Facebook about their pints still being cheap at "only" £4.60 (5.37) for a Guinness, this being apparently very, very cheap for Belfast.

Seems cheap to me?

L1011

Very Very Cheap in Dublin, pre-pandemic, would be in excess of a euro cheaper than that.

twowheelsonly

garrettod wrote: »

Hi,

I think quite a lot of pubs are benefiting from financial support / incentives from Diagio etc.

Didn't Diagio announce something like $100m to be used to help support pubs, a little while back, to include €14m for Irish pubs - that's a lot of free kegs?

I'm sure that other big brewers are also offering supports.

Its also no coincidence that almost all of the outdoor seating areas have heavy sponsorhip from Guinness, Heiniken, Corona etc.

There was some grant funding made available to help pay for outdoor facilities, when food is sold - with grants of up to €4,000 available. I think there may have been additional grant supports and Covid - 19 relief supports announced seperately, for wet pubs, that can't open yet.

I'm not convinced that the majority of pubs have more staff on - after all, if we follow the logic above, there are far less covers, so why have more staff serving less customers? Most pubs already had table service staff, often pay time students etc, so okay, maybe a couple more in some places, but won't they be on low wages, and hoping for tips?

I also think that many of the publicans are continuing to benefit from things like tax warehousing, so they are essentially interest free loans from the taxman. They previously would have availed of wage supports etc.

So, having considered all of the above, plus the fact that most of the nation are going to be trying to make up for lost time, so likely to be in the pubs as much as possible, so do the pubs really need to be pushing their prices up?

Oh, I forgot to mention, most of the city pubs make a Gross Margin of about 50%, increasing to between 60%-70% for those that also sell food. That's why you rarely hear of a publican going broke!

Add to all that the fact that most pubs were or are on the Covid Restrictions Support Scheme - something they won't mention !!

It was dependent on previous turnover but a bar local to me was on the top rate so was getting €5k a week - €20k a month - for staying closed. His staff were all on PUP so all he had to pay out from the 5k was regular overheads such as electricity/heating. AFAIK (and I stand to be corrected on this...) rates were suspended for the duration. He was laughing about it himself, thought it was great !!!

I haven't been out for a pint since March 7th last year so have no idea what the prices are like locally now

Geuze

twowheelsonly wrote: »

AFAIK (and I stand to be corrected on this...) rates were suspended for the duration. He was laughing about it himself, thought it was great !!!

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Correct, there is a rates waiver.

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/3ac02-support-for-businesses-impacted-by-covid-19-through-the-commercial-rates-waiver/

Geuze

L1011 wrote: »

3.90 Guinness 4.00 everything else on draught. Most craft cans 4.00. Extremely rural Donegal so not the most comparable pricing!

I was in the Olde Glen bar in Glen last year, north of Letterkenny, on back road to Carrigart.

Very small village, but I don't recall Guinness being 3.90.

Okay, fair enough, it's more like a food-driven pub, than a typical rural bar.

I've just realised, I haven't bought a pint in a bar since last August...would anyone have thought that 2 years ago?
Anyways...I'm off to Tayto Park Tomo... staying in a hotel so will treat myself to a pint or 2...will I need a second mortgage?

antimatterx

Fowlers in Malahide is charging €6 for Heineken and €6.20 for Bulmers. These were both about €5.80 before Covid. Harry Byrnes in Clontarf was charging €6 for a Heineken.

It's very cheeky for 6 quid to be the standard price for a pint in Dublin, especially outside the CC. Our tax money funded these pubs for more than a year, and now they're getting stuck in.

Geuze

antimatterx wrote: »

It's very cheeky for 6 quid to be the standard price for a pint in Dublin, especially outside the CC. Our tax money funded these pubs for more than a year, and no they're getting stuck in.

Yes, I wonder is the scale of CRSS payments well known to the general public?

Black Sheep

Geuze wrote: »

I was in the Olde Glen bar in Glen last year, north of Letterkenny, on back road to Carrigart.

Very small village, but I don't recall Guinness being 3.90.

Okay, fair enough, it's more like a food-driven pub, than a typical rural bar.

There’s a top chef in there, he’s part of a zoom dinner club thing that’s just kicking off, set up by the guy who’s the chef in Liath. So yeah, not your normal local in Donegal.

A pint is 6.50 in the Boathouse restaurant in Killybegs. Again, it’s to do with the setting.

Sheep Shagger

Paid €5.40 for a Guinness in the Step Inn today (Dublin 18).

Roxxers

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117588507#Comment_117588507

they get taxed on the crss , so ain't as good as it sounds

It’s very Irish, the hotels are at the same craic too. One hand held out looking for public support and the other rummaging around in your back pocket.

topmanamillion

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117617189#Comment_117617189

They`d have been taxed on profits from takings anyway.

Any business that has wages covered and are essentially being paid to keep their door shut aren`t badly off. These price hikes are simply pubs/restaurants and hotels gouging their customers.

Its across the board though. My dentists popped an E18 "Covid safety tariff" on the cost of a filling. During lockdown you had to stand outside the door (regardless of the weather) and all that was provided was hand gel. I`m at a loss to see where an E18 charge comes out of that. The best I could do is not return there and I'd suggest others do the same with any other business trying to similarly gouge.

garrettod

Absolutely right - take you business elsewhere!