Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

SnuggyBear

Silentcorner wrote: »

It is a great comfort to see so many people seeing through the complete hysteria pumped at us every day, under the guide of "experts" who have been consistently wrong from the very start yet here they are today, still getting airtime....and by wrong I don't mean underestimating the threat of the virus, I mean a complete over estimation of the threat...the numbers however don't lie.

You'd wonder, at what point will the penny drop with the hardened anti science lock downers...what will be the straw that breaks the camels back as it were....you'd have thought the ridiculous 5km limit being stretched till May it seems would be the straw, but that hasn't happened...what will it take to break them?

The government defence force is battening down the hatches for a last stand.

UsBus

timmyntc wrote: »

Thanks for that.

That really is mad - tying a ban of evictions to a 5km travel limit seems dubious at best - also moving house is a valid reason to go beyond 5km limit, so would wonder how the eviction ban can tie in with that rule.

So as a homeowner unaffected by eviction, the 5km restriction is of no interest to me. Same for tenants who can prove they have a valid tenancy and are not in danger of eviction. I'd imagine there are former Soviet Eastern block countries reading about this dictatorship and shaking their heads.....

copeyhagen

Pitch n Putt wrote: »

So our latest living with not living with covid plan is another shambles. Kick the can on down the road until another few hundred thousand are vaccinated.

This is a monumental disgrace at this stage.

Awaiting the high case numbers and increased deaths this evening to somehow try and justify this.

The shows nearly over though. Once evenings get brighter people ain’t going to be listening anymore.

It’s getting to the point now where its the people ourselves have to start relaxing the restrictions. Take the control away from NPHET and government.

A year on and the plan is we have no plan.

we ened businesses to open back up though, otherwise its pointless.

Boggles

UsBus wrote: »

So as a homeowner unaffected by eviction, the 5km restriction is of no interest to me. Same for tenants who can prove they have a valid tenancy and are not in danger of eviction. I'd imagine there are former Soviet Eastern block countries reading about this dictatorship and shaking their heads.....

"Homeowners" can and have been evicted.

As a homer owner they want you to stay at home, the 5km is an exercise limit.

Whether it interests you or not doesn't really matter.

copeyhagen

Boggles wrote: »

"Homeowners" can and have been evicted.

As a homer owner they want you to stay at home, the 5km is an exercise limit.

Whether it interests you or not doesn't really matter.

morning Boggles, how'd ya sleep?

Riodej1578

Pitch n Putt wrote: »

So our latest living with not living with covid plan is another shambles. Kick the can on down the road until another few hundred thousand are vaccinated.

This is a monumental disgrace at this stage.

Awaiting the high case numbers and increased deaths this evening to somehow try and justify this.

The shows nearly over though. Once evenings get brighter people ain’t going to be listening anymore.

It’s getting to the point now where its the people ourselves have to start relaxing the restrictions. Take the control away from NPHET and government.

A year on and the plan is we have no plan.

It's disgraceful. What's the point of the vaccination role out at all if there is no correlation to easing restrictions? These are the actions we would be taking without a vaccine.

You are right, people will start controlling the restrictions themselves now.

Graham

Riodej1578 wrote: »

It's disgraceful. What's the point of the vaccination role out at all if there is no correlation to easing restrictions?

When was that announced?

Boggles

copeyhagen wrote: »

morning Boggles, how'd ya sleep?

Not great.

I'd a dream the lizard people bought the Journal and were using it to disseminate misinformation to the youth.

I was going to post about it, but someone else had the same dream apparently.

facehugger99

Boggles wrote: »

It does quite a bit, one tangible thing it does while in place is it prevents evictions.

One wonders is there a limit to the amount of bull**** the lockdown-cheerleaders would swallow and regurgitate with a straight face.


It would appear there isn't.

UsBus

Boggles wrote: »

"Homeowners" can and have been evicted.

As a homer owner they want you to stay at home, the 5km is an exercise limit.

Whether it interests you or not doesn't really matter.

Yes, it was presented as an exercise limit, and to reduce movement with the aim of avoiding the spread of Covid. Not as a measure to avoid evictions.

Can't wait to hear the excuse to evict me from the home I own outright..?
They'll have to phone in advance of the eviction notice cause I won't be home....:-)

CruelSummer

Graham wrote: »

When was that announced?

- 9 more weeks of Level 5, Mícheal Martin
- 'Summer outdoors' and a crap 2021 - Prof Philip Nolan
- No indoor dining, hospitality at all in 2021 stated multiple times, despite having it open for a lot of Summer 2020 with no vaccines
- Zero Covid nutty professor group - 4th waves, vaccines won't work

We're an utter disgrace in this Country - what a sad reflection on our Education system that this is the way our Scientists present their opinions as facts.

Professor Chris Whitty -
"However, he said the country would need to get used to a certain number of Covid-19 deaths every year as the virus would not be eliminated.

“Every year in the UK, as in every other country, you get substantial numbers of people dying from respiratory infections,” he said.

”Flu kills around 9,000 a year, and bad years are significantly more, but there are also pneumonia and adenoviruses and other respiratory infections.

“I’m afraid, for the foreseeable future, coronavirus is going to be added to that list of things that those who are vulnerable – even despite vaccination – can be at risk of.”

He said coronavirus was “likely to be a problem, in particular, in the winter for the next few winters”.

The population of Ireland cannot tolerate what is currently happening, while our nearest neighbours give their people their lives back. Vaccination roll out should have a direct impact on restrictions being lifted.

Boggles

facehugger99 wrote: »

One wonders is there a limit to the amount of bull**** the lockdown-cheerleaders would swallow and regurgitate with a straight face.


It would appear there isn't.

Have you ever met a fact you haven't disagreed with?

It must be exhausting to be that constantly outraged.

dalyboy

Riodej1578 wrote: »

It's disgraceful. What's the point of the vaccination role out at all if there is no correlation to easing restrictions? These are the actions we would be taking without a vaccine.

You are right, people will start controlling the restrictions themselves now.

They’re humming and hawing about crappy staycations for summer 2021.
Totally off their heads.
Even with NO vaccines last summer the miserable staycations were allowed.

It’s seems they are inviting public dissent on themselves.

Frozen Veg

Are long term restrictions like this permitted under the constitution?

Can you prevent someone form going more than 5km of their home for months?

Can you stop a family who needs a place to live building their home for months?

Can you stop people opening their business for months on end?

I'm fully supportive of the public effort required. However, the government's approach has become inhumane and unrealistic. You cannot keep people cooked up in their homes for months on end. Covid presents risks but there needs to be balance of the risks that the lockdown is causing on people's long term health and the economy.

There needs to be return to some outdoor activities that can be done safely.

And the major major issue is that the restrictions that are in place aren't been enforced by our justice system. The only ones being punished are those who do try to comply.

ypres5

CruelSummer wrote: »

- 9 more weeks of Level 5, Mícheal Martin
- 'Summer outdoors' and a crap 2021 - Prof Philip Nolan
- No indoor dining, hospitality at all in 2021 stated multiple times, despite having it open for a lot of Summer 2020 with no vaccines
- Zero Covid nutty professor group - 4th waves, vaccines won't work

We're an utter disgrace in this Country - what a sad reflection on our Education system that this is the way our Scientists present their opinions as facts.

Professor Chris Whitty -
"However, he said the country would need to get used to a certain number of Covid-19 deaths every year as the virus would not be eliminated.

“Every year in the UK, as in every other country, you get substantial numbers of people dying from respiratory infections,” he said.

”Flu kills around 9,000 a year, and bad years are significantly more, but there are also pneumonia and adenoviruses and other respiratory infections.

“I’m afraid, for the foreseeable future, coronavirus is going to be added to that list of things that those who are vulnerable – even despite vaccination – can be at risk of.”

He said coronavirus was “likely to be a problem, in particular, in the winter for the next few winters”.

The population of Ireland cannot tolerate what is currently happening, while our nearest neighbours give their people their lives back. Vaccination roll out should have a direct impact on restrictions being lifted.

wait did someone just say that old people died before covid? going by the way people have been talking about covid deaths in ireland the past year one would think that old people just ran away to the farm or something

Hellrazer

CruelSummer wrote: »

- 9 more weeks of Level 5, Mícheal Martin
- 'Summer outdoors' and a crap 2021 - Prof Philip Nolan
- No indoor dining, hospitality at all in 2021 stated multiple times, despite having it open for a lot of Summer 2020 with no vaccines
- Zero Covid nutty professor group - 4th waves, vaccines won't work

.

Its an outright ****ing joke.

I just cant get head around the fact that all the studies with countries miles ahead of us in the vaccine roll out have proven that the vaccines work.

And the ones saying they wont work are professors / doctors and trained medical staff.

Do they know something the rest of us dont?


Absolute shambles of a country.

Graham

CruelSummer wrote: »

- 9 more weeks of Level 5, Mícheal Martin
- 'Summer outdoors' and a crap 2021 - Prof Philip Nolan
- No indoor dining, hospitality at all in 2021 stated multiple times, despite having it open for a lot of Summer 2020 with no vaccines
- Zero Covid nutty professor group - 4th waves, vaccines won't work

We're an utter disgrace in this Country - what a sad reflection on our Education system that this is the way our Scientists present their opinions as facts.

Professor Chris Whitty -
"However, he said the country would need to get used to a certain number of Covid-19 deaths every year as the virus would not be eliminated.

“Every year in the UK, as in every other country, you get substantial numbers of people dying from respiratory infections,” he said.

”Flu kills around 9,000 a year, and bad years are significantly more, but there are also pneumonia and adenoviruses and other respiratory infections.

“I’m afraid, for the foreseeable future, coronavirus is going to be added to that list of things that those who are vulnerable – even despite vaccination – can be at risk of.”

He said coronavirus was “likely to be a problem, in particular, in the winter for the next few winters”.

The population of Ireland cannot tolerate what is currently happening, while our nearest neighbours give their people their lives back. Vaccination roll out should have a direct impact on restrictions being lifted.

Which part of that do you think suggests restrictions and vaccinations won't be connected?

Graham

Frozen Veg wrote: »

the major major issue is that the restrictions that are in place aren't been enforced by our justice system. The only ones being punished are those who do try to comply.

This

retro:electro

[Deleted User] wrote: »

There is a lot of the problem on this thread summed up in one word. Anyone who doesn’t always agree with the narrative being set on the thread is “sneering”

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yeah, right. Spoofer

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Do you guys even question this alternative universe you have created for yourselves

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Fantasy stuff. Keep it going

[Deleted User] wrote: »

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Hmm.. I wonder why people think that??

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Very little, “I believe you are wrong and here’s why”

Very little of that out of you too.. and those are just the posts you made after your “sneering” one.


That was almost too easy :pac:

Hellrazer

silverharp wrote: »

if they relax some restrictions but keep the 5K, it will be telling, they need to go back to 20K or county at the soonest when the weather picks up or people will just ignore it anyway

And you`ll just have ordinary people fined if they dont move the 5k - ordinary people that just want to walk their dog / bring their kids out for a walk etc.

Just this Sunday there were checkpoints at Donedea Forest park, Castletown in Celbridge and St Catherines park - all outside my 5k - my poor dogs were very disappointed :D

silverharp

Hellrazer wrote: »

And you`ll just have ordinary people fined if they dont move the 5k - ordinary people that just want to walk their dog / bring their kids out for a walk etc.

Just this Sunday there were checkpoints at Donedea Forest park, Castletown in Celbridge and St Catherines park - all outside my 5k - my poor dogs were very disappointed :D

Papiere, bitte! ..remember not to say Good Luck.

Jinglejangle69

A beauty salon owner in balbriggan has opened today and is fully booked.

She was on the radio.

Polar101

CruelSummer wrote: »

- 9 more weeks of Level 5, Mícheal Martin
- 'Summer outdoors' and a crap 2021 - Prof Philip Nolan
- No indoor dining, hospitality at all in 2021 stated multiple times, despite having it open for a lot of Summer 2020 with no vaccines
- Zero Covid nutty professor group - 4th waves, vaccines won't work

Hard to see any of those happening, really.

pm1977x

Frozen Veg wrote: »

Are long term restrictions like this permitted under the constitution?

I wouldn't ask any constitutional questions in this thread, yesterday we were told in no uncertain terms that a passport is a constitutional right and plenty of sheep were going along with it until it was exposed as a bare-faced lie. Don't think they even had the good grace to apologise or admit their error, just kept digging.

hynesie08

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

A beauty salon owner in balbriggan has opened today and is fully booked.

She was on the radio.

If this is true, she's the dumbest person walking the planet by advertising it.

Nice way to get a picture of your salon in the paper though.

timmyntc

hynesie08 wrote: »

If this is true, she's the dumbest person walking the planet by advertising it.

Nice way to get a picture of your salon in the paper though.

I think the point is to get publicity. I'm sure she knows she'll get shut down promptly, but after her the hope is that more will follow suit.

It puts pressure on govt, just the first of many small acts of defiance to come

Jinglejangle69

hynesie08 wrote: »

If this is true, she's the dumbest person walking the planet by advertising it.

Nice way to get a picture of your salon in the paper though.

Was on classic hits news.

Says she has the right to earn a living and put food on the table.

whippet

I just saw a video of her opening on facebook - Ben Gilroy at her side ... blabbering about rights under the constitution - so if she is getting legal advice from Gilroy you can be fairly sure is all nonsense.

doublejobbing 2

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8945387/Coronavirus-Europe-Christmas-cancelled-amid-soaring-cases.html

The state of the comments from these entitled wastes of space. Wuuh ma mental health. I need Christmas so you lads can have another five months indoors.

Boggles

timmyntc wrote: »

I think the point is to get publicity. I'm sure she knows she'll get shut down promptly, but after her the hope is that more will follow suit.

It puts pressure on govt, just the first of many small acts of defiance to come

It doesn't.