Irish family appeal mandatory quarantine..

a_squirrelman

tom1ie wrote: »

Indeed

Exactly. Why isn't Offaly or Dublin on a strict lockdown and curfew. There must be local variants there with the high numbers and all.

a_squirrelman

a_squirrelman wrote: »

Variants exist and they won't stop existing. There were UK variants as well though right? Why aren't the UK on the list?

I assume you posted about my use of the word variant.

I was saying we should have had far stricter controls for people travelling from all countries during the last year, including the UK

As per Michael Martin
“I am very concerned about this new mutant variant, which has a 70 per cent additional transmissibility which is far in excess of anything we have experienced to date,” he said.

You will possibly hear this a lot this week, from him and government, when they are explaining why the current restrictions have to stay in place.

Surely it would have been a great idea to have at least have made some effort during the last 12 months to control our borders and stop these foreign variants (UK) and others getting into Ireland( 11 months after the irish lockdowns started)

a_squirrelman

a_squirrelman wrote: »

Variants exist and they won't stop existing. There were UK variants as well though right? Why aren't the UK on the list?

Because the UK variant is the dominant one here already. They were banned from coming here entirely over Christmas don’t forget

is_that_so

Deleted User wrote: »

Because the UK variant is the dominant one here already. They were banned from coming here entirely over Christmas don’t forget

Advised not to travel is not the same thing as a ban.

WoollyRedHat

[Deleted User] wrote: »

But this won’t work, there are 5 of them and only 3 beds. So the two adults have to sleep in the suitcases

Luxury! When we had to do mandatory quarantine, we had to eat our meals from a bin bag with a straw. Each day we got a cup of bathwater each to drink, a cold cup mind, that we had to drink using a rolled up newspaper. We used to live in one room, with half the floor missing and we were all were all 'uddled together in one corner for fear of falling into the landfill that sat below.


We had no beds, so two of us had to sleep in the toilet, the others in vents and if you were lucky, in the wardrobe or on the window sill.

For exercise, we had to get up in the middle of the night, go down the sewers and swim in a tiny pipe, with the rats for company. And then when we got home, the hotel manager would thrash us to sleep with our full and unopened suitcases...if we were lucky! But you know, we were happy in those days, though we were quarantined.And you try and tell the young people of today that ... they won't believe you

jrosen

Lots of sympathy for them on social media.

I have zero, they knew the situation. Irish or not, nurse or not the virus hasnt a clue who she is or what her plans are so she and her family are just as susceptible to the virus as anyone else. Suck it up buttercup, do your time and then your good to go.

gmisk

jrosen wrote: »

Lots of sympathy for them on social media.

I have zero, they knew the situation. Irish or not, nurse or not the virus hasnt a clue who she is or what her plans are so she and her family are just as susceptible to the virus as anyone else. Suck it up buttercup, do your time and then your good to go.

But they had to wait an hour for the room to be ready...and they can't go and get a birthday cake!....the inhumanity of it all!

An Ri rua

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Homeless families are allowed leave their hotels I thought?

Or are they locked into their rooms?

No, well spotted anomaly. They are shackled every night. But only for 2 weeks at a time, once every year for the number of MONTHS/YEARS that they live in a hotel room.

Karlos77

Is she really a nurse at all or maybe starting medical college....


She's a moany bltch...

She goes in about her kids used to do hand stands in oz ..they can still do them in the room by cleaning up...state of the place...an empty wardrobe...

Or why cant they store suitcases in the hallway between rooms

Pauliedragon

They came from Australia which has some of the tightest quarantine rules in the world. You literally can't leave the room over there for the 2 weeks. At least here they allow you to go for a stroll outside. As mentioned above they knew the rules. Our ****in country is effectively shut. There's a new strain from Papua New Guinea after being found in Oz so how we know they didn't bring that with them.

is_that_so

Pauliedragon wrote: »

They came from Australia which has some of the tightest quarantine rules in the world. You literally can't leave the room over there for the 2 weeks. At least here they allow you to go for a stroll outside. As mentioned above they knew the rules. Our ****in country is effectively shut. There's a new strain from Papua New Guinea after being found in Oz so how we know they didn't bring that with them.

Is that a VUI or a VOC? There are well over 650K genetic variants BTW.

HildaOgdenx

gmisk wrote: »

But they had to wait an hour for the room to be ready...and they can't go and get a birthday cake!....the inhumanity of it all!

It's so tone deaf on their part. FFS.
'Appealing', give me strength.
People here have been through so much in the past year.

I recently attended a relative's funeral, online.
And knowing that the person's grandchildren who loved him, and he them, couldn't be there, because of the restrictions in numbers, was heartbreaking.
That's only one small story. I know there's thousands of others.

Their whining about two weeks in a hotel room makes me sick. Apparently she is now upgraded to a suite in the hotel but 'it's still a litany of disasters'. Her words, not mine.

HildaOgdenx

And the whining about her kids.

Has she any inkling of how disrupted the lives of all kids in Ireland have been for the past year! Grrr.

Be right back

Anyone think that she won't be able for restrictions here and will be returning to Oz in the next year or so?

Antares35

a_squirrelman wrote: »

Special treatment how? Surely they are GETTING special treatment by being forced to quarantine in a hotel
Why aren't they allowed quarantine at home like everyone else does? They are covid negative while covid positive people and their close contacts can wander freely.

Can people really be trusted to quarantine at home at this stage FFS. They're coming from a high risk country. And by her own admission, she wanted to be free to skip off and get a birthday cake.

Living Off The Splash

Although, I understand that they have upgraded their accommodation now. Why did the hotel not give them the better rooms in the first place?

Antares35

appledrop wrote: »

Yea and I'm sure they expected all their extended family to greet them and make a big fuss over them now they are 'home'.

I've news for them no birthdays parties here in Ireland for us either.

As I've mentioned my son will be having his 2nd lockdown birthday soon celebrating with no one apart from his parents, so they can suck it up like the rest of us.

Same, our first born didn't get to meet her family for ten weeks, and will soon have her first birthday at home with just her mam and dad. She's never even met her paternal grandmother who is terminally ill.

Living Off The Splash

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Luxury! When we had to do mandatory quarantine, we had to eat our meals from a bin bag with a straw. Each day we got a cup of bathwater each to drink, a cold cup mind, that we had to drink using a rolled up newspaper. We used to live in one room, with half the floor missing and we were all were all 'uddled together in one corner for fear of falling into the landfill that sat below.


We had no beds, so two of us had to sleep in the toilet, the others in vents and if you were lucky, in the wardrobe or on the window sill.

For exercise, we had to get up in the middle of the night, go down the sewers and swim in a tiny pipe, with the rats for company. And then when we got home, the hotel manager would thrash us to sleep with our full and unopened suitcases...if we were lucky! But you know, we were happy in those days, though we were quarantined.And you try and tell the young people of today that ... they won't believe you

Rathmines bedsit from the 70's?

volchitsa

Antares35 wrote: »

Can people really be trusted to quarantine at home at this stage FFS. They're coming from a high risk country. And by her own admission, she wanted to be free to skip off and get a birthday cake.

She wanted a party. She's complaining about "not even" being able to buy a birthday cake when they had planned to be here in time for the kid to have her birthday in Ireland. Doesn't sound like they were just planning on buying a cake.

Eggs For Dinner

jahalpin wrote: »

Nothing is being handed to them, they are paying well above market rates for the stay

They are discounted rates if you include transport, security and food

is_that_so

volchitsa wrote: »

She wanted a party. She's complaining about "not even" being able to buy a birthday cake when they had planned to be here in time for the kid to have her birthday in Ireland. Doesn't sound like they were just planning on buying a cake.

It sounds like a good opportunity for some cheap PR by the hotel, which they should embrace. They can make the cake too!

strandroad

volchitsa wrote: »

She wanted a party. She's complaining about "not even" being able to buy a birthday cake when they had planned to be here in time for the kid to have her birthday in Ireland. Doesn't sound like they were just planning on buying a cake.

Makes no difference if they are at the hotel or in their own house, there is only one way her girl can get her cake days after arrival: delivered to the place.
No going out shopping, no visitors.

The mother doesn't seem to get it at all?

alexonhisown

HildaOgdenx wrote: »

It's so tone deaf on their part. FFS.
'Appealing', give me strength.
People here have been through so much in the past year.

I recently attended a relative's funeral, online.
And knowing that the person's grandchildren who loved him, and he them, couldn't be there, because of the restrictions in numbers, was heartbreaking.
That's only one small story. I know there's thousands of others.

Their whining about two weeks in a hotel room makes me sick. Apparently she is now upgraded to a suite in the hotel but 'it's still a litany of disasters'. Her words, not mine.

And she won’t stop whining till they allow her to quarantine in a house. Zero sympathy for them, moaning about no where to put their stuff, too lazy to open cases and put it in the wardrobes. It’s not the perfect situation but we have all sacrificed so much of our freedom over the past year, so suck it up missus and stop moaning.

yabadabado

Living Off The Splash wrote: »

Although, I understand that they have upgraded their accommodation now. Why did the hotel not give them the better rooms in the first place?

Nothing wrong with the two rooms to begin with ,hotel shouldn't have upgraded them, only asking for more hassle.

I feel sorry for the husband and kids,she's a daft ****er.

Curlysue76

yabadabado wrote: »

Nothing wrong with the two rooms to begin with ,hotel shouldn't have upgraded them, only asking for more hassle.

I feel sorry for the husband and kids,she's a daft ****er.

Just goes to show those who shout the loudest get what they want, great lesson for the kids!!!!

Feisar

Anyone getting three hots and a cot has no right to be complaining. A daft non story.

grogi

Antares35 wrote: »

Can people really be trusted to quarantine at home at this stage FFS. They're coming from a high risk country. And by her own admission, she wanted to be free to skip off and get a birthday cake.

If gov was doing its job and setup means to check if they are and fine those not following house quarantine, we would be able to trust it. Would be cheaper, more effective and with much smaller impact.

gingerhousewife

I think she's in for a shock when she gets out of quarantine and discovers what life is like in perpetual level 5.

I guess without living through the past year in Ireland, it must be impossible to understand what we have all been through, so she's coming from relative "normality" and has no idea how ridiculous her complaints of "hardship" sound to the rest of us.

lawred2

volchitsa wrote: »

She wanted a party. She's complaining about "not even" being able to buy a birthday cake when they had planned to be here in time for the kid to have her birthday in Ireland. Doesn't sound like they were just planning on buying a cake.

She sounds like she's completely unaware that there's a pandemic...

The lad must be some doormat. That or exhausted with crap like this.

sporina

An Ri rua wrote: »

Are you perhaps expecting the British to issue sanctions for Irish human rights violations?
If you're not trolling at this stage, you must have drank a sentimentality potion at the local New Age market.

no idea what you on about..

Pauliedragon

is_that_so wrote: »

Is that a VUI or a VOC? There are well over 650K genetic variants BTW.

I don't know I'm only going off what I'm hearing from over there. I'll bet if you asked that family they will say the government over there did brilliantly with there quarantine. So why not comply with our rules.

Antares35

gingerhousewife wrote: »

I think she's in for a shock when she gets out of quarantine and discovers what life is like in perpetual level 5.

I guess without living through the past year in Ireland, it must be impossible to understand what we have all been through, so she's coming from relative "normality" and has no idea how ridiculous her complaints of "hardship" sound to the rest of us.

How do we know for sure she'd be caught at a random check? Or do you propose a check outside every house that these people stay in? Why is it always on the government to police it?

Edit sorry replied to wrong post!

CIARAN_BOYLE

I wonder if in a week or two we will have airlines routing planes to avoid quarantine.

If it wasn't for a layover in dubai this family wouldn't be in the quarantine net.

So fly a different route or don't let people onto the plane during the layover. Might make things easier for some passengers.

Airlines might be charging a surcharge for the service.

Multipass

I feel sorry for them - they obviously thought they were returning to the country they remembered, not this bat**** crazy, hysterical society we’ve been turned into. The quarantine system is a futile, senseless joke. Variants will spread worldwide regardless, they’re already here.

JustAThought

lawred2 wrote: »

She sounds like she's completely unaware that there's a pandemic...

The lad must be some doormat. That or exhausted with crap like this.

I wouldn’t agree - he’s kept well out of it - hard to do stuck in 2 rooms with a raving self entitled lunatic you’re married to.

Pity the hotel upgraded them - sure its good PR but will cause a heartache when everyone (else) realises they can get more than what they’re entitled to or have paid for by whinnging

I wonder is she related to Margaret Cash in any way?

I pity the husband and the kids.

They are also in for an awful fright when they get to their own ‘holiday home’ in Easky and have to heat the rooms they will be stuck in 24/7 themselves and pay for their own gas/LX. The Sligo public and gaurds will also now recognise them if they wander 5k out - they’ve really put themselves on the map and not in a good way.
Bad start for the family and worse start for the kids.

Why, being a nurse, would you move your kids from a covid free continent where they grew up in the sun to a rainy dark miserable one that is infested with it? Where schools are closed and they know noone. Why??

Its not as thou she has a positive mental attitude that will help the kids get through it and adjust. i feel so sorry for the husband.

Antares35

JustAThought wrote: »

Why, being a nurse, would you move your kids from a covid free continent where they grew up in the sun to a rainy dark miserable one that is infested with it? Where schools are closed and they know noone. Why??

So she can whinge about it.

JustAThought

Antares35 wrote: »

So she can whinge about it.

She’ll fit right in as a self entitled civil servant so.

Crowne Plaza rooms looks lovely - two big armchairs and a demi couch in the main bedroom - nice. Must bear them in mind when the restrictions are lifted and I finally get to go somewhere.

5 big paper bags of lunch delivered and a tray of something tasty opened on the table - wouldn’t mind a bit of that tlc myself!! I guess as a nurse someone has trained her not to leave bags of food on a floor in a public place & to put them up on the table? Not great hygeine standards for an olcology nurse. She’ll fit right in to the irish hospital system.

Feisar

Feisar wrote: »

Anyone getting three hots and a cot has no right to be complaining. A daft non story.

What are three hots?

Oh beds.

lawred2

JustAThought wrote: »

I wouldn’t agree - he’s kept well out of it - hard to do stuck in 2 rooms with a raving self entitled lunatic you’re married to.

Pity the hotel upgraded them - sure its good PR but will cause a heartache when everyone (else) realises they can get more than what they’re entitled to or have paid for by whinnging

I wonder is she related to Margaret Cash in any way?

I pity the husband and the kids.

They are also in for an awful fright when they get to their own ‘holiday home’ in Easky and have to heat the rooms they will be stuck in 24/7 themselves and pay for their own gas/LX. The Sligo public and gaurds will also now recognise them if they wander 5k out - they’ve really put themselves on the map and not in a good way.
Bad start for the family and worse start for the kids.

Why, being a nurse, would you move your kids from a covid free continent where they grew up in the sun to a rainy dark miserable one that is infested with it? Where schools are closed and they know noone. Why??

Its not as thou she has a positive mental attitude that will help the kids get through it and adjust. i feel so sorry for the husband.

Did I not suggest "exhausted with crap like this"!?

However you know as much about the husband as anyone else so I wouldn't necessarily start feeling "sorry" for anyone.

Like you though I just can't wrap my head around leaving Australia right now... Especially Western Australia.

Infini

Fecking Eejits, they should have planned their trip at the very least to not go through Dubai if they wanted to Quarantine at home when they got here. I've no sympathy to be honest its just a sob story instead of just getting on with it. Some basic research or planning would've saved them all this hassle.

JustAThought

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What are three hots?

Oh beds.

Three hot meals a day!!!
Shopped for, cooked, and delivered to your hotel door!

I’m in quarrentine over a year now and I havn’t had that kind of service!! Maybe I need a holiday and should check into a hotel for some TLC - o - I forgot - the industry is destroyed because of covid and ****WITS who will not follow the basic quarrentine rules and think they don’t or shouldn’t apply to them which hs us exactly where we are now. Locked Up, Lonely and totally F*****.

But yer wan from Sligo thinks the quarrentine rules don’t or shouldn’t somehow apply to her and her family. ffs.

Entitled much.

I should just stop reading the Irish Times too - a tabloid for left wing ABC1’s. Last week just after the vermin Cash type beggars harassed and stole 120,000 from two elderly widows living alone they ran a story about how the same self entitled cohort were sleeping at the side of roads with no running water or permanent piped sewage. Not a word of the elderly pensioners whose lives they had ruined and terrorised. This weeks its wannabe covid breakers getting too much oxygen. Just boils my blood.

I notice they didn’t run a story on the three thousand babies and toddlers RAPED and depraved pictures and videos found on the computer of that known depraved sex offender prostitute Brazillian pervert living in Dublin who got a cosy 3 year sentence - and recommended as a low risk for reoffending because he had apologised to the court. Our media seriously needs to get a grip in this country. Start with the likes of the rag whose editors thought it acceptable to focus in this self entitled womans ‘story’. Margaret Cash much. More like Typhoid Mary. At least the Americans kept her locked up.

lawred2

Where have you been quarantined for a year?

JustAThought

lawred2 wrote: »

Where have you been quarantined for a year?

in my house. You know what I intend to mean I hope. No visitors, no visiting family in hospital or then in nursing homes, no people over, no going to an office to work, no gym, no sport, etc. All the little details of things that nursey missed out when planning her new life in the old sod.

you know what i mean!!

Curlysue76

Curlysue76 wrote: »

This 100%, she really has little to worry about,

She could also ask for one of the double beds to be switched out for a single, or even a sofa that pulls out as a bed at night, many hotels I've stayed in have these. Give them a little more floor space and a more comfortable sitting area.

Take out clothes for two days, then close up the suit cases and stack them up, no need to have them all open, covering the floor. Someone made a good point about stacking them in one of the two bathrooms.

Acknowledged, its not great, but they could do a lot to make it easier on themselves.

RacoonQueen

Living Off The Splash wrote: »

Although, I understand that they have upgraded their accommodation now. Why did the hotel not give them the better rooms in the first place?

They shouldn't have. F*ck them. Everyone else has to and thousands have done the same the world over for the last year.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0327/1206518-coronavirus-quarantine-ireland/

"We've come from Australia, where the kids were outdoors, they spend their day on the trampoline or doing handstands or in the garden, or in the pool. My youngest turns nine tomorrow [and] one of her big requests was to get home in time to have a birthday in Ireland. But we hadn't anticipated that I actually wouldn't even be able to buy her a birthday cake".

Leave them there longer, she clearly had no intentions of restricting her movements once she got here.

Antares35

RacoonQueen wrote: »

They shouldn't have. F*ck them. Everyone else has to and thousands have done the same the world over for the last year.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0327/1206518-coronavirus-quarantine-ireland/

"We've come from Australia, where the kids were outdoors, they spend their day on the trampoline or doing handstands or in the garden, or in the pool. My youngest turns nine tomorrow [and] one of her big requests was to get home in time to have a birthday in Ireland. But we hadn't anticipated that I actually wouldn't even be able to buy her a birthday cake".

Leave them there longer, she clearly had no intentions of restricting her movements once she got here.

Did she think there would be a bakery in the hotel? Or that she'd be allowed leave the hotel to go to one? I'm not sure which assumption is more stupid.

volchitsa

RacoonQueen wrote: »

They shouldn't have. F*ck them. Everyone else has to and thousands have done the same the world over for the last year.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0327/1206518-coronavirus-quarantine-ireland/

"We've come from Australia, where the kids were outdoors, they spend their day on the trampoline or doing handstands or in the garden, or in the pool. My youngest turns nine tomorrow [and] one of her big requests was to get home in time to have a birthday in Ireland. But we hadn't anticipated that I actually wouldn't even be able to buy her a birthday cake".

Leave them there longer, she clearly had no intentions of restricting her movements once she got here.

It sounds like she didn't want to come at all, doesn't it? And I can see why.

I wonder if this was all her husband's project, and she was following reluctantly.

But that really isn't anyone else's fault.

Odelay

She should get a bag of cans delivered everyday. Two weeks would fly by.

JustAThought

JustAThought wrote: »

She’ll fit right in as a self entitled civil servant so.

Just a FYI..

Doctors, Nurses, Gardai, HSE workers, etc are public servants, not civil servants.

Be right back

RacoonQueen wrote: »

They shouldn't have. F*ck them. Everyone else has to and thousands have done the same the world over for the last year.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0327/1206518-coronavirus-quarantine-ireland/

"We've come from Australia, where the kids were outdoors, they spend their day on the trampoline or doing handstands or in the garden, or in the pool. My youngest turns nine tomorrow [and] one of her big requests was to get home in time to have a birthday in Ireland. But we hadn't anticipated that I actually wouldn't even be able to buy her a birthday cake".

Leave them there longer, she clearly had no intentions of restricting her movements once she got here.

Then they should have left Perth 2 weeks ago so her daughter could have had her birthday party.