Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

uli84

VinLieger wrote: »

MM just told the FF parliamentary party that we might see a move from 5km to 10km restrictions for the April 5th. Why is he telling the parliamentary party this when he knows it will leak confusing issues especially only a day after addressing the nation and making no mention of this at all?
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How generous where everywhere else in Europe people can travel freely within their own country or district right now. Oh we might...

Happydays2020

pjohnson wrote: »

And yet you want to go to a rally with a talk from an anti-vaxxer?

The talk from the anti-vaxxer is not on national TV and radio.

Idbatterim

I hope many never forget what ffg have done. Between the upcoming austerity, appalling decision making and zero leadership. This could he the beginning of the end for many political careers here and brutally ff and fg , with pub closures , businesses going bust will be done. In dublin, shutting construction will make housing catastrophe worse than ever. They are done and I am delighted. Decades of rule by populism and jaw dropping financial mismanagement...

RGS

MM telling his FF party 5km MAY move to 10Km is again another example of the poor communication of the government. He knew it would get leaked.

If MM thinks this kite flying will assuage peoples anger he is mistaken.

normanoffside

Deleted User wrote: »

An example from one of the emails, sent by Sinéad Ní Fhaoláin: "Oisin/Anthony to contact An Taoiseach. Hook is that the new strain is the key driver at the moment (may or may not be true, but offers government the chance to line up with our proposals)"

That email was sent a few days before MM started talking about the new strain being more contagious/deadly going against De Gascun's analysis at the time

Eric Cartman

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Whatever about the former the salon owner broke the law and was correctly arrested having also brought along Ben Gilroy for the craic.

I think anyone who engages ben gilroy would struggle to garner my sympathy, but I feel like all of this was bens idea, he was probably going business to business till he found someone to believe his guff , this woman feeling the repercussions now and gilroy can move along to his next victim

RGS

RGS wrote: »

MM telling his FF party 5km MAY move to 10Km is again another example of the poor communication of the government. He knew it would get leaked.

If MM thinks this kite flying will assuage peoples anger he is mistaken.

The important word is MAY. Lots of restrictions MAY be eased in April.

normanoffside

pjohnson wrote: »

And yet you want to go to a rally with a talk from an anti-vaxxer?

The biggest anti-vaxxers at the moment are the ISAG group. They are sowing fear that the vaccines are ineffective

Boggles

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I think anyone who engages ben gilroy would struggle to garner my sympathy, but I feel like all of this was bens idea, he was probably going business to business till he found someone to believe his guff , this woman feeling the repercussions now and gilroy can move along to his next victim

According to her daughter she hasn't received financial supports since October from the government.

Which throws up the pertinent question, why not?

Supports are openly available to all legitimate businesses, including up to €5000 a week based on 2019 turnover.

pjohnson

normanoffside wrote: »

The biggest anti-vaxxers at the moment are the ISAG group. They are sowing fear that the vaccines are ineffective

They arent claiming vaccines kill people like the bloke you were championing for days.

Pepsirebel

RGS wrote: »

MM telling his FF party 5km MAY move to 10Km is again another example of the poor communication of the government. He knew it would get leaked.

If MM thinks this kite flying will assuage peoples anger he is mistaken.

10km doesn't really make that much difference to be honest, county wide would be better...none at all really but county would be fair & give people hope that we're heading the right direction

growleaves

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batman_oh

Pepsirebel wrote: »

10km doesn't really make that much difference to be honest, county wide would be better...none at all really but county would be fair & give people hope that we're heading the right direction

It seems like the absolute bare minimum thing to try and save face after their awful efforts with this latest extension.
County wide would at least put us in line with some other countries in the world, 10km is nonsense. Especially if it's done from 5th April and will probably last 5-6 weeks.

Boggles

Boggles wrote: »

According to her daughter she hasn't received financial supports since October from the government.

Which throws up the pertinent question, why not?

Supports are openly available to all legitimate businesses, including up to €5000 a week based on 2019 turnover.

Her Fundraising page will sort that. https://www.gofundme.com/f/supporting-christine-mctiernan

Gavlor

Idbatterim wrote: »

I hope many never forget what ffg have done. Between the upcoming austerity, appalling decision making and zero leadership. This could he the beginning of the end for many political careers here and brutally ff and fg , with pub closures , businesses going bust will be done. In dublin, shutting construction will make housing catastrophe worse than ever. They are done and I am delighted. Decades of rule by populism and jaw dropping financial mismanagement...

Not disputing anything you’re saying but there’s a real lack of a serious alternative.

If you want to avoid govt by populism then that’s SF out of the equation. The Irish political structure is a mess.

pjohnson

Gavlor wrote: »

Not disputing anything you’re saying but there’s a real lack of a serious alternative.

If you want to avoid govt by populism then that’s SF out of the equation. The Irish political structure is a mess.

Hes an FG voter who has been hoping people suffer in a future recession.

paw patrol

kinda off topic


But fcuking hell, does the cult of victimhood never take a rest.
i've fellas i know stressed to the point of seeking help from their GP cos they cant provide for their families and are racking up debts.

But it's not a fcuking competition.

we all all in this together.:rolleyes:

Women have been disproportionately hit by the effects of the Covid pandemic and are bearing the burden of homeschooling and caring, according to Dr Rhona Mahony.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/women-are-bearing-the-brunt-in-this-pandemic-dr-rhona-mahony-on-her-new-role-and-how-holles-street-coped-with-covid-40129053.html

Eric Cartman

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Her Fundraising page will sort that. https://www.gofundme.com/f/supporting-christine-mctiernan

Id imagine ben will be back for a cut of that

I wonder will Darina be charged? https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40233155.html

newuser99999

Boggles wrote: »

According to her daughter she hasn't received financial supports since October from the government.

Which throws up the pertinent question, why not?

Supports are openly available to all legitimate businesses, including up to €5000 a week based on 2019 turnover.

She’d need to have a weekly turnover of €20,000 to receive €2,000 have you even looked into these supports or are you just spouting nonsense?

Chomper.

Michael Martin is assistant level management at best

Tanaiste can't really be trusted

Real lack of leadership now in time of crisis

pjohnson

Boggles wrote: »

According to her daughter she hasn't received financial supports since October from the government.

Which throws up the pertinent question, why not?

Supports are openly available to all legitimate businesses, including up to €5000 a week based on 2019 turnover.

Likely the issue tbf.


Who knows what other health and safety standards she skipped over day to day anyway.

Boggles

newuser99999 wrote: »

She’d need to have a weekly turnover of €20,000 to receive €2,000 have you even looked into these supports or are you just spouting nonsense?

Nothing I said was not factual.

She is entitled to a raft of supports, including PUP, differed payments, income support for employees, a percentage of her turn over.

But she hasn't received anything in 5 months, do you know why?

pjohnson

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Her Fundraising page will sort that. https://www.gofundme.com/f/supporting-christine-mctiernan

Surprised thats not been pulled, saw on reddit and twitter people were reporting it for being a scam.

CalamariFritti

pjohnson wrote: »

And yet you want to go to a rally with a talk from an anti-vaxxer?

Have you actually any points to make yourself or is dropping in with snipy one-liners all you're capable of?

Chomper.

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

I'm no huge fan of Varadkar but I think his handling of this, both as Taoiseach and as Tanaiste, has been miles ahead of Martin.

Yes ,I'd rather have varadkar in charge

He has displayed some competency

FintanMcluskey

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Hold on, I was under the impression from reports this morning that the 5km would be lifted entirely or at least move to county restrictions if the numbers were low enough. Is it really only 10km that's under consideration?

Considering moving to 10km in March might be reasonable. If that's the best we can hope for in April, we're going to be in this for a while yet. Do any other countries have restrictions like this?

Don’t know about that, but one metric claims only 5 countries have a stricter lockdown currently. But one of those is the Uk which is on the road to normality, and construction is still open there.

That study may only take into account basic human right infringement, it may not also include business closures

Ironically of the 5 countries, of which the UK is one, only 2 of them are democracies.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.breakingnews.ie/amp/ireland/ireland-under-strictest-lockdown-in-eu-claims-oxford-report-1086454.html

Ireland is living under one of the harshest coronavirus lockdowns in the world, according to an ongoing analysis from Oxford University.

Of course Ireland also was so last year.

Ireland now has a score of 85.19. This is down from a high of 87.96 earlier in February, before in-person classes resumed in special education schools.

So before that Ireland likely were 2nd only to another police state.

newuser99999

Boggles wrote: »

Nothing I said was not factual.

She is entitled to a raft of supports, including PUP, differed payments, income support for employees, a percentage of her turn over.

But she hasn't received anything in 5 months, do you know why?

€350 a week to cover her own bills since she’s out of work and to cover the expenses of the business. What difference does income support for the employees make to her? She could’ve just let them go.

That seems like “a raft” of support alright

treade1

The 5km travel ban doesn't bother me because I am free to travel beyond it with a reasonable excuse. There are very few checkpoints about anyway and most of the time you are waved through.

What bothers me is schools closed, all sport for kids and adults cancelled, restaurants and gastropubs closed, shops closed. I'm not really a pub drinker anymore so don't miss the pubs.

Graham

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

So before that Ireland likely were 2nd only to another police state.

engage, educate, encourage, enforce

I think you have some very strange notions of a 'police state'.