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The Eternals (MCU)

  • 24-05-2021 2:23pm
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    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭


    The first trailer for the Chloe Zhao directed MCU film has popped up; looks intriguing, Kumail Nanjiani as a superhero is going to take some getting used to though



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,951 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    looks very promising !!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,716 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Definitely the first MCU film in quite a while I'm genuinely curious to check out - Zhao is such a mad choice to direct it, I'm fascinated to find out how it works (or doesn't).

    Not much to go on from the trailer - definitely further evidence that Zhao and Richards know how to shoot a landscape (certainly looks a bit more grounded than some of what we've seen from the series, at least until the neon magic **** begins), but whether that naturalistic style can gel successfully with the CG smorgasbord is something a brief trailer can't quite communicate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 520 ✭✭✭Full_Circle_81


    It looks a lot more visually interesting than I was expecting, and I keep forgetting what a crazy stacked cast this is.
    I just wish Marvel felt secure enough (at this stage) in the unquestionable draw of their Marvel franchise juggernaut to not end every single trailer with an uncomfortably unfunny "joke", as it kind of ruined the almost awe-inspiring feel of the rest of the trailer.

    And I'm delighted that Gemma Chan has been given a second shot at a Marvel role after being positively wasted in Captain Marvel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,666 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    The comments section is full of "Thanos: Am I a joke to you?"

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    So the rumour(?) has been that Marvel would often taken the set-pieces away from directors; where anytime there was anything logistically complex or action-oriented, they shot with a second unit then filled in the rest in post-production.

    I wonder if it'll be the same here; with such a distinctly grounded director, it could be intensely jarring if Zhao's style got lampshaded every time a requisite action scene kicked off. I do like the look of those landscapes and smaller scenes though, while that gloating ship reminded me of Arrival somewhat.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭corkie


    For anyone else, like me, who is not well read up in MCU.



    Marvel’s Eternals Trailer Breakdown: Who Are The New Characters of the MCU?
    Marvel's Eternals trailer might set up the future of the MCU with a host of new (and immensely powerful) characters.



    Interesting cast choices.

    marvel-eternals-trailer-volcano.png?w=1024


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Think this will be the first Marvel film I go in pretty much completely blind to the characters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,249 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    I'm kinda worried. It feels very close to a "Inhumans" kind of vibe to it and we all remember what a disaster of a series that was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭Zhane


    flazio wrote: »
    I'm kinda worried. It feels very close to a "Inhumans" kind of vibe to it and we all remember what a disaster of a series that was.

    To be fair, Kevin Feige wanted that to die. He knew it wouldn’t work, so that’s why it was demoted from movie to series.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Rob Stark and Jon Snow reunion

    Was Gemma Khan in another Marvel movie?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Rob Stark and Jon Snow reunion

    Was Gemma Khan in another Marvel movie?

    Chan was in Captain Marvel, as one of Jude Law's Kree squad.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Not mad about that joke at the end. Marvel tend to duck the more difficult conversations when it comes to their God like heroes by making them "relatable" - I was hoping this would be different, but instead it seems more of the usual.

    Disappointing given the potential here to tell a new and exciting story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,279 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Think this will be the first Marvel film I go in pretty much completely blind to the characters.

    I was going to reply that I was the same for Dr. Strange, but as I kept typing I realised that I've been lucky (unlucky childhood maybe?!) insofar as aside from Iron Man, Hulk and Spiderman, I didn't have much, if any knowledge of the MCU. Firsts for me were Guardians, Dr. Strange, basically all bad guys including Thanos, Ant-Man, the extras in Iron Man (bad guys, robots such as Ultron, etc). So I'll be the same for this. Never heard of them before.

    But, I'm not gone on that trailer, and I lately just don't like Angelina Jolies face. I'll keep an open mind like I always do for MCU films, but unlike nearly all the other ones, this doesn't excite me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,986 ✭✭✭OptimusTractor


    Not mad about that joke at the end. Marvel tend to duck the more difficult conversations when it comes to their God like heroes by making them "relatable" - I was hoping this would be different, but instead it seems more of the usual.

    Disappointing given the potential here to tell a new and exciting story.

    At least he didn't ask if anyone wanted more shawarma.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    flazio wrote: »
    I'm kinda worried. It feels very close to a "Inhumans" kind of vibe to it and we all remember what a disaster of a series that was.

    That's probably not a coincidence; both properties were created by Jack Kirby (who also created DC's New Gods which threads a very similarly needle there too)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,666 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    looks like cut scenes from an Ancient Aliens episode

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,028 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    That left me a bit cold being honest..


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Rob Stark and Jon Snow reunion

    Was Gemma Khan in another Marvel movie?

    She has a small role in Captain Marvel as a membee of the Kree team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I don't think there's anything in that that would make me interested in seeing the film if it wasn't Marvel. I guess that's why they have so many names and even the Stark brother reunion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭irishguitarlad


    Looks fairly bad.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    Has mega-flop written all over it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,898 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    sabat wrote: »
    Has mega-flop written all over it.

    Was thinking the same.

    You never know but my impression since Endgame with Wandavision and Falcon/Winter Soldier is that the MCU is on a downward trajectory for all sorts of reasons. I'm looking forward to Loki though.


    As for the trailer, bland pretty much sums it up.

    The fact they are trying to introduce characters that would be regarded as fringe at best under the hilariously bad explanation that they simply "never interfered" before this says something about the conundrum the franchise now has if that is a big part of the "back story" here. I mean the world nearly got destroyed how many times? How convenient and lazy.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Wouldn't be too quick to predict a flop. Let's not suddenly pretend we all knew who Rocket Racoon and Groot were, the first time the Guardians trailer kicked in. Now, It did have the benefit of having a very charismatic, eccentric tone compared with that of Eternals, but still. I'm sure plenty were like "WTF is this nonsense with a talking tree?"


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    I also don't think it's fair to complain about the laziness of trying to introduce characters who could've interfered before, people (myself included) will happily accept that the individual Avengers are usually busy during each other's solo movie, surely this is just the nature of the beast when it comes to an interwined universe.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭de5p0i1er


    It has the potential to be really good or really bad. I'll go see it when it's released and hope for the best.

    There's a great cast and an Oscar winning director plus Kevin Feige has a great track record after Guardians of the Galaxy I'm pretty sure they can make good movies out of lesser known characters.

    I just hope people give it a chance before posting reviews.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,552 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    Re watched the first Guardians trailer, not much there either. Second trailer was a bit better to show what it'd end up being. I think since then they've tried to show off more of each films USP within the superhero movies, even if some times it's just an elevator pitch like summary of John Hughes with superheroes.

    This seems a bit too generic, maybe not to try to alienate anyone beforehand. If Guardians of the Galaxy 1 had a trailer more akin to vol 2 then it might have done so.

    Wouldn't be saying an Oscar win means anything to a big spectacle superhero movie being good.

    This isn't really a good vs bad thing but I think for Disney the possibility that this won't get a Chinese release is probably the biggest worry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    sabat wrote: »
    Has mega-flop written all over it.

    If this wasn't a Marvel property, it would be a huge flop. It probably wouldn't even be made.

    MCU movies won't flop because people want to see where the ongoing story goes next. If this was entirely disconnected from any ongoing or future arcs it might, but until then I'd say the worst it could do would be around $600m worldwide.

    That being said I think their next phase is tricky because it lacks charismatic, well-known leads (RDJ, Evans, Boseman), you can't really top the threat of Thanos and making the Disney+ shows required viewing for the overall story will alienate more casual viewers. I think MCU peaked with Endgame, but even then it'll do good business for the entire decade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,666 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Varik wrote: »
    Re watched the first Guardians trailer, not much there either. Second trailer was a bit better to show what it'd end up being. I think since then they've tried to show off more of each films USP within the superhero movies, even if some times it's just an elevator pitch like summary of John Hughes with superheroes.

    This seems a bit too generic, maybe not to try to alienate anyone beforehand. If Guardians of the Galaxy 1 had a trailer more akin to vol 2 then it might have done so.

    Wouldn't be saying an Oscar win means anything to a big spectacle superhero movie being good.

    This isn't really a good vs bad thing but I think for Disney the possibility that this won't get a Chinese release is probably the biggest worry.

    With Guardians you could tell it was going to be popular as a family film and a fun film to boot, this film isnt going to be a must see family film.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,205 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    Found myself losing interest in that teaser and its only 2 mins long.

    Wouldn't expect this to be a hit.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,526 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    The trailer has hit 77 million views within the 1st 24hrs of it's online release. A new MCU record during the pandemic.

    https://screenrant.com/eternals-movie-trailer-views-marvel-record/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    I will give it a chance to show a real trailer and not a bland teaser before I call it as I found this had nothing appealing what so ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    I will give it a chance to show a real trailer and not a bland teaser before I call it

    More people should be doing this rather than been so quick to write in off, i thought the trailer was ok


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    First trailers tend to be "mood" promotional pieces these days; I've no doubt any subsequent ones will be way more plot focused (sometimes to a fault, revealing every story beat). As a taster though, it worked for me, especially as it seemed to be emphasising Zhao's use of naturalistic landcapes currently seen in Nomadland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,882 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Where were these lads when Thanos was wrecking havoc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    This will satisfactorily answer that, and any similar questions, in full.... 😑




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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Good job those eye beams are golden, otherwise the DC Legal Department might have been on the phone quick-smart 😁

    I can sorta see the clash between Zhao's style and the preVis action scenes, but am still down for this. I see the November 5 release - do we know if this is going to be another cinema/digital parallel release?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,666 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    looks like a CW show filmed in a few "quarries"

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,882 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Big improvement on the last trailer

    This whole universe is going to become very confusing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,859 ✭✭✭SteM


    Hasn't been decided yet but with Johansson law suit pending they will be thinking twice about a parallel release imo.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,100 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    I can't get beyond the absurdity of the excuse given as to what these particular superheroes were up to when half the universe was in danger of dying. Akin to "Sorry, we were told to wait for a future CGI monster threat".

    Zero interest in this!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I dunno, if I'm reading the story right, it sounds like the events of End-Game were the catalyst to make these Eternals realise their non-interventionist ideology wasn't a great idea. It at least gives a natural sense of conflict between its set of characters, and a better excuse than the usual "Why didn't the Avengers show up?" line of thinking.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    My understanding and I could be wrong is that they have a similar oath to the Watcher in What If, are sworn not to intervene unless the Deviants start causing trouble. It doesn't bother me particularly, I think it's just going to be something we accept like why didn't the other Avengers show up for the other solo movies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,209 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I'd add that Thanos' snap likely happened before the Eternals had time to become aware of it, plus then the Avengers did kill Thanos and the stones were destroyed. Then 5 years later the day the Avengers went back, got the stones, brought everyone back, and then the big attack at Avengers mansion, the Eternals probably also didn't know about it until after the fact. They're all in hiding throughout the world and also seem very separated from each other.

    It makes sense that they weren't involved in either Thanos attack, but are using it as a way to say "We need to stop hiding in the background and become more proactive, because we could have helped stop the snap if we were involved"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,877 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    The trailers and TV spots really aren't selling this to me at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Haven't done any tv spots and the trailers seem fine for me so far.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Harry Styles as Thanos brother Eros



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Chloé Zhao, during the press junket, is saying this film will feature the MCUs first sex scene. How raunchy it'll be given it's a PG13 flick is unclear but it was only when mentioned that it reminded ...yeah. the MCU is a fairly inert and sexless creature as romances go. Gamora / Starlord has been as hot as it gets.

    She has also claimed to have chatted to Marvel/Disney about not censoring the openly LGBT superheroes in this, though honestly I'd be shocked if those scenes aren't conveniently extraneous to the plot, and thus perfect for foreign market pruning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,249 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    In a movie perhaps, Luke Cage might have something to say about getting "coffee" in the extended MCU.



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