Right wing extremist group behind Dublin Protest say Gardai

DelaneysMule

We have probably all seen the disgusting conduct of the use of an explosive toward gardai. Thankfully no garda were hurt in that incident but there were reports of some being hit with projectiles in the shameful violence.



Well-organised right-wing group 'willing to use violence' behind Dublin city centre protest

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/well-organised-right-wing-group-23577819

Senior garda sources said that the organisers are a threat to the very institutions of this state


Senior Garda sources told the Irish Mirror:”These are serious right wing extremists who are behind this.
“They are a well organised network willing to use violent means to achieve their aims
“The organisers are a threat to the very institutions of this state .
“They have made threats online - they have the capacity to carry out their threats.
“They are well organised and pose a real and serious threat .”

quintana76

DelaneysMule wrote: »

We have probably all seen the disgusting conduct of the use of an explosive toward gardai. Thankfully no garda were hurt in that incident but there were reports of some being hit with projectiles in the shameful violence.



Well-organised right-wing group 'willing to use violence' behind Dublin city centre protest

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/well-organised-right-wing-group-23577819

It's the first time I've heard antifa described as right-wing. They must have got their 'wings' mixed up.

frosty123

Right Wing ?? more like left wing anarchists with too much time on their hands I reckonðŸ™႒ðŸ™႒

quintana76

quintana76 wrote: »

It's the first time I've heard antifa described as right-wing. They must have got their 'wings' mixed up.[/quote

frosty123 wrote: »

Right Wing ?? more like left wing anarchists with too much time on their hands I reckonðŸ™႒ðŸ™႒

1/10 for effort

CtevenSrowder

DelaneysMule wrote: »

We have probably all seen the disgusting conduct of the use of an explosive toward gardai. Thankfully no garda were hurt in that incident but there were reports of some being hit with projectiles in the shameful violence.



Well-organised right-wing group 'willing to use violence' behind Dublin city centre protest

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/well-organised-right-wing-group-23577819

Jaysus there will be a certain cohort here creaming themselves with this news.

biko

This seems to be more of the protest from October where anti-mask and anti-lockdown groups also protested.
At that event the Gardai said that there was no permit required for such an event and that it had no role in arresting people for refusing to wear masks or socially distance.

Why did Gardai try to stop the protest this time?
Why are they unwilling to name the group they claim is responsible?

FintanMcluskey

Does the very definition of left or right wing not make the violent protesters left wing?

The right support authority, the left freedom

It’s completely irrelevant of course but why has the media redefined it?

ACitizenErased

The Garda commissioner should’ve said this in the conference yesterday then

Eric Cartman

There we have it folks, proof theres a far right element in SF

Charlie19

From what I saw, it looked like one knob fired a repeater at the Garda, then ran like the coward he is leaving people behind to take the retaliation.

CtevenSrowder

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The Garda commissioner should’ve said this in the conference yesterday then

Yes, bit strange that it wasn't mentioned in an official press conference alright. If it is the case, why not have it publicly stated? 'Senior Garda sources' :rolleyes:

Maybe in a few days it will be confirmed officially.

Harry Palmr

O'QANON and McMaga. A bunch of fools who will be gone when the rest of us can get on with our lives.

SuperSean11

They ran away pretty quickly wasn’t even riot police

salmocab

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Does the very definition of left or right wing not make the violent protesters left wing?

The right support authority, the left freedom

It’s completely irrelevant of course but why has the media redefined it?

The right support the right being the authority. So no it doesn’t make them left wing. However I’m not sure many of those supporters have strong political beliefs beyond getting out and being idiots.

smurgen

Egg on the face of Drew Harris.

https://twitter.com/PTHosford/status/1365953325334728704?s=19

suicide_circus

Remember, this was a mostly peaceful protest

RonanG86

CtevenSrowder wrote: »

Jaysus there will be a certain cohort here creaming themselves with this news.

No doubt there will also be a certain cohort who'll engage in mental gymnastics to blame the left anyway.

biko

Is it too early to mention Trump?

Eric Cartman

biko wrote: »

Is it too early to mention Trump?

Somebody already said mcmaga , its impossible for them to go one thread without vomiting some reference to him

Those anybody know how these chumps organise? It’s clearly not here. Or Reddit. Probably not Twitter.

As for ideology, anti mask and and vaccine ideologies are not confined to the right. A lot of people who are into “wellness” and herbal remedies have been opposed to vaccines (big Pharma) for years. They tend to oppose vaccinations and lockdowns. Anti lockdown groups could easily be left anti authoritarian. Perennial protesters often turn up at these things. Then there’s the lunatics. The anti police types (not anti fa but criminals).

A mixed bunch like the yellow vests.

biko

Deleted User wrote: »

Those anybody know how these chumps organise? It’s clearly not here. Or Reddit. Probably not Twitter.

Maybe they aren't organised. They could be just an idea, like Antifa.

rosser44

They are a well organised network willing to use violent means to achieve their aims

So terrorists then, pretty cut and dried?

Straight from FBI.gov:

Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature.

biko

biko wrote: »

Maybe they aren't organised. They could be just an idea, like Antifa.

True anarchists!

rosser44

rosser44 wrote: »

So terrorists then, pretty cut and dried?

Straight from FBI.gov:

Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature.

Yeh. I don’t think we should take instruction from a police state. Of course the guy who fired the fireworks was a criminal or terrorist. (Blue lives matter). Everybody else were protestors.

The only videos I have seen indicates mostly male, most young ( < 30), home made banners, they were signing ole ole. No speakers.

I wonder will we get any journalism on this.

Collie D

Gas the lengths both sides will go to to say “it was the other lot”. Far right, far left, who gives a ****? They’re all ****ebags although in all likelihood the scumbaggery was carried out by a bunch of scrotes who couldn’t even spell X on a ballot.

landofthetree

It was far left and far right.

Gatling

landofthetree wrote: »

It was far left and far right.

It was a bunch of Muppets on day trip to cause trouble

Cordell

quintana76 wrote: »

It's the first time I've heard antifa described as right-wing. They must have got their 'wings' mixed up.

It's a quite honest mistake to make given how similar far left and far right is, especially in their love of achieving their goals with violence.
In fact antifa have more in common with the far right nazi they claim to be against than with the moderate left.

biko

rosser44 wrote: »

So terrorists then, pretty cut and dried?

Straight from FBI.gov:

Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature.

As it happens Ireland isn't USA.

The main body of counter-terrorism legislation in Ireland is the Offences against the State Acts 1939-1998.

These Acts were introduced and have been primarily used to counter the threat posed by the IRA.

The Act criminalises many actions deemed detrimental to state security. An organisation can be made subject to a suppression order under the act, after which being a member of or directing the activities of such an unlawful organisation becomes an offence.

The opinion of a senior Garda can be admitted as prima facie evidence of membership.

Harry Palmr

Deleted User wrote: »

Those anybody know how these chumps organise? It’s clearly not here. Or Reddit. Probably not Twitter.

As for ideology, anti mask and and vaccine ideologies are not confined to the right. A lot of people who are into “wellness” and herbal remedies have been opposed to vaccines (big Pharma) for years. They tend to oppose vaccinations and lockdowns. Anti lockdown groups could easily be left anti authoritarian. Perennial protesters often turn up at these things. Then there’s the lunatics. The anti police types (not anti fa but criminals).

A mixed bunch like the yellow vests.

They use Telegram. The "wellness" crowd tend to post pious nonsense on twitter/instagram rather than march or riot

Among the protesters was Erica Parker, a mother of one from Swords, who was drinking a can of Heineken while holding a flyer from the National Party. Parker and her friend Susan wore matching black hoodies which said “RTE sold there [sic] souls” and “Save our children from the reptilians”.

Parker said she was protesting against the lockdown and vaccines. “We’re here to protest against RTE as well,” she added. Her friend said over “9,000 people went missing in Ireland last year”.

Asked how this was linked to RTE, the pair outlined a conspiracy theory that involved babies being killed and harvested for “adrenochrome” which is used to keep RTE celebrities “looking young” while the corpses are buried under the new children’s hospital.

The two claimed the government were “basically paedophiles” and that there were videos explaining this on a website known for hosting far-right speakers and conspiracy theories.

Eric Cartman

glasso wrote: »

My brain hurts reading that theory

Is that from Q or some other source?

McHardcore

Among the protesters was Erica Parker, a mother of one from Swords, who was drinking a can of Heineken while holding a flyer from the National Party. Parker and her friend Susan wore matching black hoodies which said “RTE sold there [sic] souls” and “Save our children from the reptilians”.

Is "reptilian" a euphemism, or do the National Party supporters actually believe Ryan Tubridy and co. are lizard people?

Harry Palmr

Welcome to Amerika.

This is where "Trumpism" gets you. Hell she is even the build and colour of a classic Trump supporter - a slightly raddled, excess warpaint and probably too long in the sun middled aged blonde.

Del.Monte

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Welcome to Amerika.

This is where "Trumpism" gets you. Hell she is even the build and colour of a classic Trump supporter - a slightly raddled, excess warpaint and probably too long in the sun middled aged blonde.

She's just jealous that she can't get hold of some 'adrenochrome' as she could seriously do with some but it's far to late. Too much alcohol and cheap Spanish holidays.

Harry Palmr

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Welcome to Amerika.

This is where "Trumpism" gets you. Hell she is even the build and colour of a classic Trump supporter - a slightly raddled, excess warpaint and probably too long in the sun middled aged blonde.

Well unless trump is authoring this stuff, it’s hard to blame him. The US is exporting crazy ideologies these days though.

It’s interesting where this comes from. Q or QAnon are implicated in the capitol riots as well. Are we any closer to finding out where Q is or who he is?

CtevenSrowder

RonanG86 wrote: »

No doubt there will also be a certain cohort who'll engage in mental gymnastics to blame the left anyway.

Well yes that has happened on the first page of the thread.

astrofool

It seems to have been a bunch of people with mental illnesses, I don't think categorising them as far left or far right would describe it accurately as it's likely to be a mix of mythologies.

Anyone who was there from a political party should be turfed out of that party as soon as possible.

glasso

glasso wrote: »

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So much for the Looney Left.

kona

Youd have some craic just making up absoloute nonsense and feeding it to the media at these events. Completely discredits any sort of point being made at the protest then. Add in some poor grammar for extra spice. Genius.

NeuralNetwork

We’re not quite in “Amerika” as none of their candidates seem to poll even high enough to even get anywhere near a seat in an electoral system with fully open proportional and almost no barrier to getting on a ticket. So basically they’re a small, noisy rabble with extremely limited political traction.

“Amerika” is where conspiracy theorists are currently dominating one of their two largest political parties and have held the presidency, and still claim that they do.

What we have is a bubble of “Amerika” online that’s turning up on the streets once in a while.

salmocab

astrofool wrote: »

It seems to have been a bunch of people with mental illnesses, I don't think categorising them as far left or far right would describe it accurately as it's likely to be a mix of mythologies.

Anyone who was there from a political party should be turfed out of that party as soon as possible.

Yeah I’m inclined to agree, they are just morons making noise and I doubt too many have strong beliefs or understanding of political ideals.

ThunbergsAreGo

What makes this group right wing and not just scumbag morons?

I don't they are making decisions to attend based on fiscal policy.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Well unless trump is authoring this stuff, it’s hard to blame him. The US is exporting crazy ideologies these days though.

It’s interesting where this comes from. Q or QAnon are implicated in the capitol riots as well. Are we any closer to finding out where Q is or who he is?

it's a hodge-podge of David Icke (reptilians), Qanon and Pizzagate with an Irish slant on it.

too many cheap cans coupled with facebook groups + telegram etc

"socia media" ends up being a looney rabbit-hole for these sorts of half-wits and gobshytes like the National Party provide a black-hole gravity point for them in Ireland.

CtevenSrowder

Deleted User wrote: »

So much for the Looney Left.

I can't see how anti-fa, whatever of it even exists in Ireland, would've had much to do with yesterday. At the protest there were no BLM tshirts, LGBTIAQ2++ flags, Palestinian flags or such that would suggest anti-fa. From the videos I've seen it looked like a rag-tag bunch of eejits out to cause a bit of trouble, and will use whatever 'cause' they can find.

trellheim

What makes this group right wing and not just scumbag morons?

Organisation . This is what has been bothering me. A poster above wondered where they are organizing - it ain't here or Reddit

biko

Epic!
Now I also want a "Save our children from the reptilians" t-shirt.

ExMachina1000

DelaneysMule wrote: »

We have probably all seen the disgusting conduct of the use of an explosive toward gardai. Thankfully no garda were hurt in that incident but there were reports of some being hit with projectiles in the shameful violence.



Well-organised right-wing group 'willing to use violence' behind Dublin city centre protest

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/well-organised-right-wing-group-23577819

An explosive?

Youd swear they were lobbing molotov cocktails and grenades.

Minister for justice just said it was "an illegal protest " .

No such thing. Nor does she get to decide.

No mention of illegal blm protests

CtevenSrowder

trellheim wrote: »

Organisation . This is what has been bothering me. A poster above wondered where they are organizing - it ain't here or Reddit

But sure boards.ie is the home of the far right in Ireland according to some.

ThunbergsAreGo

trellheim wrote: »

Organisation . This is what has been bothering me. A poster above wondered where they are organizing - it ain't here or Reddit

Telegram etc

I think both far right and far left need their own classification as "crazy wing".

These people yesterday have very little in common with centre right people (and same with the left btw)