Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

Carlowgirl

Stheno wrote: »

So its ok to not follow restrictions then? Like you've been doing meeting with your friends outside?

I meet up with one at a time outdoors which is allowed. Like for a walk. That is allowed

Carlowgirl

GeorgeBailey wrote: »

Every current generation gets labelled as being weaker than the one that preceded it (while at the same time the previous generation will get blamed for the current state of the world. Go figure).

I can't believe there are still people making comparisons to war times like that's a reason for people to be grateful. The past year and a bit has been very difficult for many people in many ways. I know I myself have been in dark places at certain times through it all and have no doubt others have too. This does not equal being "soft".

Cut out the nonsense like this and you're likely to find your other arguments will get a little more support.

What I'm saying is we don't have it that bad. We can meet up with someone outside. If it was a war we would be in real danger. People can meet up with someone. They are just taking it too far throwing parties. We'll see next week after all the parties this weekend where we are at. I hope I'm wrong. Yes I understand people are lonely but it doesn't justify throwing parties. That's a basic disregard for the people that have made sacrifices. Keeping the problem going and adding to the problem. That's my point.

Stheno

Carlowgirl wrote: »

I meet up with one at a time outdoors which is allowed. Like for a walk. That is allowed

Nope that's not what you said see the quote below

I meet friends outside for a walk and food outside after.

Its only been "allowed" to meet up for non exercise purposes with one other household the past couple of weeks too! Previously it was only to exercise

stephenjmcd

Carlowgirl wrote: »

We'll see next week after all the parties this weekend where we are at.

Haven't we been hearing this for the last year continually??

As for the rest, no comment. I'd probably get a ban for responding to some of the nonsense

KanyeSouthEast

You would hope that some of the people on here are WUMs about the restrictions or else the country will never ever recover from this **** show!

stephenjmcd

Stheno wrote: »

Nope that's not what you said see the quote below



Its only been "allowed" to meet up for non exercise purposes with one other household the past couple of weeks too! Previously it was only to exercise

Everyone will justify what they do but pass remark about the wrong doing of others... covid has ensured this anyway. "The pot is calling the kettle black"

Stheno

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Everyone will justify what they do but pass remark about the wrong doing of others... covid has ensured this anyway. "The pot is calling the kettle black"

That was precisely my point

wadacrack

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1389241842873638917

Median age of cases 25, seems quite a young demographic

Oranage2

giveitholly wrote: »

That's the spirit,I reckon some people won't be happy unless we go into another lockdown in Autumn and come out and say I told you so

I really get no joy from these predictions, if anything these will hamper my 2021-2022 plans considerably, it's just the way I feel things are going

Stheno

wadacrack wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1389241842873638917

Median age of cases 25, seems quite a young demographic

78% under 45

Deeper Blue

Carlowgirl wrote: »

I meabt it's selfish having parties. The longer people are at that the longer this goes on. It is selfish

We can meet people outside. Its not like we habe to be completely isolated. There is no need for dribking parties every night. I know people that have lost their jobs but they have taken this time to learn new things and keep fit. They are not having drinking parties every night witg ten people from different houses. Why not have one or two if you have to break the restrictions. Most of these people are on the pup. They coukd use thid time for something else or meet one or two people.
I thought the lock dosn was a great opportunity to learn new hobbies. It was also a chance to slow down and relax. Not feeling under pressure to be here there and every where. It also helped me to realise who are friends and who are acquaintance. The lock down is hard on everyone but having parties isn't the answer to coming out of lock dosn. I m not talking about kids her I'm talking about people I their 30 a to 50s and bringing their kids along. Each one of them in different schools. This is happening all weekend and the figures next week are going to frightening I think. We are a very soft generation if we think cutting down or contacts and onky meeting one or two people is hard. If there was a world war we'd have to stsy home. Like people did back in the 30 s etc. Anyway I'm choosing to abide by the restrictions and that's my right.

So by that logic anything bad that ever happens to anyone is grand because "it's not a world war".

Such nonsense, just like the rest of that post.

bennyl10

Stheno wrote: »

78% under 45

So the unvaccinated

Good that’s what ya wanna see!

giveitholly

Oranage2 wrote: »

I really get no joy from these predictions, if anything these will hamper my 2021-2022 plans considerably, it's just the way I feel things are going

Suppose you look at things with a glass half empty attitude,I would be the opposite,always look at things as glass half full. If I remember rightly you live in China and want to get home to see family. Surely if you get vaccinated and so does your family here in Ireland there is no reason you couldn't come home in August-September to see them. That's the way I would be looking at things if I were in your position

blowitupref

An increase of 71 the difference in cases the last 7 days compared to the previous 7 days. No testing figures yesterday or today due to the Bank Holiday, leading into Sunday the difference was close to 9,000 more tests

AdamD

Oranage2 wrote: »

I really get no joy from these predictions, if anything these will hamper my 2021-2022 plans considerably, it's just the way I feel things are going

Things are only going one way right now and its positive

Deeper Blue

Oranage2 wrote: »

I really get no joy from these predictions, if anything these will hamper my 2021-2022 plans considerably, it's just the way I feel things are going

What do you mean "the way things are going"?

- More and more people are getting vaccinated every day
- Hospitalisations and deaths are on a downward trend

I can't understand the mindset of some people

podgeandrodge

Some people are perpetually miserable.

timsey tiger

bennyl10 wrote: »

So the unvaccinated

Good that’s what ya wanna see!

I'm guessing your glass is perpetually half empty. You need to put the smilie in if you're joking, because online it is impossible to tell.

Carlowgirl

Deeper Blue wrote: »

So by that logic anything bad that ever happens to anyone is grand because "it's not a world war".

Such nonsense, just like the rest of that post.

No it's just putting things into perspective. If people have problems with onky being able to meet one person at a time and have to have parties all the time then they have other problems and need to get some hobbies. Like go for a walk read a book. Learn something new. We have all suffered through this but it's a small price to pay to help solve the problem

GeorgeBailey

Carlowgirl wrote: »

What I'm saying is we don't have it that bad. We can meet up with someone outside. If it was a war we would be in real danger. People can meet up with someone. They are just taking it too far throwing parties. We'll see next week after all the parties this weekend where we are at. I hope I'm wrong. Yes I understand people are lonely but it doesn't justify throwing parties. That's a basic disregard for the people that have made sacrifices. Keeping the problem going and adding to the problem. That's my point.

I guess. So people complaining about parties should stop being so soft because at least there isn't a war.

ShineOn7

New cases: 453

Denotified cases:
Total cases: 250,290
New deaths: 0
Denotified deaths:
Total deaths: 4,906


Of the 453 cases notified today

• Male: 203
• Female: 250
• Under 45 years old: 353 (78%)
• Median age: 25

Vaccination Numbers - Up to Saturday 1st May

• Total doses: 1,591,888 (+19,109)
• First dose: 1,146,562 (+15,604)
• Second: 445,326 (+3,505)

Vaccine Type Breakdowns

• Pfizer/BioNTech: 1,138,738 (+7,740) (41% of vaccines)
• Moderna: 79,300 (+1,502) (8% of vaccines)
• AstraZeneca: 373,859 (+9,857) (52% of vaccines)
• Janssen: 0 (+0)

Cohort 1 (Residents aged 65+ in LTCF)

• Total in group: ~105,000
• Total vaccines: 194,073 (+21)
• Total with first vaccine: 109,343 (+20)
• Total with second vaccine: 84,730 (+1)
• 104% of total half vaccinated (+0%)
• 81% of total fully vaccinated (+0%)

Cohort 2 (Frontline Healthcare Workers)

• Total in group: ~250,000
• Total vaccines: 351,841 (+144)
• Total with first vaccine: 255,962 (+135)
• Total with second vaccine: 95,879 (+9)
• 102% of total half vaccinated (+0%)
• 38% of total fully vaccinated (+0%)

Cohort 3 (People 70+)

• Total in group: 482,327
• Total vaccines: 714,122 (+3,978)
• Total with first vaccine: 455,164 (+698)
• Total with second vaccine: 258,958 (+3,280)
• 94% of total half vaccinated (+0%)
• 54% of total fully vaccinated (+1%)

Cohort 4 (People aged 16-69 and at very high risk of severe Covid-19)

• Total in group: ~250,000
• Total vaccines: 206,903 (+5,381)
• Total with first vaccine: 201,233 (+5,170)
• Total with second vaccine: 5,670 (211)
• 80% of total half vaccinated (+2%)
• 2.3% of total fully vaccinated (+0.3%)

Cohort 5 (All aged 60-69)

• Total in group: 417,000
• Total vaccines: 121,121 (+7,593)
• Total with first vaccine: 121,084(+7,590)
• Total with second vaccine: 37 (+3)
• 29% of total half vaccinated (+2%)
• 0% of total fully vaccinated

Cohort 7 (People aved 16-69 who have an underlying conditions that puts them at high risk of severe disease and death)

• Total in group: ~350,000
• Total vaccines: 1,330 (+14)
• Total with first vaccine: 1,328 (+13)
• Total with second vaccine: 2 (+1)
• 0.4% of total half vaccinated (+0%)
• 0% of total fully vaccinated (+0%)

Other "Uncoded" Cohort

• Total: 2,498
• First Dose: 2,448
• Second Dose: 50

Hospital stats as of 8 am today

• Hospitalised: 129 (+2)
• ICU: 40 (-1)
• New admissions past 24 hours: 5

Jim_Hodge

ShineOn7 wrote: »

New cases: 453

Denotified cases:
Total cases: 250,290
New deaths: 0
Denotified deaths:
Total deaths: 4,906


Of the 453 cases notified today

• Male: 203
• Female: 250
• Under 45 years old: 353 (78%)
• Median age: 25

Vaccination Numbers - Up to Saturday 1st May

• Total doses: 1,591,888 (+19,109)
• First dose: 1,146,562 (+15,604)
• Second: 445,326 (+3,505)

Vaccine Type Breakdowns

• Pfizer/BioNTech: 1,138,738 (+7,740) (41% of vaccines)
• Moderna: 79,300 (+1,502) (8% of vaccines)
• AstraZeneca: 373,859 (+9,857) (52% of vaccines)
• Janssen: 0 (+0)

Cohort 1 (Residents aged 65+ in LTCF)

• Total in group: ~105,000
• Total vaccines: 194,073 (+21)
• Total with first vaccine: 109,343 (+20)
• Total with second vaccine: 84,730 (+1)
• 104% of total half vaccinated (+0%)
• 81% of total fully vaccinated (+0%)

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How can more than 100% be vaccinated?

Arturo Delgado

bennyl10 wrote: »

So the unvaccinated

Good that’s what ya wanna see!

Exactly. The elderly and vulnerable are being protected. The young are getting it, but not needing hospital treatment, if any treatment at all... Hospital numbers are down to low numbers and decreasing. We're grand. Open it up.

ShineOn7

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

How can more than 100% be vaccinated?

Newly recruited HCWs is what I'm guessing

bennyl10

timsey tiger wrote: »

I'm guessing your glass is perpetually half empty. You need to put the smilie in if you're joking, because online it is impossible to tell.

What?

Younger people those in the main being infected it was we expect to see and it shows vaccines are working and protecting the most vulnerable.

This shouldn’t lead to an increase in seriously ill or those in hospital.

Jim_Hodge

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

How can more than 100% be vaccinated?

Underestimated the denominator

iamwhoiam

Arturo Delgado wrote: »

Exactly. The elderly and vulnerable are being protected. The young are getting it, but not needing hospital treatment, if any treatment at all... Hospital numbers are down to low numbers and decreasing. We're grand. Open it up.

The vulnerable are still waiting in Cohort 7 .

ShineOn7

iamwhoiam wrote: »

The vulnerable are still waiting in Cohort 7 .

This needs to be a pinned post, because "The vulnerable are vaccinated though" is the new "It's only the flu" around here

And the same dismal intellect is shown in both

Jim_Hodge

Arturo Delgado wrote: »

Exactly. The elderly and vulnerable are being protected. The young are getting it, but not needing hospital treatment, if any treatment at all... Hospital numbers are down to low numbers and decreasing. We're grand. Open it up.

This was covered ad infinitum a few days ago. The more vulnerable are not all vaccinated yet. We're getting there and we're starting to open up.

Deeper Blue

Carlowgirl wrote: »

No it's just putting things into perspective. If people have problems with onky being able to meet one person at a time and have to have parties all the time then they have other problems and need to get some hobbies. Like go for a walk read a book. Learn something new. We have all suffered through this but it's a small price to pay to help solve the problem

Tell all the people that are unemployed or those whose businesses are in tatters that it's "a small price to pay". Such condescending drivel.

Carlowgirl

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Seeing as you're dishing out chapter and verse, I'll confide in you a perennial classic: "Judge not lest ye be judged".

Well I can be judged on a lot of things but at least I can say I didbt contribute to the problem and made sacrifices even though my own mental health suffered at times. On a positive note hopefully if we can keep the numbers down over the next few weeks hopefully the vaccine will stop any further rises

Jim_Hodge

Deeper Blue wrote: »

Tell all the people that are unemployed or those whose businesses are in tatters that it's "a small price to pay". Such condescending drivel.

Let's put this back to what she was referring to. It was somebody having house parties nearby while she is trying to do her bit by sticking to the regulations. Whose actions will get society up and running the quickest?

She didn't close, or call for the closing of, any employment.
The small price referred to was keeping to the restrictions by not having indoor parties and reducing close contacts - not the closing of the economy.


Maybe read the exchange in full.

Deeper Blue

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Maybe read the exchange in full.

I already have and my point stands.

But thanks for the tip.

timsey tiger

bennyl10 wrote: »

What?

Younger people those in the main being infected it was we expect to see and it shows vaccines are working and protecting the most vulnerable.

This shouldn’t lead to an increase in seriously ill or those in hospital.

Just so, but it was not apparent from your post that this is what you meant.

AlekSmart

Just looking through the HSE's information for some light reading.

https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/pages/hospitals-icu--testing

Total Tests Completed
4,512,912
Total Positive Tests
257,613
Total Positive Rate (%)
5.7

Secondary to this....

Total Cases Hospitalised
14,268
Total Cases Requiring ICU
1,510
Healthcare Worker Cases
28,663

We're still on the Up....

https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/er/pme/populationandmigrationestimatesapril2020/

Population 2020 - 4,977,400

Sadly,Deaths continue to plague our species...

https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/fr/fr-ucd2020/analysisofunderlyingcauseofdeathdataincludingcovid-19januarytooctober2020/

January 2020 - October 2020

Total deaths registered 22,416

COVID-19 Related Deaths
COVID-19 was the fourth UCOD and accounts for 1,462 deaths or just over 6.5% of total deaths in the year to date
COVID-19 was:
the fifth highest UCOD in the 65 – 79 and the 80 and over age categories
the sixth highest for the 50 – 64 age group
the eight highest in the 25 – 49 age group
not in the top 10 UCOD for the under 25 age group

Perhaps it's time to attract those who've existed,and often worked for the past 14 months,and NOT developed any symptoms,NOT taken any special precautions save for occasionally masking up in shops or where otherwise legally required to do so.

Where do the c.90% of presumably healthy,people with presumably effective natural immune systems,who have NOT come to the attention of Covid fit into all of this.

Do these people count in any of this ?

Lumen

wut?

Beasty

Threads merged

odyssey06

AlekSmart wrote: »

Perhaps it's time to attract those who've existed

It's time to attract people who've existed???
Maybe work out what's wrong with that sentence and you'll work out what's wrong with whatever bogus theory you're trying to peddle here.

You're attempting to 'other' anyone without a 'healthy natural immune system', whatever the **** that means.
What's an un-natural immune system???

Zebra3

Great to see those vaccination numbers flying up.

Kudos to all those involved.

PopTarts

Zebra3 wrote: »

Great to see those vaccination numbers flying up.

Kudos to all those involved.

We should easily hit 2 million first doses by end of month I reckon.

podgeandrodge

ShineOn7 wrote: »

.............................
Vaccine Type Breakdowns

• Pfizer/BioNTech: 1,138,738 (+7,740) (41% of vaccines)
• Moderna: 79,300 (+1,502) (8% of vaccines)
• AstraZeneca: 373,859 (+9,857) (52% of vaccines)
• Janssen: 0 (+0)

....................

How is Astra at 52% with only 373k vaccines compared to Pfizer/BionTech at 41% with 1.13m vaccines?

timsey tiger

Deleted User wrote: »

Underestimated the denominator

Maybe somebody that has to ask that question might no understand your answer.

Carlowgirl

Deeper Blue wrote: »

Tell all the people that are unemployed or those whose businesses are in tatters that it's "a small price to pay". Such condescending drivel.

So they are entitled to party are they?they are getting paid

Carlowgirl

Carlowgirl wrote: »

So they are entitled to party are they?

People are entitled to live on their own terms as they see fit. All the condemnation in the world won't stop them.

This pointing of fingers reveals an unpleasant aspect to Irish society, "they're on PUP so they have no right to enjoy themselves".

Lucas Hood

podgeandrodge wrote: »

How is Astra at 52% with only 373k vaccines compared to Pfizer/BionTech at 41% with 1.13m vaccines?

Az accounts for 52% of vaccines on Saturday.

Carlowgirl

[Deleted User] wrote: »

People are entitled to live on their own terms as they see fit. All the condemnation in the world won't stop them.

This pointing of fingers reveals an unpleasant aspect to Irish society, "they're on PUP so they have no right to enjoy themselves".

There're restrictions in place for a reason. Some people didn't abide by any restrictions. No we are not all entitled to do as we like unfortunately. I wish we were but we can't

Deeper Blue

Carlowgirl wrote: »

So they are entitled to party are they?they are getting paid

I mentioned nothing about people partying

Jim_Hodge

Deeper Blue wrote: »

I mentioned nothing about people partying

This is the point made earlier. The people partying is what the discussion is about.

You're at cross purposes with the subject.

FintanMcluskey

Zebra3 wrote: »

Great to see those vaccination numbers flying up.

Kudos to all those involved.

It’s flying up now. Mighty stuff

The danger has passed

Realistically cohort 7 could cocoon themselves for the few weeks it would take to get the vaccine and for it to take effect if the country reopened in the morning.

iamwhoiam

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

It’s flying up now. Mighty stuff

The danger has passed

Realistically cohort 7 could cocoon themselves for the few weeks it would take to get the vaccine and for it to take effect if the country reopened in the morning.

Cocoon themselves ? These are people who work , frontline workers , carers , bus drivers , retail workers etc etc living breathing ordinary folk ?