What's your local charging for a pint now?

enda1

I'll never quite understand people saying that a pint is expensive in Ireland, and then comparing the price with Poland or something as proof.

Average prices from this thread look to be for a pint of Guinness let's say €4.50 country price and €5.50 city price.
Price needs normalisation to 500ml for comparison with the continent so that comes to
Country €3.96, City €4.84

Countries with a similar standing to Ireland in terms of income and wealth are Denmark, Sweden, Belgium, France, England, Italy (and probably others)

I've lived in 4 of these other countries.

Italy price for a "pint" which is from 400 to 500ml is usually around €5
France in the countryside, a demi (250ml) is from €2.2 to €2.4 with a "pint" being the double so like €4.60. No big difference in most city prices (though the choice in beer grows massively from the maybe 2 you'll find on draught in the country) compared to this with in-fact it being more likely that you can find an offer from 6-8pm or whatever for a pint at €4 maybe (more often €5). Then prices go back to €5/6/7
Belgium is cheaper to be fair than Dublin with a Jupiler being €4.00 to €4.50 a pint (no one buys pints though, the 250ml serving size is perfect).
England varies a lot from very cheep ****holes at £2 to standard London prices more like £5 (€2.05 to €5.13 / 500ml)

Denmark and Sweden are way more expensive. The lad talking about Irish prices being in the realm of Oslo/Copenhagen/Stockholm prices etc. is talking out of his hoop. Also their servings are usually 400ml so dont forget to multiply the price by 1.42 to get to an equivalent pint price.

jakiah

Great post. Im having a right chuckle at the lads saying they'll abandon the pub becuase pints are nearly a fiver.

Geuze

All reasonable points.

I will add that in Franconia in the last few years I have found 50cl for 2.10-2.30.

I have paid 3.50/3.75 in Paris at maybe 9pm in Happy Hour.

500m away, at 11pm, I have paid 8.00.

Davexirl

I was in Grogans last week, €5.80 a Guinness and €6.20 a Heineken.

jakiah

I dont get the fixation on the price of the liquid, thats not what you are buying when drinking a beer in the pub. If its only the liquid you want buy cans and drink them at home. If a pint is 5 quid and you drink 4 or 5 of them over the course of a couple of hours, your bill will come to 20-25 quid, which is good value for an evening out and compares favourably with other entertainment options.

Geuze

Spoons on Camden street will be open in two months, great to have the option of 3 euro pints in that area.

jakiah

I will be giving that Brexit loving freaks establishments a miss myself.

Allinall

Geuze wrote: »

Spoons on Camden street will be open in two months, great to have the option of 3 euro pints in that area.

Don't think you'll have a hope of €3 pints there.

jakiah

Allinall wrote: »

Don't think you'll have a hope of €3 pints there.

Why wouldnt you?

Allinall

jakiah wrote: »

Why wouldnt you?

They'll sell all the pints they can pull at a higher price point.

Once they're cheaper than their cheapest neighbour, that's all that counts.

It's their well honed model.

jakiah

But sure they are already selling €3 pints elsewhere in the city

machaseh

Allinall wrote: »

They'll sell all the pints they can pull at a higher price point.

Once they're cheaper than their cheapest neighbour, that's all that counts.

It's their well honed model.

I would seriously doubt that. I don't think whetherspoons is going to charge a fiver for a pint that you cna get for 3 quid at the Silver Penny wetherspoons in abbey street.

jakiah

machaseh wrote: »

I would seriously doubt that. I don't think whetherspoons is going to charge a fiver for a pint that you cna get for 3 quid at the Silver Penny wetherspoons in abbey street.

Judging by this thread some lads would walk to Abbey St on hot coals to save a euro or two per pint

Panthro

jakiah wrote: »

Judging by this thread some lads would walk to Abbey St on hot coals to save a euro or two per pint

Cos after 6 pints you'd be saving up to 12quid.
Beans on toast.

BeerNut

Allinall wrote: »

They'll sell all the pints they can pull at a higher price point.

Once they're cheaper than their cheapest neighbour, that's all that counts.

It's their well honed model.

It's absolutely not their model. JDW is run like a supermarket, not a pub. They'll charge similar prices for Camden Street pints as elsewhere in Dublin the same way that Tesco charges similar prices in its Camden Street branch as elsewhere in Dublin.

Allinall

BeerNut wrote: »

It's absolutely not their model. JDW is run like a supermarket, not a pub. They'll charge similar prices for Camden Street pints as elsewhere in Dublin the same way that Tesco charges similar prices in its Camden Street branch as elsewhere in Dublin.

Supermarkets have different price points depending on the location of the store.

Pints in Wetherspoon's, Leicester Square are significantly higher than Wetherspoon's in Tottenham.

BeerNut

Allinall wrote: »

Supermarkets have different price points depending on the location of the store.

Pints in Wetherspoon's, Leicester Square are significantly higher than Wetherspoon's in Tottenham.

"Significantly" is doing quite a bit of heavy lifting there. My point is that the pints in Keavon's Port will be priced based on the Wetherspoon pint-pricing scale, not benchmarked against other pubs on Camden Street. There was a similar discussion here before JDW opened in Blackrock and Dún Laogaire too.

Allinall

BeerNut wrote: »

"Significantly" is doing quite a bit of heavy lifting there. My point is that the pints in Keavon's Port will be priced based on the Wetherspoon pint-pricing scale, not benchmarked against other pubs on Camden Street. There was a similar discussion here before JDW opened in Blackrock and Dún Laogaire too.

Because JDW buy centrally, their selling price is based on two criteria:

a) Income of their target customers
b) Prices of local competition.

This is from working with them in the UK.

L1011

Local competition on Camden Street would include The Snug if it reopens, the second cheapest pints I've ever had in Dublin outside JDW

jakiah

Allinall wrote: »

Supermarkets have different price points depending on the location of the store.

Pints in Wetherspoon's, Leicester Square are significantly higher than Wetherspoon's in Tottenham.

Those are probably what, an hour away from each other on the tube? Central Dublin is too small for price differences like that given how price sensitive Irish drinkers appear to be

Geuze

jakiah wrote: »

I will be giving that Brexit loving freaks establishments a miss myself.

I don't agree with Tim Martin on Brexit, but I do like his business model.

Buy in bulk, and pass the savings on to customers.

Offer basic food at reasonable prices.

Good value tea and coffee, with free refills.

2021 prices Carlow/Cork: tea/coffee = 1.25 plus free refills

afatbollix

Anyone complaining over a 5er extra spent after 6 pints over a night reminds me of my father in law who drives 40 miles to save 3p a litre on petrol.


Be free lads you saved enough over the past year to enjoy yourselves a few pints with mates in the pub.

tayto lover

Publicans are a very greedy breed of people.

L1011

Geuze wrote: »

I don't agree with Tim Martin on Brexit, but I do like his business model.

Including:

Pay staff buttons

Campaign to destroy your countries economy based on the idea that it might benefit you

Cry to the media when it turns out it won't

?

Black Sheep

L1011 wrote: »

Including:

Pay staff buttons

Campaign to destroy your countries economy based on the idea that it might benefit you

Cry to the media when it turns out it won't

?

Lots of trendy Irish cafes, restaurants and bars have better reputations than Weatherspoons but are also paying their (mainly immigrant) staff minimum wage. I was a little shocked in some instances, where to read some of them in the Irish Times you’d assume they were really progressive in their in-house practices.

One popular third wave coffee company recently advertised for a managerial role paying a princely 13 euro an hour. Honestly, Weatherspoons probably offers a better career trajectory for a hard worker...

Totally agree with your other points though.

sligojoek

In a pub in Nenagh yesterday evening.
Guinness 5.20

Lager 5.80

A lad came in and ordered a large bottle of cider. The owner asked him for 6.50. he was told to shove it up his hole.

Geuze

sligojoek wrote: »

In a pub in Nenagh yesterday evening.
Guinness 5.20

Lager 5.80

Are you sure about this?

I don't know Nenagh, but I presume it is a typical medium sized town.

So Guinness should be 4.30-4.60?


My father paid 4.90 for Coors lager in a town in Leinster last night.

sligojoek

Geuze wrote: »

Are you sure about this?

I don't know Nenagh, but I presume it is a typical medium sized town.

So Guinness should be 4.30-4.60?


My father paid 4.90 for Coors lager in a town in Leinster last night.

That was just one pub in particular.
Guinness and smithwicks were both 4.50 anywhere else we went

Geuze

L1011 wrote: »

Including:

Pay staff buttons

Campaign to destroy your countries economy based on the idea that it might benefit you

Cry to the media when it turns out it won't

?

See page 100.

https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/~/media/files/pdf-documents/wetherspoon-news/wetherspoon-news-summer-2021-sp.pdf


GBP 428 million in free shares and bonuses paid to employees since 2006
83% paid to pub staff


"It’s probably true to say that no one earns a vast fortune from these
schemes. However, as far as the company is aware, Wetherspoon
consistently pays a bigger percentage of its profits to its employees,
by way of bonuses and free shares, than any other large pub/
restaurant company or retailer – more even, in the last five years,
than John Lewis – a company owned by its employees."

"Since the share scheme was introduced, Wetherspoon has awarded
20.6 million shares to employees – approximately 16 per cent of all
shares in existence today."


I am not here to defend this company, and no doubt they may well pay min wage to new staff at the lowest grade.

Geuze

Anyways, back on topic.

I paid 4.40 last night for Smithwick's.

Same price as 18 months ago.

Powers = 4.50.