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Cross-border review of rail network officially launched

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,310 ✭✭✭spillit67


    Doesn't make a difference on fare evasion if you have competent revenue protection (Luas does this decent enough) but it is miles worse for Anti Social Behaviour.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Given that the gates are left open now all the time and most stations unmanned, how exactly is that better for anti-social behaviour?!

    Why is there so much anti-social behaviour on Irish Rail services, even though they have gates and often the issues are actually on intercity service that even has staff on board:

    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/sharp-rise-in-anti-social-behaviour-on-irish-rail-services-1518375.html

    The reality of Ireland today, is that the majority of anti-social behaviour is actually coming from people who actually paid their fares (or have free travel pass).

    Specially on DART where teenagers are paying just 65c, gates aren't stopping any of them from using the service!



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    The NTA Actually does a report into the number of anti-social reports:

    https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Passenger-Personal-Security-Report-2024.pdf

    Incidents per 100,000 passengers:

    • Irish Rail: 7.3
    • Luas: 2.7

    Yes, the gates doing a great job there!

    I think it is more of a case of perception for you, rather then reality. DART has always had issues with anti-scoial behaviour and the gates never did anything about it.

    The gates are just "security theatre", the only thing that will really tackle anti-social behaviour is a Transport Police service and them actively riding the trains.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,114 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    A Transport Police won’t do much.


    We already have a police force and anti-social behaviour is rampant around the country.


    There is little or no penalty.



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