What's the point of Paul Murphy?

Exceltrup

Or any of AAA/PBP/RISE. Seeing them in the Dail, they remind of that kid who kept shouting stuff out in class thinking that they were funny, whilst in reality they're just an inconvenience for everybody.

ILoveYourVibes

He doesn't really accomplish anything. He keeps dividing from other leftist parties making the left weaker.

He keeps going on about how they pull together but i mean having both PBP and RISE makes no sense they should join together.

biko

Exceltrup wrote: »

Seeing them in the Dail, they remind of that kid who kept shouting stuff out in class thinking that they were funny, whilst in reality they're just an inconvenience for everybody.

I'm pretty sure Paul identifies as male so you can say him/he.

A towering gowl.

ILoveYourVibes

He is actually fairly rude online on twitter. Even to other leftests.

mikemac2

Was funny to hear him on Pat Kenny show saying Willie Walsh knew nothing about flying.

He was an Aer Lingus pilot sure and Murphy had no answer when that was pointed out

He reduces everything to worker and bosses

KevRossi

Fancies himself as a Padraig Pearse type of character? This is from his Twitter bio.

Exceltrup

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

He is actually fairly rude online on twitter. Even to other leftests.

I've heard this alright. He'll also reply to comments disagreeing with him on Facebook, and immediatley block the user from replying to give the impression that his supreme knowledge has outwitted his opponent.

KevRossi

I've met him a few times working on community based projects. He tends to show up, has a rant, blames the usual suspects, offers no practical solutions or help. Himself and especially SF and to a lesser extent PBP will look at what you're doing and if they think there's political mileage in it they'll bandwag0n it and attempt to take over it. if they see no use in it they leave you alone (which is what you want).

Useless in 3.5 years as an MEP, just loves to have himself pictured with a megaphone in his hand.

Allinall

Himself and Richard Boyd-Barret are actually the same person.

They have never been in the same room together.

Fact.

ILoveYourVibes

He doesn't seem to be able to make alliances with people in power who could maybe help him with his agenda ..nor does he seem to think this is important.

Some of his causes are simply publicity rallies to the left ...there is no point to some of his causes.

The charges against him brought by Joan Bruton were totally bogus. And unjustified what she did was so very very wrong. I had hopes for him at that point. I feel very let down by him though.

ILoveYourVibes

Exceltrup wrote: »

I've heard this alright. He'll also reply to comments disagreeing with him on Facebook, and immediatley block the user from replying to give the impression that his supreme knowledge has outwitted his opponent.

Yep ...and he edits his own comments ..if it was obvious he was being down right nasty ...i get the impression he doesn't like women.

I actually get the impression he hates other LEFTEST parties and politicians more than he hates FF or FG ..

nullzero

Looking forward to the next rebrand as the Cretin Party, a little on the nose but ho hum.

Allinall

Allinall wrote: »

Himself and Richard Boyd-Barret are actually the same person.

They have never been in the same room together.

Fact.

Total waffle.

Murphy is a total chancer, Boyd-Barrett is one of the better members of Dáil Éireann.

Exceltrup

Allinall wrote: »

Himself and Richard Boyd-Barret are actually the same person.

They have never been in the same room together.

Fact.

2 champagne socialist, privately educated posh boys, pontificating to the public about the plight of the working class. May as well be the same person.

Exceltrup

Deleted User wrote: »

Total waffle.

Murphy is a total chancer, Boyd-Barrett is one of the better members of Dáil Éireann.

What has he actually achieved?

ILoveYourVibes

KevRossi wrote: »

I've met him a few times working on community based projects. He tends to show up, has a rant, blames the usual suspects, offers no practical solutions or help. Himself and especially SF and to a lesser extent PBP will look at what you're doing and if they think there's political mileage in it they'll bandwag0n it and attempt to take over it. if they see no use in it they leave you alone (which is what you want).

Useless in 3.5 years as an MEP, just loves to have himself pictured with a megaphone in his hand.

PBP will absolutely soap box ANY protest or organized political gathering and stuff their own leafets and pr packages down people's throat's.

Even if they had ZERO to do with the organization of it or very few people who came were to do with PBP.


They got called out for it once at an anti racism protest about a guy who had been attacked when they tried to go on a rant about unemployment and let that issue take over the entire time.

All you could see in photos of the event were THEIR posters literally everywhere with 'Unemployment vote pbp ' or whatever.

You would have SERIOUSLY thought it was a rally for them canvassing. But they had nothing to do with the event.

The actual organizers were pissed. PBP even got an interview with press there to cover the event. It was all we PBP ...are standing against this .no other party is ..we PBP came here today.

Remember when Paul Murphy told poor people not to pay their property tax, and then those people got brought to court and got shafted and Paul disappeared. Then a couple of years later Paul was caught paying his property tax.

I 'member.

Allinall

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

He doesn't seem to be able to make alliances with people in power who could maybe help him with his agenda ..nor does he seem to think this is important.

Some of his causes are simply publicity rallies to the left ...there is no point to some of his causes.

The charges against him brought by Joan Bruton were totally bogus. And unjustified what she did was so very very wrong. I had hopes for him at that point. I feel very let down by him though.

Just for the record.

Joan Burton didn’t bring any charges.

It was the DPP who brought the charges against the six men.

scheister

I think Paul is more interested in sitting their ranting and pointing out the issue then ever actually doing anything to fix the issue. It is alot easier to say something needs to be fixed when you aint the one that will have to fix it.

Bubbaclaus

He is inheritently unlikeable. It appears that his voter base is slowly finding this out too, based on this trend of first preference votes in Dublin South West:

2014: 27.2%
2017: 13.4%
2020: 6.6%

If he doesn't stop that trend then his seat will be gone at the next election.

ILoveYourVibes

Exceltrup wrote: »

What has he actually achieved?

He asked a question in the dail ...about PantiGate!

That is it .........literally.

His protests discredited real objections to austerity measures they were outlandish and his political theater made them seem on the fringe when they weren't. Austerity really hurt people. But it suits HIM to been seen as on the fringe it gets him votes. Every couple of months he invents this new cause he is needed for. Which usually has nothing to do with he people he is elected to represent and they probably don't fully understand it either.

Exceltrup

scheister wrote: »

I think Paul is more interested in sitting their ranting and pointing out the issue then ever actually doing anything to fix the issue. It is alot easier to say something needs to be fixed when you aint the one that will have to fix it.

Exactly. He's like a child who keeps blowing fart noises during class. Got old quickly, and is just irritating now.

Swaine

Exceltrup wrote: »

What has he actually achieved?

What has any of them achieved?

MM heavily involved in the crisis of 2008, 13 years later we make him leader of the country. Now presiding over a disaster effort of Covid19.

Eoghan Murphy resigned during the week, he failed miserably with his housing brief, off he rides into the sunset with 70k and a nice pension.

Education minister Norma Foley is the worst I've ever seen, but it's ok because she's a woman. In no other sector would her level of incompetence be ignored.

Murphy and BB are tools but we do need these people to call out the government for their mistakes. SF are just perpetual losers who are afraid of actually being elected to power. Cowards.

I see sheep

Exceltrup wrote: »

Or any of AAA/PBP/RISE. Seeing them in the Dail, they remind of that kid who kept shouting stuff out in class thinking that they were funny, whilst in reality they're just an inconvenience for everybody.

What's the point of you?

ILoveYourVibes

scheister wrote: »

I think Paul is more interested in sitting their ranting and pointing out the issue then ever actually doing anything to fix the issue. It is alot easier to say something needs to be fixed when you aint the one that will have to fix it.

He is not even interested in pointing out the issue. He likes to make up fake issues.

Like this thing CETA. It doesn't really give business any more right to sue the govt than they have now already. He keeps going on it does. It just streamlines the courts it doesn't give them courts they don't have already. And he should KNOW this ..he has a law degree supposedly. THere already are investors courts. And ceta refers to the paris agreement so ..its bound by that too. So it can't be used to strike down actions the govt takes to implement paris. And most govts won't EVEN implement paris properly. anway.

He used it as a rallying cry for the left imo. To drum up his supporters. Its how he keeps the leftest voter active motivated and on his side. But he does nothing for them.

He gains way more as an activist from these causes than anyone. Its his career its helping.

Plus he DOESNT mention what will happen in the EU if ireland says no.

ILoveYourVibes

Swaine wrote: »

Murphy and BB are tools but we do need these people to call out the government for their mistakes.

They really are not doing that.

ILoveYourVibes

I see sheep wrote: »

What's the point of you?

He isn't a politician though is he?

What is the point of voting for Paul Murphy?

ILoveYourVibes

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

He isn't a politician though is he?

What is the point of voting for Paul Murphy?

"To stick it to the man" by voting for a privileged white male.

Swaine

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

He isn't a politician though is he?

He is, though. What's the point in voting for Leo Varadkar?

ILoveYourVibes

Deleted User wrote: »

"To stick it to the man" by voting for a privileged white male.

lol

ILoveYourVibes

Swaine wrote: »

He is, though. What's the point in voting for Leo Varadkar?

No ..i mean what is the point of you ..you asked the poster ..that poster is not a politician.


Leo Varadkar ...the point of voting for him is simple.

He has power and can change things. He will get in. He has a working relationship with the main other parties. And could have a working relationship with SF ..or any party ..if he chose.

Its not a wasted vote. Its a vote against FF ..and its a more powerful vote against FF than voting for Paul Murphy tbh isn't it?

Paul murphy can't keep FF out of power. FG ...well not now of course but there is the hope ...that they could.

That is prob why people vote FG ...

LOOK AT IT THIS WAY ...can you imagine paul murphy trying to organize the vaccine rollout? He would shipping off our supply to third world countries before we had our population done.

Swaine

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

No ..i mean what is the point of you ..you asked the poster ..that poster is not a politician.


Leo Varadkar ...the point of voting for him is simple.

He has power and can change things. He will get in. He has a working relationship with the main other parties. And could have a working relationship with SF ..or any party ..if he chose.

Its not a wasted vote. Its a vote against FF ..and its a more powerful vote against FF than voting for Paul Murphy tbh isn't it?

Paul murphy can't keep FF out of power. FG ...well not now of course but there is the hope ...that they could.

That is prob why people vote FG ...

LOOK AT IT THIS WAY ...can you imagine paul murphy trying to organize the vaccine rollout? He would shipping off our supply to third world countries before we had our population done.

Lol.. what a load of crap.

Maybe if you voted for Murphy he'll get into power.

ILoveYourVibes

Swaine wrote: »

Lol.. what a load of crap.

Maybe if you voted for Murphy he'll get into power.

I have voted for him twice ...NEVER again.

And this will make you laugh...I VOTED GREEN TOO! LOL im am dumb!

Galwayguy35

I agree with nothing Murphy or Boyd Barrett say but I could listen to them in a debate.

Brid Smith, Coppinger and Mick Barry on the other hand are insufferable fools and its baffling how they get even one vote.

Fann Linn

Exceltrup wrote: »

What has he actually achieved?

The end of water charges.
He'd get a transfer from me if I was in his electoral area for that alone.

ILoveYourVibes

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

I agree with nothing Murphy or Boyd Barrett say but I could listen to them in a debate.

Brid Smith, Coppinger and Mick Barry on the other hand are insufferable fools and its baffling how they get even one vote.

Coppinger sounds genuine and i have heard she is nice.

And she speaks up for women which i respect. But a lot of the time when talking about industry policy she has no clue what she is talking about.

She wanted to out law COMPLETELY zero hr contracts. It kind of showed she knew nothing about them. Yeah for SOME they are awful.

But for some people who only want to work a few hrs a week and want the flexibility they need them. And a lot of people who have these contracts are students etc. Or moms.

Obv some people were struggling with them. But coppinger didn't understand the nuance.

Her idea of what she wanted to do wasn't in touch with reality.

Legislation to stop workers being forced ONTO zero contract hrs was what was brought in. Or something to that effect ..a blanket ban would have been disastrous for a lot of people.

ILoveYourVibes

Fann Linn wrote: »

The end of water charges.
He'd get a transfer from me if I was in his electoral area for that alone.

He didn't end that. It was the middle class refusing to pay them that did that. And most of them don't like him.

Stihl waters

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

.i get the impression he doesn't like women.

..

Much and all as I don't like the prick either you're going to have to quantify that statement with a little backup, people can't just throw the gender/sexist/racist card everytime theres a debate about someone they dont like, it's the first and last refuge of those incapable of balanced debate

Jinglejangle69

Fann Linn wrote: »

The end of water charges.
He'd get a transfer from me if I was in his electoral area for that alone.

Water charges were never ended.

Sorry to tell you.

A bit of a spoofer that preys on the protest voters.

Thank **** he gets little airtime these days.

ILoveYourVibes

Stihl waters wrote: »

Much and all as I don't like the prick either you're going to have to quantify that statement with a little backup, people can't just throw the gender/sexist/racist card everytime theres a debate about someone they dont like, it's the first and last refuge of those incapable of balanced debate

Calling female politicians names. Like 'witch'. 'Hag'. Both of which he has done.

Fann Linn

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

He didn't end that. It was the middle class refusing to pay them that did that. And most of them don't like him.

When FG, LP, FF and SF were either committed to or sitting on the fence about water charges there was only one crowd actively opposed to them and that was Murphy and his crew.
And I say that as a middle class public sector trade union tax payer.

Fann Linn

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Water charges were never ended.

Sorry to tell you.

Have you paid any, because I certainly haven't.

Jinglejangle69

Fann Linn wrote: »

Have you paid any, because I certainly haven't.

No I haven't.

But they aren't ended and will be back in the news soon.

Stihl waters

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Calling female politicians names. Like 'witch'. 'Hag'. Both of which he has done.

Ok, if that's all you've got then he's obviously a massive misogynist, off with his head

ILoveYourVibes

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

No I haven't.

But they aren't ended and will be back in the news soon.

and everyone will refuse to pay them then too

irishguitarlad

The left in Ireland have completely shat the bed during the whole covid-19 situation by asking for more restrictions constantly and pushing for zero covid which would make even more people unemployed, but hey they are for the working class;-)

ILoveYourVibes

Stihl waters wrote: »

Ok, if that's all you've got then he's obviously a massive misogynist, off with his head

If that is all I have got?

Calling women you work with witches and Hags is NOT acceptable.

Fann Linn

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

No I haven't.

But they aren't ended and will be back in the news soon.

Like a United Ireland so, sometime in the future.

Jinglejangle69

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

and everyone will refuse to pay them then too

Maybe true.