Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

RobitTV

Tony Holohan speaks from the future

RobitTV

Tony Holohan speaking about the flu numbers across the country in 2011 - he hasn't changed a bit.

Tork

titan18 wrote: »

Kinda funny how Martin's son is an inter county GAA player.

Nothing to do with it. The GAA holds enormous sway anyway. Not that it stopped their club teams spread the virus when they went on the piss after their championships ended last year.

suicide_circus

Deleted User wrote: »

Any data to back up your assertion

I'm not promoting that assertion, i'm trying to guess the motivation for only allowing fully vaccinated folk to meet with other fully vaccinated folk from one other household - it's as if they don't think the vaccines are up to the job to allow for more.

Arturo Delgado

Silentcorner wrote: »

They lost a lot of adherence a back in Feb when they extended the lock down to April 5th....you can see it every where you go....throngs of people are packing city centres and town centres on nice days.

They will lose a load more now the evening are longer and the weather improves.

Most people who haven't been indocrinated can see the seasonal factor in the virus...the danger has long passed....and it wasn't too dangerous to begin with certainly not in proportion with the risk.

Pretty much this. Game over for lockdown. Government has lost the people, and there can only be trouble ahead if they don't concede as much.

TheMilkyPirate

No construction until May?? That will not go down well

Klonker

Dr. Catherine Motherway, consultant in intensive care medicine said today that the median age of ICU patients in the wave since Christmas is 63. This is generally made up of people in their 70s and people in cohort 4, at very high risk to severe disease. She said this on Today with Claire Byrne radio show.

This is for the posters that like to mention that ICU is full of young people and that we can't open up even after all vulnerable are vaccinated or our ICUs will fill up. NPHET could do with having a listen to it too to be honest.

Graham

Arturo Delgado wrote: »

Pretty much this. Game over for lockdown. Government has lost the people, and there can only be trouble ahead if they don't concede as much.

I don't think that's a good thing whatever your views on restrictions.

It's likely to mean some people will continue to ignore restrictions out of the government's control which in turn is likely to prolong restrictions in areas that the government can control, e.g. retail, click and collect, retail, sporting facilities, construction, hospitality, businesses, international travel etc.

Graham

Klonker wrote: »

Dr. Catherine Motherway, consultant in intensive care medicine said today that the median age of ICU patients in the wave since Christmas is 63. This is generally made up of people in their 70s and people in cohort 4, at very high risk to severe disease. She said this on Today with Claire Byrne radio show.

Would be interesting to see if/how that's changes since the vaccinations started rolling out.

I'd expect ICUs to either empty of Covid patients or see the age profile of patients to go down. Hopefully the former.

KrustyUCC

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

No construction until May?? That will not go down well

No some construction back on 12th April home building to resume

facehugger99

JDD wrote: »

In May, if hairdressers aren't open straight away, I'll get my hairdresser to do a nixer. I'll allow my kids to have playdates indoors.

In May?

Jesus.

My kids have had regular sleepovers with their cousins throughout this nonsense.

Two of their cousins are coming over to our place this weekend to stay over.

Fitz*

That 2 week period where the only 'reward' to the public is allowing county GAA teams to train is an awful kick in the teeth.

Cosmo Kramer

Now that most Irish people have clearly given up on the restrictions anyway it's time to look at relaxing restrictions for incoming visitors from the UK. There should be no reason why any fully vaccinated British resident shouldn't be allowed to come to Ireland freely under Common Travel Area rules, as long as they can provide proof that they have had both vaccination doses (or just the single jab in the case of J&J).

The hospitality and aviation industry badly needs the boost they would provide to the economy this summer.

lawred2

RobitTV wrote: »

Really hard choices to make. Too dangerous in my opinion to allow two (fully vaccinated) people to meet inside...

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1376879383156297736

Anti science jokeshop

speckle

I am giving them until the have 80% of those over 70 (from the intial chort numbers) who choose to have the injection are done and 60% of the high risk under 70... there will always be people turning 70 or becoming high risk and those who are high risk under 70 like myself are used to keeping safe or have parents who will do it if intellectually challenged etc. .

It is time for all those not high risk who have been keeping us safe staying within the guidelines to be prioritised... we will always have varients and I would rather if they are going to get it ..they get a dose of the ones around now in the summer when the weather is better and their general health.

I am not going to start doing everything at once and will not be going near anyone high risk until 3 weeks post second injection unless they are fully informed of the possible ramifications and still choose it.

My life has been on hold 14 months now, my career destroyed and my healthcare situation has been a farce.

Thankyou all who put your lives on hold...it is near time for your lives and livelyhoods to take priorty.

And the HSE/gov better have a plan in place that does not include locking down for next winter for hospitals or there will be civil unrest from all sectors of society

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V_kC1cDLWU

PEOPLE HAVE THE POWER

dublinbando

Apparently the only sports we play in this Country are GAA, Tennis and Golf, who knew!

TomTomTim

dublinbando wrote: »

Apparently the only sports we play in this Country are GAA, Tennis and Golf, who knew!

I'll be heading off for a cycle around a golf course then :pac:

suicide_circus

How much is a set of golf bats these days

_Kaiser_

dublinbando wrote: »

Apparently the only sports we play in this Country are GAA, Tennis and Golf, who knew!

Couldn't give a damn about any of those sports to be honest, but if GAA players are allowed travel the country again before the rest of us are then there's something (even more) BADLY wrong.

Apoapsis Rex

KrustyUCC wrote: »

No some construction back on 12th April home building to resume

Not anymore,

From Rte

Cabinet is still meeting at present, but here’s a brief rundown of what we know on what’s being discussed so far:

The 5km rule may be scrapped from 12 April
Two fully vaccinated people may be able to meet up indoors from 12 April
Outdoor sports, like tennis and golf, and non-contact training for under 18s looks like it could be permitted from 26 April

The phased re-opening of retail, construction and personal services such as hairdressers looks set to be delayed until May at the earliest.

dublinbando

Apoapsis Rex wrote: »

Not anymore,

From Rte

Cabinet is still meeting at present, but here’s a brief rundown of what we know on what’s being discussed so far:

The 5km rule may be scrapped from 12 April
Two fully vaccinated people may be able to meet up indoors from 12 April
Outdoor sports, like tennis and golf, and non-contact training for under 18s looks like it could be permitted from 26 April

The phased re-opening of retail, construction and personal services such as hairdressers looks set to be delayed until May at the earliest.

I don't see why any amount of vaccinated people shouldn't be allowed to do whatever

dublinbando

Also what are we going to do about the wild birds that come into my garden and eat seeds from the feeder? If I have covid and I fill the feeder, then a bird comes along eats some of the seeds and carrys the covid off with him to your bird feeder, then you get covid when you go to fill the feeder. Seriously we need to think about these things if we are ever going to survive this virus.

PTH2009

Some day for us Irish

Firstly a speech full of waffle by MM making us both angry and depressed

Then the Ireland match against Qutar is on

Cheery

facehugger99

dublinbando wrote: »

I don't see why any amount of vaccinated people shouldn't be allowed to do whatever

Anyone with a functioning brain will be ignoring the latest in a series of Orwellian bolloxology and making up their own minds.

LineOfBeauty

PTH2009 wrote: »

Some day for us Irish

Firstly a speech full of waffle by MM making us both angry and depressed

Then the Ireland match against Qutar is on

Cheery

It's clever though. The Irish team is so outrageously bad that another "historic" defeat might deflect a small bit of the ire away from MM.

dmc17

suicide_circus wrote: »

How much is a set of golf bats these days

Few hundred quid. It's a racket!

Chong

Apoapsis Rex wrote: »

Not anymore,

From Rte

Cabinet is still meeting at present, but here’s a brief rundown of what we know on what’s being discussed so far:

The 5km rule may be scrapped from 12 April
Two fully vaccinated people may be able to meet up indoors from 12 April
Outdoor sports, like tennis and golf, and non-contact training for under 18s looks like it could be permitted from 26 April

The phased re-opening of retail, construction and personal services such as hairdressers looks set to be delayed until May at the earliest.

On the RTE tracker it says this note the underline part:

Review of Covid measures to be conducted before 4 May

A review of the possible easing of restrictions for the month of May is expected to take place before 4 May.

The Cabinet is currently discussing what changes will happen during April.

However, there is also likely to be some detail announced today about the priorities for May.

They include the reopening of hairdressers and barbers, the phased return of non-essential retail and the full resumption of construction work.

They are phasing it back from the 12th.

Chavways

UsBus wrote: »

If the 5K restriction is affecting you this much, you need to get out and about. You need to be more specific in your excuses to get you through the checkpoints, not just the usual I'm off to do the shopping etc.. I've yet to be questioned on where I work, what I do. Do you carry proof of your address with you..? If not, you can never be too far off your 5k.........
If the 5k restriction was helping, that would be a reason to stay put. But it's not, people who want to maintain their distance from others will continue to do so. And those that are casual about meetups, socializing will do that next door, nevermind 5,10 20k away on a hike.
I can't understand how Darragh O'Brien is getting a free ride with the eviction legislation he linked to the 5K restriction. He should never be in office again.

Well the beach is about an hour drive from the house. I should have no problem getting there but when the Gardai check the registration of the car and all that stuff, I don't have a back up plan. I've heard a story this week of Gardai hanging around the car park at the base of Keeper Hill in Tipperary for a full afternoon to give fines to people coming down off the mountain after a day out going for a hike on their own.

It's that type of stuff that makes me furious with the whole thing. I was well behind the first lockdown last year and understood why we were cautious last Autumn and Winter but there's so little proactivity from the government in policing the real source of cases and acting appropriately that I've lost all hope in it, regardless of the drip feed opening they'll give us tonight.

C.O.Y.B.I.B

facehugger99 wrote: »

Anyone with a functioning brain will be ignoring the latest in a series of Orwellian bolloxology and making up their own minds.

Agree to an extent , however we can't just , go to a match, send the kids training, have a meal out, meet friends for a pint and the 2 families I'd most like to meet up with both have high risk members whos health I don't want to risk

dublinbando

would somebody please think of the birds