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Russman · 15-04-2021 03:19PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

If registration happens at weekends (which I'm sure it will, it's just a site linked to a database), I'll be registering in around 40~ days (late 20s/early 30s). Nice one!

titan18 wrote: »

Ya, I'd be thinking 3rd week of May they might be registering the 50-59 group unless there's any major changes with supply.

Well, I know which one of these I want to happen !

:D

Joking aside, I'd expect the 50-59 to start before then though, if the 60-64 are starting late April. Hopefully anyway !

Strazdas · 15-04-2021 03:20PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

HSE confirm people in 60s to have first dose by end of May, plan works so that 80% have first dose end of June. This is possible because most deliveries are backended.

One would assume though that the younger groups would already be well underway at this point, especially as they will be receiving a different vaccine (i.e. not AstraZeneca).

funnydoggy · 15-04-2021 03:20PM

Lucas Hood wrote: »

OT but statistics is grand.

Dunno if you do Discrete Maths but that's a ball breaker.

So Discrete you'll never see ever again when done.

Finishing up our last 2-3 weeks of discrete maths as we speak.

Jaysus. Logic & recursive funcitions are about manageable but now we're doing linear algebra in a way I've never seen before

ACitizenErased · 15-04-2021 03:22PM

This week's expected goal: 130-140k
Next week's goal: 140k to 160k (110k over 70, 10k cohort 4, 30-40k over 60)

Apogee · 15-04-2021 03:22PM

Next week: 140,000-160,000
Complete over 70s 100-110k
Over 60s 30-40K
High risk ~10K

Current week revised down to 120,000-140,000

Russman · 15-04-2021 03:24PM

Strazdas wrote: »

One would assume though that the younger groups would already be well underway at this point, especially as they will be receiving a different vaccine (i.e. not AstraZeneca).

Of course ! I hadn't thought of that. The 60s are, from a purely projecting point of view, largely irrelevant to the lower age cohorts as AZ is almost exclusively for them. The 50s and lower are depending on the vulnerable 18-59s to get finished first.
Must be a logistics nightmare all the same for those tasked with juggling it all into place.

ACitizenErased · 15-04-2021 03:24PM

Expect low-ish figures for week or two as cohorts are re-allocated doses, Reid says. Still well on track to complete the program as planned this quarter.

titan18 · 15-04-2021 03:27PM

Russman wrote: »

Well, I know which one of these I want to happen ! :D

Joking aside, I'd expect the 50-59 to start before then though, if the 60-64 are starting late April. Hopefully anyway !

The plan there had group 7 being done over May to early June. 50-59 won't be ahead of them but likely starting in the last week or two of those. So I really can't see before past mid May based on that plan anyway. It could be a conservative plan I guess and they'll go through it faster than that.

I should be group 7 so I'm kind of hoping mid May based off that and hopefully done in June then. A positive of gaining weight during lockdown as all the gyms were closed.

Apogee · 15-04-2021 03:30PM

https://twitter.com/PriscillaLynch/status/1382693199647543303

Russman · 15-04-2021 03:33PM

titan18 wrote: »

The plan there had group 7 being done over May to early June. 50-59 won't be ahead of them but likely starting in the last week or two of those. So I really can't see before past mid May based on that plan anyway. It could be a conservative plan I guess and they'll go through it faster than that.

Does the 60-64 element of group 7 have to get AZ now or is it still whatever is available ? "have to" is probably the wrong terminology in fairness.

titan18 · 15-04-2021 03:35PM

Russman wrote: »

Does the 60-64 element of group 7 have to get AZ now or is it still whatever is available ? "have to" is probably the wrong terminology in fairness.

I'm sort of assuming they have to unless their own doctor deems it risky (maybe someone might have a condition that makes them prone to clotting or something) and their GP will request Pfizer.

IRISHSPORTSGUY · 15-04-2021 03:37PM

Apogee wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PriscillaLynch/status/1382693199647543303

I notice the majority of the 605,000 J&J doses are backended to June like most of the 550,000 extra Pfizer doses. Gonna be weird going from a situation of endless moaning about lack of supply to drowning in the stuff :pac:

ACitizenErased · 15-04-2021 03:37PM

titan18 wrote: »

I'm sort of assuming they have to unless their own doctor deems it risky (maybe someone might have a condition that makes them prone to clotting or something) and their GP will request Pfizer.

Colm Henry just said at the briefing there's no reason why someone who has previously experienced clots should not get AZ as they're different clots from regular ones

15-04-2021 03:39PM

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

I notice the majority of the 605,000 J&J doses are backended to June like most of the 550,000 extra Pfizer doses. Gonna be weird going from a situation of endless moaning about lack of supply to drowning in the stuff :pac:

Come June lots of post like "they want me to go for my vaccine tomorrow but I dont want to until next Tuesday" id imagine

titan18 · 15-04-2021 03:40PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Colm Henry just said at the briefing there's no reason why someone who has previously experienced clots should not get AZ as they're different clots from regular ones

I think it'd be wrong to force someone to take it if their own GP deemed it riskier. Whatever about the persons own personal choice, if the GP deems it medically necessary that they need one over the other, that should be taken into account.

noplacehere · 15-04-2021 03:40PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Acting CMO has given HSE clarification on NIAC advice - AZ not to be given to anyone under 60 despite NIAC letter referencing cases where benefits outweigh risks

Hang on, do I have to be re-jabbed then? I had dose 1 as a very high risk patient. And we aren't mentioned in that slide at all (only the healthcare workers). Do they just mean new jabs?

ACitizenErased · 15-04-2021 03:42PM

noplacehere wrote: »

Hang on, do I have to be re-jabbed then? I had dose 1 as a very high risk patient. And we aren't mentioned in that slide at all (only the healthcare workers). Do they just mean new jabs?

Only new jabs

Strazdas · 15-04-2021 03:42PM

Russman wrote: »

Of course ! I hadn't thought of that. The 60s are, from a purely projecting point of view, largely irrelevant to the lower age cohorts as AZ is almost exclusively for them. The 50s and lower are depending on the vulnerable 18-59s to get finished first.
Must be a logistics nightmare all the same for those tasked with juggling it all into place.

It sounds like by May that we will have AZ vaccination centres and Pfizer ones running at the same time (though it's possible the really big places might be able to vaccinate with both vaccines on the same day).

stephenjmcd · 15-04-2021 03:42PM

noplacehere wrote: »

Hang on, do I have to be re-jabbed then? I had dose 1 as a very high risk patient. And we aren't mentioned in that slide at all (only the healthcare workers). Do they just mean new jabs?

No your grand.

They were asking could a consent form etc be possible if someone u60 wanted AZ in the general rollout. Looks like a no on that front

ACitizenErased · 15-04-2021 03:43PM

titan18 wrote: »

I think it'd be wrong to force someone to take it if their own GP deemed it riskier. Whatever about the persons own personal choice, if the GP deems it medically necessary that they need one over the other, that should be taken into account.

Dr. Henry said he would expect GPs to encourage AZ

titan18 · 15-04-2021 03:45PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Dr. Henry said he would expect GPs to encourage AZ

They can encourage it sure but at the same time they know the persons medical history, Henry doesn't. Much like any medication, GP will recommend some medications over others due to conditions the patient may have. I know my GP has done that anyway and told me outright not to even use some as it could cause complications on other things, so I'd expect same should apply here.

josip · 15-04-2021 03:47PM

It will be interesting to see what %age of 69 year olds register for the vaccine.
It will give an indication of the upper bounds of expected vaccine uptake.

JTMan · 15-04-2021 03:49PM

NY Times are saying that the J&J pause may continue for a week to 10 days.

CDC noted that the pause would have a small effect on US rollout but one member said that the "weight of the burden of a global responsibility" is on their shoulders.

EMA obviously may follow CDC lead.

JTMan · 15-04-2021 03:50PM

https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1382687698394230792

Skygord · 15-04-2021 03:54PM

Furze99 wrote: »

Really? These people have ears you know and can read and also vote.

Just sharing the info for those that may have missed the briefing.

Apogee · 15-04-2021 03:56PM

Reposting this from Zara King's tweet - easier to see estimated cohort sizes.

stephenjmcd · 15-04-2021 04:05PM

JTMan wrote: »

NY Times are saying that the J&J pause may continue for a week to 10 days.

CDC noted that the pause would have a small effect on US rollout but one member said that the "weight of the burden of a global responsibility" is on their shoulders.

EMA obviously may follow CDC lead.

EMA has already been looking into it since last week.

FDA press conference was that they hoped it would be a number of days.

Officially the rollout hasn't been paused by the EMA. J&J have paused shipments and its up to countries if they use the J&J stock that arrived this week.

15-04-2021 04:06PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Come June lots of post like "they want me to go for my vaccine tomorrow but I dont want to until next Tuesday" id imagine

You'd have to hope the booking system would have slot selection. Otherwise you will have a high rate of missed appointments.

Rebelbrowser · 15-04-2021 04:10PM

Deleted User wrote: »

You'd have to hope the booking system would have slot selection. Otherwise you will have a high rate of missed appointments.

Absolutely. By July when people in 30s and 40s are being done you will have lots of (domestic) family holidays clashing with dates.

Health11 · 15-04-2021 04:18PM

Hello, I am a healthcare worker who missed the portal deadline on March 26th. What do i do now to get a vaccine?

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