Teenagers with no value for life and no care for repercussions - **Read OP**

kapisko1PL

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

I see the guy on the bike who kicked the girl in the face has been identified on social media.

Now all you need is a complete law and judiciary reform because as far as I'm concerned nothing is going to happen. It's seriously SAD.

kapisko1PL

Ok here's what happened. Absolute JOKE. You can even see the young ones jumping into adults trying to fight them. Seriously?

https://twitter.com/enjoymalahide/status/1391130753996558342?s=19

JP Liz V1

^ Where are the parents, have they any control?

Wanderer78

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

^ Where are the parents, have they any control?

...in the pub

Thelonious Monk

I think it's gas, a few mouthy teenagers and now they're saying leafy malahide is a war zone lol.

Thelonious Monk

Wanderer78 wrote: »

...in the pub

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

^ Where are the parents, have they any control?

Did your parents monitor your every move as a teenager? Most are allowed out on their own.

It's not going to get better any time soon.

As I've pointed out in other threads, if you take let's say the 25-50 age group in Ireland:
A large proportion have never worked, will never work and have a bunch of kids.
A decent proportion are foreign, mid-high earners, and mobile enough to leave whenever. They have no political sway.
Another large proportion are foreign, far out-strip everyone else's birth rate and have higher rates of unemployment and state-support dependency.
Then there's the proportion who are Irish, have ties, work and pay for most of the rest of them. These are the people who are having fewer kids than the others who are likely to hang around when things get worse.

Wanderer78

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Did your parents monitor your every move as a teenager? Most are allowed out on their own.

ah shur i know, im only taking the pi$$, a lot of people becoming angry nowadays though

Cilldara_2000

Deleted User wrote: »

It's not going to get better any time soon.

As I've pointed out in other threads, if you take let's say the 25-50 age group in Ireland:
A large proportion have never worked, will never work and have a bunch of kids.
A decent proportion are foreign, mid-high earners, and mobile enough to leave whenever. They have no political sway.
Another large proportion are foreign, far out-strip everyone else's birth rate and have higher rates of unemployment and state-support dependency.
Then there's the proportion who are Irish, have ties, work and pay for most of the rest of them. These are the people who are having fewer kids than the others who are likely to hang around when things get worse.

Have you any sources for these wild claims?

Also, what's a large proportion?

Cilldara_2000

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

Have you any sources for these wild claims?

Also, what's a large proportion?

Which bit is a wild claim?

Cilldara_2000

Deleted User wrote: »

Which bit is a wild claim?

Without sources, all of it.

Cilldara_2000

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

Without sources, all of it.

LOL. Guessing you want a source for the colour of the sky as well?

Between this and the social housing thread it's just a perfect summation of the "right-on". They'll question everything and even when evidence is presented they'll move on and question something else. Rinse and repeat and when they have nothing left to question the reply is "Ah well so what?".

Ireland's total fertility rate is 1.75 per woman. Well below replacement. (Literally a Google will show you that)
In 2016 23% of births were to foreign-born mothers compared to 13% of the population being non-Irish. So foreign-born parents are over-represented. (https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-vsar/vitalstatisticsannualreport2016/births2016/)
About 3.5% of the population is non-EU yet they account for 8.4% of mothers of births per year.(https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-vsys/vitalstatisticsyearlysummary2019/)

The fact that non-EU migrants claim benefits at a higher rate has been posted plenty of times before, though finding it hard to track down the stat for now. The above might give ya a start though.

Is the suggestion that high-earning foreigners are likely to be more mobile also a wild claim? Because really, if we can't take simple and obvious things like that as a given then it's hard to believe you're posting in anything approaching good faith.

Cilldara_2000

Deleted User wrote: »

LOL. Guessing you want a source for the colour of the sky as well?

Between this and the social housing thread it's just a perfect summation of the "right-on". They'll question everything and even when evidence is presented they'll move on and question something else. Rinse and repeat and when they have nothing left to question the reply is "Ah well so what?".

Ireland's total fertility rate is 1.75 per woman. Well below replacement. (Literally a Google will show you that)
In 2016 23% of births were to foreign-born mothers compared to 13% of the population being non-Irish. So foreign-born parents are over-represented. (https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-vsar/vitalstatisticsannualreport2016/births2016/)
About 3.5% of the population is non-EU yet they account for 8.4% of mothers of births per year.(https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-vsys/vitalstatisticsyearlysummary2019/)

The fact that non-EU migrants claim benefits at a higher rate has been posted plenty of times before, though finding it hard to track down the stat for now. The above might give ya a start though.

Is the suggestion that high-earning foreigners are likely to be more mobile also a wild claim? Because really, if we can't take simple and obvious things like that as a given then it's hard to believe you're posting in anything approaching good faith.

Nothing here backs up the claim that "a large proportion" of the 25 to 50 age group "have never worked, will never work and have a bunch of kids".

Nor is the claim about the proportion of foreign born people in that age group addressed.

Or the claim about the proportion of foreign with high rates of unemployment etx addressed.

If we could see the proportion of these, then the last claim would be obvious.

No idea what you're on about with the right-on stuff. I haven't taken an opinion on what you've said because you haven't provided any evidence. When you do, we'll cross that bridge. Comparisons with other countries or age groups would be helpful to address the "proportions" involved.

Apparently the howth junction incident has trended outside Ireland today. The Gardai might do something now.

EddieN75

Gardai can't be seen to give these scrotes a kicking. All they can do is bring them in and a judge throws another mark against their name. Pointless

Groups of members of the public on the other hand can. Especially now since everyone has a mask in their pocket so can do so without being identified. If there are groups coming into your area form a WhatsApp group, make sure you outnumber them and organise yourselves so it looks like a retaliation. Ie let the scrotes start it.

Then kick the living bejaysus out of them. So badly that they don't dream of congregating in the same area ever again. Then disperse in different directions and close the group.

This is how they solved problems in the days before people started to run to the Gardai with every single problem.

NoLuckLarry

Sterilisation and post natal abortion, a sure fire winner to solving this problem.

Saying that if a teen acted like these scrotes towards me, the best they’d hope for is tube feeding.

voldejoie

I was out for a walk with my (heavily pregnant) sister last week and while crossing over a bridge, a gang of five or six teenage boys on bikes tried to push us out onto the road with their front wheels, and one of them pulled at my sister's bag as if he was going to drag her along by it. It was absolutely terrifying tbh and I've since found out that two of the lads were involved in what my dad has referred to as "serious machete incidents" in the last year, and all of them are the kids of local drug dealing scum who should by rights have been locked up about 20 years ago but still somehow roam free. They have no fear, and why would they? They're untouchable. :mad:

K.Flyer

EddieN75 wrote: »

Gardai can't be seen to give these scrotes a kicking. All they can do is bring them in and a judge throws another mark against their name. Pointless

Groups of members of the public on the other hand can. Especially now since everyone has a mask in their pocket so can do so without being identified. If there are groups coming into your area form a WhatsApp group, make sure you outnumber them and organise yourselves so it looks like a retaliation. Ie let the scrotes start it.

Then kick the living bejaysus out of them. So badly that they don't dream of congregating in the same area ever again. Then disperse in different directions and close the group.

This is how they solved problems in the days before people started to run to the Gardai with every single problem.

I'm old enough to remember those days and most of the fathers in the area organising themselves and it wasn't done too covertly either, very much out in the open. I was young enough at the time, but old enough to know what was going on.
Garda would ramble by the group and with a nod and a wink bid the group a quiet evening and walk on.
Trouble makers soon got the message and fcuked off elsewhere, occasionally via the nearest A/E.
Sometimes it's the only message they understand.

K.Flyer

voldejoie wrote: »

I was out for a walk with my (heavily pregnant) sister last week and while crossing over a bridge, a gang of five or six teenage boys on bikes tried to push us out onto the road with their front wheels, and one of them pulled at my sister's bag as if he was going to drag her along by it. It was absolutely terrifying tbh and I've since found out that two of the lads were involved in what my dad has referred to as "serious machete incidents" in the last year, and all of them are the kids of local drug dealing scum who should by rights have been locked up about 20 years ago but still somehow roam free. They have no fear, and why would they? They're untouchable. :mad:

Here's the thing, they are not untouchable, just the judicial system is weak and needs a serious overhauling to start scooping these feral scum up off the streets.
They are becoming more brazen, more violent and other people's lives are cheap to them.
When you watch that carry on at the train station it typifies their scumbag attitude. I wonder how proud their parents are seeing what they are up to.

EddieN75

K.Flyer wrote: »

I'm old enough to remember those days and most of the fathers in the area organising themselves and it wasn't done too covertly either, very much out in the open. I was young enough at the time, but old enough to know what was going on.
Garda would ramble by the group and with a nod and a wink bid the group a quiet evening and walk on.
Trouble makers soon got the message and fcuked off elsewhere, occasionally via the nearest A/E.
Sometimes it's the only message they understand.

Of course. These little ****e know that the Gardai won't harm them and they will be back out on the street in no time.

A large group of adult males in their faces is the solution. Any lip or resistance to move on and stay gone should met with violence.

Thelonious Monk

Have any of you started one of these gangs to give out hidings yet? You always get people fantasising over these things after certain incidents but I've yet to hear of anything being done.

tastyt

Our police and courts are an embarrassment in this country . This **** happens for one reason , there are zero serious repercussions and no fear .

Plenty of countries in Europe have huge problems but little scrotes like this just don’t get away with taking the piss out of police and are left in no uncertain terms about who runs the streets over there .

Protect your own citizens first then listen to solutions on how to stop producing so much vermin in this country in the future

Cody montana

I just saw the video earlier.

I’m pretty angry tbh.
I see they are being named on social media.
Good.

Cody montana

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's not going to get better any time soon.

As I've pointed out in other threads, if you take let's say the 25-50 age group in Ireland:
A large proportion have never worked, will never work and have a bunch of kids.
A decent proportion are foreign, mid-high earners, and mobile enough to leave whenever. They have no political sway.
Another large proportion are foreign, far out-strip everyone else's birth rate and have higher rates of unemployment and state-support dependency.
Then there's the proportion who are Irish, have ties, work and pay for most of the rest of them. These are the people who are having fewer kids than the others who are likely to hang around when things get worse.

This is one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever read on here.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Apparently the howth junction incident has trended outside Ireland today. The Gardai might do something now.

I see an investigation has been launched for optics.

**** right off ffs. Infuriating to know nothing would have happened otherwise.

That is the real issue here.

Tony EH

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Have any of you started one of these gangs to give out hidings yet? You always get people fantasising over these things after certain incidents but I've yet to hear of anything being done.

Big dick talk is always the same.

"Shur, I'd do dat, I'd do dis..."

Sunny Disposition

The incident in Cork last year where a young fella committed a stabbing and ended up getting a mere 18 months should have provoked outrage, but nothing changed. It’s a great time and place to be a scumbg.

Tell me how

EddieN75 wrote: »

Of course. These little ****e know that the Gardai won't harm them and they will be back out on the street in no time.

A large group of adult males in their faces is the solution. Any lip or resistance to move on and stay gone should met with violence.

Ludicrous suggestion.

Mike Murdock

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Have any of you started one of these gangs to give out hidings yet? You always get people fantasising over these things after certain incidents but I've yet to hear of anything being done.

Reality is, for all the Charles Bronson talk on here, if you did give one of these lads a hiding and put him in A&E, you'd end up like this chap.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/man-who-fractured-boy-s-skull-with-hurley-gets-extra-two-years-in-jail-1.4048012

Giving judgment in the three-judge court, Mr Justice Patrick McCarthy said “it need not be said… that no one can take the law into one’s own hands.”

He said the proper approach would have been to speak to the boys in a peaceful manner, and if that didn’t work, to call the gardaí.

kapisko1PL

Mike Murdock wrote: »

Reality is, for all the Charles Bronson talk on here, if you did give one of these lads a hiding and put him in A&E, you'd end up like this chap.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/man-who-fractured-boy-s-skull-with-hurley-gets-extra-two-years-in-jail-1.4048012

"Excuse me boys, could you kindly not damage my car and not hit me please. Thanks in advance!"

I just cannot imagine how this could have worked. This judge is delusional.

Strumms

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

The incident in Cork last year where a young fella committed a stabbing and ended up getting a mere 18 months should have provoked outrage, but nothing changed. It’s a great time and place to be a scumbg.

So stab somebody and be out in a year or just over.



https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40194798.html

Judge says all the right things but in terms of imposing a sentence not even close to ballpark of what he should have imposed...

Comes a situation like this where regardless of age or any mitigating factor when a violent and unprovoked assault occurs in the manner of this one... it’s perpetrator is simply a violent and dangerous piece of shît..

One that the community needs protection from.... age should not come into it... should have been looking at a 3 year sentence...minimum.

Strumms

kapisko1PL wrote: »

"Excuse me boys, could you kindly not damage my car and not hit me please. Thanks in advance!"

I just cannot imagine how this could have worked. This judge is delusional.

Living in cloud cuckoo land, delusional.... the judge should have a carer and a p45 he is that far gone....

A judge wants and expects a person to open their front door , confront a mob who are violently damaging your property and start asking them not to ?

Seriously, this country. :rolleyes:

K.Flyer

Strumms wrote: »

So stab somebody and be out in a year or just over.



https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40194798.html

Judge says all the right things but in terms of imposing a sentence not even close to ballpark of what he should have imposed...

Comes a situation like this where regardless of age or any mitigating factor when a violent and unprovoked assault occurs in the manner of this one... it’s perpetrator is simply a violent and dangerous piece of shît..

One that the community needs protection from.... age should not come into it... should have been looking at a 3 year sentence...minimum.

What's the betting he does less than half that...

18 months is no deterrent for such low life behaviour. He will come out the little hero to his mates having done his rite of passage by serving a bit of time.
A Minimum of 5 years needs to be served for that..

Real Donald Trump

Strumms wrote: »

Living in cloud cuckoo land, delusional.... the judge should have a carer and a p45 he is that far gone....

A judge wants and expects a person to open their front door , confront a mob who are violently damaging your property and start asking them not to ?

Seriously, this country. :rolleyes:

Judges living in ivory towers are just equally bad as these thugs. Too bad they'll never get a taste of what ordinary folk have to deal with, you can be sure if they did they would soon change their tune. Scumbags the lot off them!

Tony EH

Tony EH wrote: »

Big dick talk is always the same.

"Shur, I'd do dat, I'd do dis..."

Dunno if much/anything came of it, but it did kick off in Limerick a couple of years ago, after a woman was killed, and then it resurfaced again targetting general scumbags:

https://www.thejournal.ie/limerick-pensioner-murder-vigilante-3767422-Dec2017/


https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/289607/vigilante-group-threatens-to-deliver-justice-to-criminals-in-limerick.html


I believe it flared up in the news again more recently (2019 i think) but cant find a link.

skimpydoo

Two words Martin Nolan.

Tell me how

Tell me how wrote: »

Ludicrous suggestion.

Not that ludicrous really. In Vietnam, this problem doesn't exist because communities don't stand for it. I wouldn't and haven't felt any fear walking anywhere in Hanoi at any time of day or night.

Recently, a couple of teenagers were hassling women around my area and men started patrolling the area and caught them and got the authorities involved, with visits to the families from the ward bosses making sure it stopped.

Seems like it's just accepted as part of Irish life that these scrotes run free. In Eyre Square, I got hit round the head by a few 14-year-old girls one night and couldn't do a thing because a big gang of lads were standing there waiting for me to react. Eyre Square like.. So much time and money put into renovating it and then scum are allowed to loiter and intimidate normal people.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Can confirm this story is after spreading and is still carry momentum

It's in the UK, Europe and North America now

Well done lads, you're ****ing the country altogether

kapisko1PL

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

Can confirm this story is after spreading and is still carry momentum

It's in the UK, Europe and North America now

Well done lads, you're ****ing the country altogether

Can you share the links please?

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Daily mail UK

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9540677/CCTV-shows-moment-woman-pushed-rail-tracks-Dublin.html

Mirror UK

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/woman-knocked-under-train-sickening-24034251

US based website

https://newsbinding.com/news/uk-news/cctv-shows-moment-woman-pushed-on-rail-tracks-in-dublin/

European news

https://rassegnastampa.news/cctv-shows-moment-woman-pushed-on-rail-tracks-in-dublin

https://www.diazhub.com/latest-stories/cctv-shows-moment-woman-pushed-on-rail-tracks-in-dublin/amp/

https://www.nation.lk/online/cctv-shows-moment-woman-pushed-on-rail-tracks-in-dublin-79473.html

There's more going around on Twitter been shared among plenty of countries and it's been shared on different reddit forums too so it's everywhere now really

ThunbergsAreGo

Cody montana wrote: »

This is one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever read on here.

They are right about it not getting better any time soon...

Wanderer78

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote:

It's in the UK, Europe and North America now

What, they have the Internet to, ffs, who let this happen!

irishguitarlad

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

Can confirm this story is after spreading and is still carry momentum

It's in the UK, Europe and North America now

Well done lads, you're ****ing the country altogether

Why so? Is that not a good thing? It might wake the politicians up and realise that they have to fix this mess.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Apparently the howth junction incident has trended outside Ireland today. The Gardai might do something now.

I just saw the video. It is getting a lot of attention now. Had not known about it and ignored this thread as I thought it would be about usual stuff. That is a horrific incident. How she was not killed or injured is amazing. And all the girls had to run that guantlet.
I have not read thread. I suppose a lot has been said. The worst thing besides the girls accident is that all the girls were behaving as if this was something they are used to dealing with all the time

irishguitarlad

Anyone see the video of the scrotes fighting in Malahide yesterday? a few adults intervened and told them to fúck off, luckily none of the adults were attacked.

I see a high profile Dublin soccer club now linked with this incident

Mike Murdock

MikeOxsgreen wrote: »

I see a high profile Dublin soccer club now linked with this incident

A petition up to have one of the lads kicked out of the club.

Thelonious Monk

irishguitarlad wrote: »

Anyone see the video of the scrotes fighting in Malahide yesterday? a few adults intervened and told them to fúck off, luckily none of the adults were attacked.

Yeah it was on Twitter, some teenagers and handbags, people going on like it's the end of society as we know it.
It's funny how we never had rowdy teens until smartphones were invented.

EddieN75

MikeOxsgreen wrote: »

I see a high profile Dublin soccer club now linked with this incident

You can give more information if you like. You won't get in trouble. We won't tell the young lads

Infini

irishguitarlad wrote: »

Anyone see the video of the scrotes fighting in Malahide yesterday? a few adults intervened and told them to fúck off, luckily none of the adults were attacked.

They're mouthy gobshìtes but they're just smart enough to not throw a punch because if they do they no longer have an untouchable defence. There is still the right to self defence and if they hit first then the adults CAN take them down on that.