Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread XII (The Byrne Supremacy)

armchaircoach

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Really hoping we get the fringe Irish lads back next week.

If we manage to get Ruddock, Ed, Lowe, JGP, Ross, Larmour back that will be helpful.

I'll be pragmatic and say we won't see Frawley or Penny next week which is problematic.

Could be looking at a ROL, JOB midfield.

Or maybe they'll back Osbourne.

Against Farrell and DDA it's s big ask

JOB is injured currently. If Frawley is out I think we'll see Ross Byrne and ROL in the centre, getting Lowe and Larmour back would be really helpful.

If we don't get them back I'm not sure who plays, I Liam Turner?

Squidgy Black

armchaircoach wrote: »

JOB is injured currently. If Frawley is out I think we'll see Ross Byrne and ROL in the centre, getting Lowe and Larmour back would be really helpful.

If we don't get them back I'm not sure who plays, I Liam Turner?

Injured against Scarlets, Osborne came on for him after half time.

arsebiscuits1

armchaircoach wrote: »

JOB is injured currently. If Frawley is out I think we'll see Ross Byrne and ROL in the centre, getting Lowe and Larmour back would be really helpful.

If we don't get them back I'm not sure who plays, I Liam Turner?

I'm working under the assumption that JOB and Kelleher could have played tonight but we're so shorn of backs they didn't risk them.

There's a possibility if we're so stuck that we'll need to look at Harry 10 Ross 12

Clegg

Predicting next week's 15 is very hard as we don't know who we'll actually have available from the test side or who is fit enough to play.

I hope we'll see Porter and Kelleher starting, along with Baird. But the back row is a big issue. Penny might be injured, Connors is definitely out and VDF is starting against England. May not have a 7 available to us. Don't know what we'll do at 8 either.

Squidgy Black

Clegg wrote: »

Predicting next week's 15 is very hard as we don't know who we'll actually have available from the test side or who is for enough to play.

I hope we'll see Porter and Kelleher starting, along with Baird. But the back row is a big issue. Penny might be injured, Connors is definitely out and VDF is starting against England. May not have a 7 available to us. Don't know what we'll do at 8 either.

Josh Murphy at 6, Ruddock at 8 and then god (Nucifora) only knows at 7 would be my guess. Or shift Murphy to 8 again, Ruddock at 7 and Baird at 6.

irishbucsfan

Well in other great news, Munster's young players looked really strong tonight.

And I think the only one of them who got injured was Paddy Patterson? There's something dodgy going on. If they win, its tainted.

armchaircoach

Did Soroka go off injured last week? He seemed to disappear at some point?

Squidgy Black

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Well in other great news, Munster's young players looked really strong tonight.

And I think the only one of them who got injured was Paddy Patterson? There's something dodgy going on. If they win, its tainted.

Leo pulled Rowan at half time to even things out.

arsebiscuits1

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Josh Murphy at 6, Ruddock at 8 and then god (Nucifora) only knows at 7 would be my guess. Or shift Murphy to 8 again, Ruddock at 7 and Baird at 6.

It'll be Ruddock to 7 I reckon with Fardy to 6 and Murphy to 8 if Penny is out.

Fardy did quite well at 6 i think tonight.

molloyjh

Dooley Tracy Bent
Molony Fardy
Ruddock Conan VDF

McGrath HByrne
RByrne ROL
Kearney O'Reilly Larmour

Kelleher, EByrne, Porter, Baird, Toner, HOS, whoever the hell else is fit.

Clegg

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

It'll be Ruddock to 7 I reckon with Fardy to 6 and Murphy to 8 if Penny is out.

Fardy did quite well at 6 i think tonight.

Was Fardy's substitution purely tactical? Was worried that it was another injury. That backrow would be ok for the final. Would give us a lot of power at the ruck and solidity in the lineout. But lacks pace and subtlety. They're all blindsides after all.

H Byrne bottled it in the final 20 minutes but I thought he was very good in everything he did prior to that. Wouldn't have a problem with him starting the final. I think that's probably what will happen anyway. Might play alongside his brother at 12.

arsebiscuits1

molloyjh wrote: »

Dooley Tracy Bent
Molony Fardy
Ruddock Conan VDF

McGrath HByrne
RByrne ROL
Kearney O'Reilly Larmour

Kelleher, EByrne, Porter, Baird, Toner, HOS, whoever the hell else is fit.

Hope to see JOB and Kelleher.

I don't think we will see VDF either.

Squidgy Black

molloyjh wrote: »

Dooley Tracy Bent
Molony Fardy
Ruddock Conan VDF

McGrath HByrne
RByrne ROL
Kearney O'Reilly Larmour

Kelleher, EByrne, Porter, Baird, Toner, HOS, whoever the hell else is fit.

We'll go 6-2 on the bench with Soroka if he's not injured I'd say, Smith in the 22 jersey.

As great as it is to have all IQ players bar Fardy, it's these times that you really miss the likes of Isa and Kirchner etc.

Clegg

Don't see a reason not to have Lowe in the side. Hasn't played much for Leinster this year, but has a point to prove from the Six Nations. We're a much better team with him in it.

Clegg

Dan Sheehan had a decent shift in the backrow. It's obviously not his natural position, but he's such an impressive athlete that he could do a job there. Carried well and led the defensive line when tackling.

Squidgy Black

Clegg wrote: »

Don't see a reason not to have Lowe in the side. Hasn't played much for Leinster this year, but has a point to prove from the Six Nations. We're a much better team with him in it.

Has played every game bar this weekend, as great as it would be to have him back I can see why he'd be under enforced rest with the quarter final to be played too.

shaungil

So good thing the poll name didn’t jinx anyone. Phew

Buer

I would imagine we're looking at a situation next week where many front line internationals aren't available. I presume the IRFU will take it on a case by case basis with minutes played in the 6N factored in. If they play 80 minutes today, it will make them unlikely for next week also.

As such, I think we might get the following back for the 23 (not necessarily starting): Porter, Brian Byrne, Ross Byrne, Baird, Ruddock, Larmour, Lowe, JGP.

I'd think that guys like Conan and VDF may be released depending on how today goes. Conan in particular has little enough rugby in recent times.

That still doesn't alleviate our issues in the centre for next week. As such, I think we might see something like a combination of ROL and JOB (if he's fit) or even RB forced to 12. Frawley didn't look comfortable at all at the end last night. Osborne has impressed but this would be a big ask for him against Farrell and DDA crashing it up.

Former Former Former

The selection process should be

1. Who do we not need for Europe?
2. Play those guys.

Couldn't give a shyyyyte about the Pro14 final (IRFU don't, so why should we?), it's all about Europe.

sebdavis

Former Former Former wrote: »

The selection process should be

1. Who do we not need for Europe?
2. Play those guys.

Couldn't give a shyyyyte about the Pro14 final (IRFU don't, so why should we?), it's all about Europe.

I am sure the players want medals.....sitting at home watching on TV you probably don't give a sh*t

But I am sure all the players who have turned out, stayed in Bubbles to play. Isolated during the season, playing week in week out etc etc etc do care

Former Former Former

sebdavis wrote: »

I am sure the players want medals.....sitting at home watching on TV you probably don't give a sh*t

But I am sure all the players who have turned out, stayed in Bubbles to play. Isolated during the season, playing week in week out etc etc etc do care

Then let's give the young lads a chance to shine. Huzzah.

I'll bet if you ask any of the players who already have four or five ProXX medals which game their focus is on, very few of them would say Munster.

sebdavis

Former Former Former wrote: »

Then let's give the young lads a chance to shine. Huzzah.

I'll bet if you ask any of the players who already have four or five ProXX medals which game their focus is on, very few of them would say Munster.

Really? you dont think Leinster players want to beat Munster in a ProXX final?

F**k me I would expect every Leinster player would love to beat them, hammer them. Keep the 10 year going. If they don't stick up the Zebo video when he says everyone in Munster hate Leinster and he wouldn't sign for 5 mil a season.

thomond2006

sebdavis wrote: »

F**k me I would expect every Leinster player would love to beat them, hammer them. Keep the 10 year going. If they don't stick up the Zebo video when he says everyone in Munster hate Leinster and he wouldn't sign for 5 mil a season.

It's going to be awkward when Zebo signs for Leinster in a few weeks.

sebdavis

thomond2006 wrote: »

It's going to be awkward when Zebo signs for Leinster in a few weeks.

If he does it is for Zebo and nobody else :-)

Former Former Former

sebdavis wrote: »

Really? you dont think Leinster players want to beat Munster in a ProXX final?

F**k me I would expect every Leinster player would love to beat them, hammer them. Keep the 10 year going. If they don't stick up the Zebo video when he says everyone in Munster hate Leinster and he wouldn't sign for 5 mil a season.

???

Genuinely not sure where to start with this.

So I won't.

sydthebeat

Buer wrote: »

I would imagine we're looking at a situation next week where many front line internationals aren't available. I presume the IRFU will take it on a case by case basis with minutes played in the 6N factored in. If they play 80 minutes today, it will make them unlikely for next week also.

As such, I think we might get the following back for the 23 (not necessarily starting): Porter, Brian Byrne, Ross Byrne, Baird, Ruddock, Larmour, Lowe, JGP.

I'd think that guys like Conan and VDF may be released depending on how today goes. Conan in particular has little enough rugby in recent times.

That still doesn't alleviate our issues in the centre for next week. As such, I think we might see something like a combination of ROL and JOB (if he's fit) or even RB forced to 12. Frawley didn't look comfortable at all at the end last night. Osborne has impressed but this would be a big ask for him against Farrell and DDA crashing it up.

Pat Lam will be surprised when he sees Brian Byrne line out against Munster

Buer

sydthebeat wrote: »

Pat Lam will be surprised when he sees Brian Byrne line out against Munster

Secret weapon.

Damn you.

OldRio

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Leo pulled Rowan at half time to even things out.

:eek:

AdamD

Former Former Former wrote: »

The selection process should be

1. Who do we not need for Europe?
2. Play those guys.

Couldn't give a shyyyyte about the Pro14 final (IRFU don't, so why should we?), it's all about Europe.

Don't agree with this at all. I also highly doubt the Leinster squad care so little about a pro 14 final against their biggest rivals..

UAEguy2020

I think we are seeing one of the big problems in Irish rugby after this loss especially, instead of taking our medicine and saying we were all responsible we are just looking for scapegoats to blame the whole performance on.

Yeah let’s blame Harry Byrne, he’s the reason Leinster were destroyed at the break down in the second half, he’s the reason Leinster got destroyed in the scrum, he’s the reason the Leinster players would play with their usual hunger and intensity etc. but because he made one mistake let’s just paper over all the other issues and just blame Harry for the whole **** show of a performance.