Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

muddypuppy

Multipass wrote: »

We could vaccinate more people with one dose

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/call-for-spread-of-pfizer-vaccine-doses-as-study-shows-high-protection-of-one-shot-1.4491808

Yes, we could. But personally I would wait for recommendations from Pfizer/Moderna and the EMA, not to decide this just based on a single study, even if the results from that study looks very promising.

Also, my personal opinion is that we should go with the two doses for over 70 (or over 65) since there still is a difference in protection. So I would finish the current rollout and then move to a single shot for anyone younger.

Graham

bryangiggsy wrote: »

I disagree. Our vaccine supply is increasing dramatically over the next number of weeks..i read somewhere 250,000 a week within a month

Wasn't that for April/May/June?

Maybe I misread.

Silentcorner

5 km limit until May is ludicrous ... even the most hardened Lockdown fanatic can see how crazy that is, surely!!

Penfailed

I reckon Johnson's plan to have everything sorted by the 21st of June is very optimistic. Glastonbury was supposed to be happening the following weekend. I would point out that it's only the plan for England. The rest of the UK have been more cautious throughout all this.

ypres5

TheDoctor wrote: »

We really should have got our new Covid plan out last Friday, its going to look so pathetic now following the UKs.

I think our new living with covid plan will be drenched in tippex after what the uks announced and the government try to reform a plan that doesn't put us 6 months behind. they might even have to show a little ambition

uli84

cjyid wrote: »

At least the UK have things to look forward too, psychological wise....

They never thought this may be beneficial in here

copeyhagen

copeyhagen wrote: »

so are your folks going to open their pub and restaurant now that they can?

or do they share your lockdown beliefs?

just throwing that back up Graham, think you missed it

bryangiggsy

Graham wrote: »

Wasn't that for April/May/June?

Maybe I misread.

Am going off what Varadkar tweeted ' Next week for the firs time more than 100k people will receive the vaccine. Rampup continues. In April it will be 250k a week'

timmyntc

Multipass wrote: »

And whilst browsing the IT

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/one-third-of-population-not-staying-within-10km-of-home-1.4491664
One-third of population not staying within 10km of home

Bless them, they’ve even made a county by county table so we can obsess over who’s being naughtiest.

Whats more interesting is that a lot of those counties with poor adherence to 5km rule, also have relatively low cases.

Its almost as if the 5km rule makes no impact on virus transmissions whatsoever

Sweet.Science

Penfailed wrote: »

I reckon Johnson's plan to have everything sorted by the 21st of June is very optimistic. Glastonbury was supposed to be happening the following weekend. I would point out that it's only the plan for England. The rest of the UK have been more cautious throughout all this.

If anything hes being cautious .

muddypuppy

Multipass wrote: »

And whilst browsing the IT

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/one-third-of-population-not-staying-within-10km-of-home-1.4491664
One-third of population not staying within 10km of home

Bless them, they’ve even made a county by county table so we can obsess over who’s being naughtiest.

Wow what a terrible headline. The actual number to look at is the 2% week on week change. This might (MIGHT) be the number of people relaxing on travel. People still have to travel outside of 10km from their home for essential reasons.

Also to put it in context, the "Stay Local" average peaked at around 76.7% in April 2020, and the latest figure is 67.7%.

If anything they should compliment most people for sticking to the rules, not claim that 1/3 of the population don't follow them.

https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/fb/fb-sli/stayinglocalindicatorweekending12february2021/

Multipass

Multipass wrote: »

And whilst browsing the IT

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/one-third-of-population-not-staying-within-10km-of-home-1.4491664
One-third of population not staying within 10km of home

Bless them, they’ve even made a county by county table so we can obsess over who’s being naughtiest.

The joys of mobile phones constant tracking !

thebaz

Hellrazer wrote: »

The only thing is the UK announcement might put pressure on our lot to move things along at a faster pace. They`ll look like the fools they are if they dont.

Has to put pressure on our Government, instead of leaking nonsense about cracking down on outside gatherings , otherwise we ill be the only country in lockdown this summer apart from North Korea.

retro:electro

Good segment on Virgin Media just now. They interviewed a psychologist and had a few contributions from people out and about in Bray about what a mental toll this is taking on them. All three interviewed agreed this was taxing and the prospect of 9 more weeks is exhausting and overwhelming.
You wouldn’t catch that on RTE in a million years.

Sweet.Science

Hospital numbers in the UK have dropped below a thousand. A huge drop within a month

I can see them bringing forward their easing of restrictions

Penfailed

Sweet.Science wrote: »

If anything hes being cautious .

Will we go with cautiously optimistic?

Graham

copeyhagen wrote: »

so are your folks going to open their pub and restaurant now that they can?

or do they share your lockdown beliefs?

No, they won't be reopening until it's permitted by their local municipality.

Was that a deliberately stupid question or is it much funnier for you when the businesses/employees impacted have a familial connection to someone who understands why restrictions are necessary?

Stheno

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Hospital numbers in the UK have dropped below a thousand. A huge drop within a month

I can see them bringing forward their easing of restrictions

How much has it dropped by?

Whatsisname

Penfailed wrote: »

I reckon Johnson's plan to have everything sorted by the 21st of June is very optimistic. Glastonbury was supposed to be happening the following weekend. I would point out that it's only the plan for England. The rest of the UK have been more cautious throughout all this.

From what I've read, it's because Glastonbury is basically just too big. It costs £25m each year to host, its hugely complicated in terms of logistics and that stage/site preparation begins in March usually. Apparently insurance companies are including exemptions for covid related cover so it could get to a case where they're £20m deep in April and then it gets cancelled and they're ****ed.

Graham

bryangiggsy wrote: »

Am going off what Varadkar tweeted ' Next week for the firs time more than 100k people will receive the vaccine. Rampup continues. In April it will be 250k a week'

That's along the lines of what I understood, around 1 million doses per month for April/May/June. I'm not so sure about the figures for March.

It would be interesting to see how many of those are the Pfizer vaccine and if there are any plans to go with the 1 shot approach for more people rather than the 2 in quick succession.

ISOP

Stheno wrote: »

How much has it dropped by?

18th January 39,244 covid patients in Hospital
15th Febuary 20,958 covid patients in hospital

PTH2009

ISOP wrote: »

18th January 39,244 covid patients in Hospital
15th Febuary 20,958 covid patients in hospital

But but but overcrowding in the hospitals

But but variants which are pretty deadly

But but vaccine supply

TheDoctor

PTH2009 wrote: »

But but but overcrowding in the hospitals

But but variants which are pretty deadly

But but vaccine supply

As I’ve said before, someone really needs to warn the UK about the UK variant

Stheno

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Hospital numbers in the UK have dropped below a thousand. A huge drop within a month

I can see them bringing forward their easing of restrictions

ISOP wrote: »

18th January 39,244 covid patients in Hospital
15th Febuary 20,958 covid patients in hospital

Which one is correct today? It can't have dropped 20,000 in a week if the statement above that there are less than 1000 people in hospital?

All this time I’ve been saying there is half a million out of work. I was very wrong!!!

It’s closer to 700000 when you factor in the live register.

Shocking numbers. A country in poverty.

ypres5

Silentcorner wrote: »

5 km limit until May is ludicrous ... even the most hardened Lockdown fanatic can see how crazy that is, surely!!

id bet my house that rte are going to spin it as the uk sleepwalking into catastrophe and that we're the best boys in the class for staying within 5k while the british public get on with their lives

Whatsisname

Stheno wrote: »

Which one is correct today? It can't have dropped 20,000 in a week if the statement above that there are less than 1000 people in hospital?

Theres not been any numbers announced today (weekend lag I think) but on Friday were 1,304 people admitted, and 18,462 in hospital in total.

Poster might have mixed up Englands numbers which had 1,068 admitted on Friday and 14,142 in hospital in total. A long way off less than 1k in hospital.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

ypres5

PTH2009 wrote: »

But but but overcrowding in the hospitals

But but variants which are pretty deadly

But but vaccine supply

Meanwhile in ireland...

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/gardai-may-be-redeployed-as-crowds-flock-to-beauty-spots-1084905.html

you couldn't write this ****

Silentcorner

ypres5 wrote: »

Meanwhile in ireland...

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/gardai-may-be-redeployed-as-crowds-flock-to-beauty-spots-1084905.html

you couldn't write this ****

They'll have some job keeping this up until May.

The same group of morons in Government/Nphet who think we can are the same who thought administering the Vaccine was a Mon-Fi 9 - 5 job!

retro:electro

I’m very interested to see how this will be spun tomorrow especially knowing Boris has told the public he intends on being restriction free by June. How can our lot reasonably justify not even having personal services open by then, knowing that information.