Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX Read OP For Mod Warnings

normanoffside · 23-02-2021 10:52AM

Boggles wrote: »

It does quite a bit, one tangible thing it does while in place is it prevents evictions.

An Irish solution to an Irish problem?

Why do the Gards need to enforce it then?

23-02-2021 10:53AM

treade1 wrote: »

The journal has been a disgrace throughout the pandemic. At the start of the lockdown they were begging for donations/subscribers but that changed quickly. They were obviously bailed out by the government and used as an other arm of the propaganda machine to reach the younger demographic they cannot reach via RTE. There so called self appointed factcheckers are shameless. Anyone on the comments section who questions the narrative is silenced - myself included. Consequently anyone reading the comments thinks the vast majority are in favor of lockdown and hears no dissenting opinions.

Do you guys even question this alternative universe you have created for yourselves

timmyntc · 23-02-2021 10:54AM

Boggles wrote: »

It does quite a bit, one tangible thing it does while in place is it prevents evictions.

In what sane world would a 5km travel limit prevent evictions?

copeyhagen · 23-02-2021 10:54AM

uli84 wrote: »

https://www.thejournal.ie/ireland-is-getting-a-new-covid-roadmap-but-whats-happening-in-other-countries-right-now-5362224-Feb2021/

@Graham, your folks are sorted:

Spain has also started to roll back on its restrictions. Changes have been made to Madrid’s curfew time, with it moving from 10pm to 11pm, for instance.

Bars and restaurants can stay open until 11pm.

Even Madrid is open until 11pm, tell them 'Copeyhagen said enjoy your revenue stream reopening and youre freedom'

cheers

hynesie08 · 23-02-2021 10:55AM

timmyntc wrote: »

In what sane world would a 5km travel limit prevent evictions?

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1362146624412282880?s=20

paw patrol · 23-02-2021 10:55AM

Leftwaffe wrote: »

If the rumoured plan that has been leaked (again...) to the press is true then it doesn’t offer much hope of any at all.

no targets again :mad:

Silentcorner · 23-02-2021 10:55AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah, right. Spoofer

You were the one caught exaggerating excess deaths, you are not in any position to call anybody anything...I have clearly made my point and expressed an opinion based on what we do already know and provided a source...You've had the wool pulled over your eyes by the sharp brains in The Journal **sniggers**

copeyhagen · 23-02-2021 10:55AM

timmyn:(tc wrote: »

In what sane world would a 5km travel limit prevent evictions?

was psoted before, the govt said it last week

23-02-2021 10:57AM

Silentcorner wrote: »

You were the one caught exaggerating excess deaths, you are not in any position to call anybody anything...I have clearly made my point and expressed an opinion based on what we do already know and provided a source...You've had the wool pulled over your eyes by the sharp brains in The Journal **sniggers**

Fantasy stuff. Keep it going

timmyntc · 23-02-2021 11:01AM

hynesie08 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1362146624412282880?s=20

Thanks for that.

That really is mad - tying a ban of evictions to a 5km travel limit seems dubious at best - also moving house is a valid reason to go beyond 5km limit, so would wonder how the eviction ban can tie in with that rule.

paw patrol · 23-02-2021 11:01AM

treade1 wrote: »

The journal has been a disgrace throughout the pandemic. At the start of the lockdown they were begging for donations/subscribers but that changed quickly. They were obviously bailed out by the government and used as an other arm of the propaganda machine to reach the younger demographic they cannot reach via RTE. There so called self appointed factcheckers are shameless. Anyone on the comments section who questions the narrative is silenced - myself included. Consequently anyone reading the comments thinks the vast majority are in favor of lockdown and hears no dissenting opinions.

you may recall that chap took out a page in the IT stating covid19 facts.
their fact checker stated that despite the facts being correct the ad was false cos it sent the wrong message - or some banal fudge like that.
you couldn't make it up

but it got better (or worse) - the hero staffer from the journal then attacked the IT on twitter for publishing such a reckless ad - in her opinion - there should be only 1 view no discussion or dissent.

This is just one example but covid has shown clearly that journalism is dead in ireland.

As Michael McNamara TD said in the dail - "they want government funding and they deserve it they've been doing your bidding for the past year"

Graham · 23-02-2021 11:07AM

copeyhagen wrote: »

@Graham, your folks are sorted:

Even Madrid is open until 11pm, tell them 'Copeyhagen said enjoy your revenue stream reopening and youre freedom'

cheers

I'll let them know they should move to Madrid and leave you to delight in how clever you think you're being.

:rolleyes:

SnuggyBear · 23-02-2021 11:07AM

I'm definitely not paying a fine if I get one after hearing this

Graham · 23-02-2021 11:08AM

SnuggyBear wrote: »

I'm definitely not paying a fine if I get one after hearing this

lol

Graham · 23-02-2021 11:09AM

timmyntc wrote: »

Thanks for that.

That really is mad - tying a ban of evictions to a 5km travel limit seems dubious at best - also moving house is a valid reason to go beyond 5km limit, so would wonder how the eviction ban can tie in with that rule.

You don't need to be evicted to move house.

timmyntc · 23-02-2021 11:11AM

Graham wrote: »

You don't need to be evicted to move house.

What is the justification for a ban on evictions when the 5k rule is in place?

Because it can't be that you cant evict someone because they cant find & move to a new place, because moving house is permitted.
So what is the justification in tying the ban to the 5km limit?

SnuggyBear · 23-02-2021 11:14AM

Graham wrote: »

lol

lol

SnuggyBear · 23-02-2021 11:15AM

timmyntc wrote: »

What is the justification for a ban on evictions when the 5k rule is in place?

Because it can't be that you cant evict someone because they cant find & move to a new place, because moving house is permitted.
So what is the justification in tying the ban to the 5km limit?

There is no point arguing with the government defence force

Multipass · 23-02-2021 11:15AM

SnuggyBear wrote: »

This 5k story is unbelievable. Just when you thought they couldn't get any worse

I’m feeling really physically sick this morning with anger about this. It’s so beyond outrageous.

Graham · 23-02-2021 11:19AM

timmyntc wrote: »

What is the justification for a ban on evictions when the 5k rule is in place?

Because it can't be that you cant evict someone because they cant find & move to a new place, because moving house is permitted.
So what is the justification in tying the ban to the 5km limit?

My guess would be it was the easiest was of ensuring that no evictions occurred during the highest level of restrictions.

copeyhagen · 23-02-2021 11:20AM

Graham wrote: »

I'll let them know they should move to Madrid and leave you to delight in how clever you think you're being.

:rolleyes:

well Madrid and Sevilla were both wost hit, and both reopened so it doesnt matter what part theyre in now, theyre free to open, whole Country/municipals are.

meanwhile your joke of a Country has unjustified (IMO) lockdowns.

you were the one with the arsehole tone when you knew they were on the verge of opening (if they ahdnt already): "copeyhagen said open the terrace, and bar, and restaurant"

im honestly glad for them. sad for us.

timmyntc · 23-02-2021 11:21AM

Graham wrote: »

My guess would be it was the easiest was of ensuring that no evictions occurred during the highest level of restrictions.

Yes but *how* - what legal justification is there for tying it to a 5k travel restrictions that already has exceptions for moving house? How can the 2 be reconciled?
Genuine question, I cant get my head around it

Graham · 23-02-2021 11:23AM

copeyhagen wrote: »

well Madrid and Sevilla were both wost hit, and both reopened so it doesnt matter what part theyre in now, theyre free to open, whole Country/municipals are.

to the concern of a significant part of the population, Madrid is relaxing restrictions.

I don't know about Sevilla, I'll take your word for it.

agoodpunt · 23-02-2021 11:24AM

The silly bunt CD has just mentioned a possible 4th wave radio now off what a total g**bag

copeyhagen · 23-02-2021 11:28AM

Graham wrote: »

to the concern of a significant part of the population, Madrid is relaxing restrictions.

I don't know about Sevilla, I'll take your word for it.

im not joking, im glad for your folks and wish them well.

im at the end of my mental capability with this lockdown.

i want to get over to my folks for a break, even bring one of the kids (other ones back in school next week i think)... i really need it for my mental health i think.

and i cant. im trapped here due to this 5km level 5 restriction. its archaic, having the gardai in the airport pouncing on people trying to escape.

silverharp · 23-02-2021 11:28AM

if they relax some restrictions but keep the 5K, it will be telling, they need to go back to 20K or county at the soonest when the weather picks up or people will just ignore it anyway

TomTomTim · 23-02-2021 11:31AM

treade1 wrote: »

The journal has been a disgrace throughout the pandemic. At the start of the lockdown they were begging for donations/subscribers but that changed quickly. They were obviously bailed out by the government and used as an other arm of the propaganda machine to reach the younger demographic they cannot reach via RTE. There so called self appointed factcheckers are shameless. Anyone on the comments section who questions the narrative is silenced - myself included. Consequently anyone reading the comments thinks the vast majority are in favor of lockdown and hears no dissenting opinions.

Pure manufactured consent. It's blatantly obvious too.

23-02-2021 11:31AM

agoodpunt wrote: »

The silly bunt CD has just mentioned a possible 4th wave radio now off what a total g**bag

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Silentcorner · 23-02-2021 11:32AM

It is a great comfort to see so many people seeing through the complete hysteria pumped at us every day, under the guide of "experts" who have been consistently wrong from the very start yet here they are today, still getting airtime....and by wrong I don't mean underestimating the threat of the virus, I mean a complete over estimation of the threat...the numbers however don't lie.

You'd wonder, at what point will the penny drop with the hardened anti science lock downers...what will be the straw that breaks the camels back as it were....you'd have thought the ridiculous 5km limit being stretched till May it seems would be the straw, but that hasn't happened...what will it take to break them?

Pitch n Putt · 23-02-2021 11:33AM

So our latest living with not living with covid plan is another shambles. Kick the can on down the road until another few hundred thousand are vaccinated.

This is a monumental disgrace at this stage.

Awaiting the high case numbers and increased deaths this evening to somehow try and justify this.

The shows nearly over though. Once evenings get brighter people ain’t going to be listening anymore.

It’s getting to the point now where its the people ourselves have to start relaxing the restrictions. Take the control away from NPHET and government.

A year on and the plan is we have no plan.

Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX Read OP For Mod Warnings