Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

growleaves

Tenger wrote: »

“Vaccine apartheid” isn’t a thing.

People are provided with a free vaccine to allow relaxation of public health restrictions. People who chose not to avail of this have made their decision and are happy to continue with those public health restrictions.

No not taking an injection doesn't mean they are happy to continue with 'public health' restrictions. Some people can't take it and some won't, that is a fact in light of which fact I say creating a two-tier society is a bad road to go down.

growleaves

[Deleted User] wrote: »

But do you think it would be unpopular in Ireland? I think it'd be popular.

By the way, I agree with you that it's a bad road to go down. It's just that I see no reason to believe it wouldn't be popular in Ireland.

I don't know. There are seemingly many people in this country who are prepared to make evil choices and many more whose inclination is 'to go with the flow' whatever that is.

The future doesn't look rosy from here.

namloc1980

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Danish fans in Amsterdam.

namloc1980

namloc1980 wrote: »

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Danish fans in Amsterdam.

They can sing and dance around! It’s like a parallel universe in comparison to here.

brickster69

gansi wrote: »

They can sing and dance around! It’s like a parallel universe in comparison to here.

A few from Ireland turned up as well.

https://twitter.com/Walbaby_Kater/status/1408525427904233481

brickster69

brickster69 wrote: »

A few from Ireland turned up as well.

https://twitter.com/Walbaby_Kater/status/1408525427904233481

Good one! Too true.

Silentcorner

gansi wrote: »

They can sing and dance around! It’s like a parallel universe in comparison to here.

As far as I can tell...we are the only country where you can't right now!

Vicxas

brickster69 wrote: »

Looks like Delta plus is taking off

https://twitter.com/UKCovid19Stats/status/1408803498683207696

How many new hospitalisations? How many of those serious?

zackory

Vicxas wrote: »

How many new hospitalisations? How many of those serious?

Hospitalisations in Ireland are increasing by 13% a day.

43 today 38 yesterday.

km79

zackory wrote: »

Hospitalisations in Ireland are increasing by 13% a day.

43 today 38 yesterday.

They fell by over 20% literally the day before. You must not have spotted that ....
No change in ICU numbers. A whopping 13 nationwide. Run for the hills . Delta will get you

Stheno

zackory wrote: »

Hospitalisations in Ireland are increasing by 13% a day.

43 today 38 yesterday.

That's one day and a Saturday

gozunda

MOR316 wrote: »

In fairness, I should have made it clearer
I was referring to NPHET and Government and the George Lees of the world saying it.
I don't recall anyone on Boards saying it in a serious manner
Enough of your Whataboutery

Ah no you were clear enough having a little go at all those you don't agree with. But no matter.

I believe you're fairly fond of using the expression "the next two weeks are crucial" all the same - especially in this thread - whether seriously or otherwise I couldn't tell ...

And tbf I think the "whataboutery" title is all your own

I've borrowed these lads - they look better here

facehugger99

namloc1980 wrote: »

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Danish fans in Amsterdam.

We're an absolute embarrassment in this country.

The most indebted nation in Europe and the most cowardly.

brickster69

Vicxas wrote: »

How many new hospitalisations? How many of those serious?

I understand it to be roughly 2000 going in per week and 1950 coming out. So roughly beds occupied are going up 50 / week in the UK. Obviously some deaths to take account of unfortunately.

namloc1980

zackory wrote: »

Hospitalisations in Ireland are increasing by 13% a day.

43 today 38 yesterday.

Nothing else for it. We need to burn the country down. Level 10 lockdowns all round and barricade people into their houses.

Deeper Blue

Another "pilot event" being held in Killarney tonight. Details below

The INEC can hold up to 4,500 people. The 200 tickets for tonight's show were sold in pods of six and had conditions attached.

Each pod was allocated a specific, staggered arrival time, and a pre-allocated table.

Facemasks have to be worn by people arriving and leaving the venue.

All concert-goers also have to provide their contact tracing details for research purposes, as well as having the Health Service Executive Covid app installed and activated on their smartphones.

Anyone who is showing Covid-19 symptoms has been asked to stay away from the event

The capacity is going to be a massive 4%. What are we going to learn from this exactly?

Absolute tripe, pure covid theatre and nothing else

namloc1980

Deeper Blue wrote: »

Another "pilot event" being held in Killarney tonight. Details below



The capacity is going to be a massive 4%. What are we going to learn from this exactly?

Absolute tripe, pure covid theatre and nothing else

Jaysus that's embarrassing. 200 people with staggered arrival times in a 4,500 capacity venue :pac: Further proof that we've lost the absolute plot in this country.

Silentcorner

The posters that have been defending all this over the last few months must be getting a little embarrassed....surely!!!!

Graham

Silentcorner wrote: »

The posters that have been defending all this over the last few months must be getting a little embarrassed....surely!!!!

I really don't get this odd obsession with projecting embarrassment, it's just bizarre.

Anyway, on. the subject of pilot events.

Minister of State Jack Chambers said the numbers attending will be scaled up further over the coming months.

“I'm confident we can build on those measures now for July, and have a much bigger return of spectators with many matches happening across the months of July and August,” he told Newstalk radio.

“People will see that scaled-up ambition when we make announcements on that in the next week or so.”

facehugger99

Silentcorner wrote: »

The posters that have been defending all this over the last few months must be getting a little embarrassed....surely!!!!

Sunk cost fallacy.

They've invested too much in it to step back and admit the absolute shambles this country has become.

Nobody would have believed this 18 months ago. It's exposed this country as a banana republic.

A couple of dozen people in hospital, all the vulnerable groups vaccinated and you can't eat a meal in a restaurant.

The HorsesMouth

Deeper Blue wrote: »

Another "pilot event" being held in Killarney tonight. Details below



The capacity is going to be a massive 4%. What are we going to learn from this exactly?

Absolute tripe, pure covid theatre and nothing else

Honestly I nearly choked laughing at the idea of 200 people being used as a pilot event. And then I thought about it...and the laughing stopped pretty quick.

Stormyteacup

Graham wrote: »

I really don't get this odd obsession with projecting embarrassment, it's just bizarre.

Anyway, on. the subject of pilot events.

If other countries had any great interest in what was happening here then it would be huge embarrassment. They don’t really, but we can undoubtedly be embarrassed ourselves considering our former reasonably punching-above-weight position in EU.

As regards pilot events - it all seems a bit staged to tally with projected easing dates. We could have had these pilot events weeks ago, and started scaling up long before now. Plenty of data available from other countries (which were perfectly acceptable for vaccination and testing preparations) - it’s a win-win argument to claim they are starting small, and will logically scale up, but the issue is they are starting too late and with zero regard to existing data re pilot events.

Degag

Silentcorner wrote: »

The posters that have been defending all this over the last few months must be getting a little embarrassed....surely!!!!

That's a rather strange assertion. I don't think anyone would or should be feeling embarrassed for defending the lockdown so far.

In saying that, i think it should be done now and 5th July reopening should go ahead. I think alot of what they've done so far has made sense and the public in general have been on their side but this could sway it alot.

Graham

Stormyteacup wrote: »

If other countries had any great interest in what was happening here then it would be huge embarrassment. They don’t really, but we can undoubtedly be embarrassed ourselves considering our former reasonably punching-above-weight position in EU.

You're welcome to feel as embarrassed as you like.

For most of us, worrying about what the neighbours might think doesn't really come into it. I certainly don't think it should shape our covid response and I'm quite happy that it hasn't.

Silentcorner

Graham wrote: »

I really don't get this odd obsession with projecting embarrassment, it's just bizarre.

Anyway, on. the subject of pilot events.

Well, if you can't even bring yourself to criticize the farcical "pilot" events then I wouldn't expect any self awareness from you.

This is a joke...even if you still, somehow, have convinced yourself the restrictions are justified, the pilot events are an absolute joke.

You can't be taken seriously.

Graham

Silentcorner wrote: »

Well, if you can't even bring yourself to criticize the farcical "pilot" events then I wouldn't expect any self awareness from you.

I'm aware you're embarrassed. No idea what that has to do with restrictions to be honest.

Can't say I've given the pilot events much thought. Makes sense to me that they start small and increase over time but it's not something I'm going to get excited about either way. Vaccinations are what will allow events to return at scale.

Silentcorner

Graham wrote: »

I'm aware you're embarrassed. No idea what that has to do with restrictions to be honest.

Can't say I've given the pilot events much thought. Makes sense to me that they start small and increase over time but it's not something I'm going to get excited about either way. Vaccinations are what will allow events to return at scale.

I'd say a lack of self awareness is only the tip of the iceberg here....

Silentcorner

Silentcorner wrote: »

Well, if you can't even bring yourself to criticize the farcical "pilot" events then I wouldn't expect any self awareness from you.

This is a joke...even if you still, somehow, have convinced yourself the restrictions are justified, the pilot events are an absolute joke.

You can't be taken seriously.

100% and this

https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1404207200420208646/photo/1

Graham

Silentcorner wrote: »

I'd say a lack of self awareness is only the tip of the iceberg here....

stay classy

Silentcorner

Graham wrote: »

I'm aware you're embarrassed.

Graham wrote: »

stay classy

You are an absolute joke.