Non UK tool supppliers

Deseras · 13-03-2021 8:17pm

Buy from germany

monkeynuz · 13-03-2021 8:19pm

Discodog wrote: »

Yes & I think than many don't care as they can offset it against tax.

Perhaps, but I can’t.

monkeynuz · 13-03-2021 8:32pm

Deseras wrote: »

Buy from germany

Facom 11 in 1 ratcheting spanner set is €92.59 plus delivery from Germany or €109.35 from Caulfield, I probably wouldn’t bother with Germany for that difference as Caulfield will deliver next day and free delivery I think.

TimHorton · 13-03-2021 8:42pm

monkeynuz wrote: »

No, not ripped off, merely paying the price in the country I’m living.

Vat and overheads are more in Ireland and less demand and competition, yes, I appreciate that prices often appear high but I and other people get over it.

Weird

monkeynuz · 13-03-2021 8:52pm

TimHorton wrote: »

Weird

What is weird about using a very good company to supply you with products or services?

Sometimes the cost is a secondary factor.

I have the ease and speed of Caulfield industrial in Ireland for only a 10-15% premium over ordering from Germany which could take fourteen days, that suits me fine.

Discodog · 13-03-2021 8:57pm

monkeynuz wrote: »

Facom 11 in 1 ratcheting spanner set is €92.59 plus delivery from Germany or €109.35 from Caulfield, I probably wouldn’t bother with Germany for that difference as Caulfield will deliver next day and free delivery I think.

€79 from Amazon UK including all charges.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00B1C2SWE/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1DK35QJWTDIFG&psc=1

By the way these are excellent

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bahco-S4RM3T-Reversible-Ratchet-Spanner/dp/B001DZRLXA/ref=sr_1_1?crid=5PW9M378AI2B&dchild=1&keywords=bahco+ratchet+spanner+set&qid=1615665370&sprefix=Bahco+%2Caps%2C157&sr=8-1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bahco-BAHS4RM5T-Reversible-Ratchet-Spanner/dp/B004W6CGJG/ref=sr_1_2?crid=5PW9M378AI2B&dchild=1&keywords=bahco+ratchet+spanner+set&qid=1615665426&sprefix=Bahco+%2Caps%2C157&sr=8-2

monkeynuz · 13-03-2021 9:18pm

Discodog wrote: »

€79 from Amazon UK including all charges.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00B1C2SWE/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1DK35QJWTDIFG&psc=1

By the way these are excellent

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bahco-S4RM3T-Reversible-Ratchet-Spanner/dp/B001DZRLXA/ref=sr_1_1?crid=5PW9M378AI2B&dchild=1&keywords=bahco+ratchet+spanner+set&qid=1615665370&sprefix=Bahco+%2Caps%2C157&sr=8-1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bahco-BAHS4RM5T-Reversible-Ratchet-Spanner/dp/B004W6CGJG/ref=sr_1_2?crid=5PW9M378AI2B&dchild=1&keywords=bahco+ratchet+spanner+set&qid=1615665426&sprefix=Bahco+%2Caps%2C157&sr=8-2

And it could take three weeks from Amazon, and anyway why would I buy from the uk now?

And no thanks to Bahco, I have their adjustable spanners but the Facom kit is fantastic.

listermint · 13-03-2021 10:25pm

Discodog wrote: »

€79 from Amazon UK including all charges.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00B1C2SWE/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1DK35QJWTDIFG&psc=1

By the way these are excellent

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bahco-S4RM3T-Reversible-Ratchet-Spanner/dp/B001DZRLXA/ref=sr_1_1?crid=5PW9M378AI2B&dchild=1&keywords=bahco+ratchet+spanner+set&qid=1615665370&sprefix=Bahco+%2Caps%2C157&sr=8-1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bahco-BAHS4RM5T-Reversible-Ratchet-Spanner/dp/B004W6CGJG/ref=sr_1_2?crid=5PW9M378AI2B&dchild=1&keywords=bahco+ratchet+spanner+set&qid=1615665426&sprefix=Bahco+%2Caps%2C157&sr=8-2

I'm purposefully avoiding the UK for anything more than 20 quid. One to avoid their VAT and two as my own personal two fingers for them ruining everything for everyone. And continuing to do so as each week goes on.

Il buy from inside the EU. Thanks.

loyatemu · 13-03-2021 10:25pm

monkeynuz wrote: »

And it could take three weeks from Amazon, and anyway why would I buy from the uk now?

it's Prime, it'll take 2 or 3 days. And, because it's cheaper?

monkeynuz · 13-03-2021 10:43pm

loyatemu wrote: »

it's Prime, it'll take 2 or 3 days. And, because it's cheaper?

Prime for me was taking two to three weeks at best so no thanks.

TimHorton · 14-03-2021 10:09am

monkeynuz wrote: »

Prime for me was taking two to three weeks at best so no thanks.

I have placed 78 orders so far in 2021 from Amazon UK and delivery is now back to 2 or 3 days..

Example

ORDER PLACED
12 March 2021
TOTAL
£59.98
DISPATCH TO
Dxxxx Fxxxxxx
ORDER # 206-11111-333333
Order Details Invoice
Arriving tomorrow
On the way

monkeynuz · 14-03-2021 10:58am

TimHorton wrote: »

I have placed 78 orders so far in 2021 from Amazon UK and delivery is now back to 2 or 3 days..

Example

ORDER PLACED
12 March 2021
TOTAL
£59.98
DISPATCH TO
Dxxxx Fxxxxxx
ORDER # 206-11111-333333
Order Details Invoice
Arriving tomorrow
On the way

Good for you, personally I’m perfectly happy supporting Irish business.

I neither need nor wish to use Amazon.

Lumen · 14-03-2021 12:30pm

monkeynuz wrote: »

Good for you, personally I’m perfectly happy supporting Irish business.

I neither need nor wish to use Amazon.

Amazon employs over 2,500 staff in Ireland, which is about double that of Woodies (for example). Woodies is owned by Grafton Group plc, which was originally Irish but is now listed on the LSE and is more British than Irish.

There are loads of Irish businesses that act at least as scummily as multinationals. I remember researching the ownership of my kids' creche a few years ago. They paid the staff minimum wage, registered as an unlimited company in order to avoid having to publish full financial statements, and moved profits to offshore tax havens to avoid even the very light Irish corp. tax rate (and presumably enable further income and capital gains tax avoidance by the beneficial owners).

It's safe to assume that no company gives a sh!t about you or your consumer nationalism, it's just a marketing wheeze to extract higher profit margins.

monkeynuz · 14-03-2021 1:00pm

Lumen wrote: »

Amazon employs over 2,500 staff in Ireland, which is about double that of Woodies (for example). Woodies is owned by Grafton Group plc, which was originally Irish but is now listed on the LSE and is more British than Irish.

There are loads of Irish businesses that act at least as scummily as multinationals. I remember researching the ownership of my kids' creche a few years ago. They paid the staff minimum wage, registered as an unlimited company in order to avoid having to publish full financial statements, and moved profits to offshore tax havens to avoid even the very light Irish corp. tax rate (and presumably enable further income and capital gains tax avoidance by the beneficial owners).

It's safe to assume that no company gives a sh!t about you or your consumer nationalism, it's just a marketing wheeze to extract higher profit margins.

Isn’t this rather off topic when the op merely asked for non uk tool suppliers?

Lumen · 14-03-2021 1:06pm

monkeynuz wrote: »

Isn’t this rather off topic when the op merely asked for non uk tool suppliers?

Possibly, but it was you that introduced "supporting Irish business" as a factor.

monkeynuz · 14-03-2021 2:01pm

Lumen wrote: »

Possibly, but it was you that introduced "supporting Irish business" as a factor.

Not really, I only said about Irish business after someone suggested it was weird that I would buy in Ireland instead of buying from Amazon.

monkeynuz · 14-03-2021 2:05pm

monkeynuz wrote: »

Not really, I only said about Irish business after someone suggested it was weird that I would buy in Ireland instead of buying from Amazon.

Correction the weird comment was when I said I wasn’t being ripped off, which was in response to their assertion that I am being ripped off.

dodzy · 14-03-2021 6:37pm

Hey bitches, can we stop the bitchin' and get back to cheap tools?

monkeynuz · 14-03-2021 7:07pm

dodzy wrote: »

Hey bitches, can we stop the bitchin' and get back to cheap tools?

Yes please.

dok_golf · 14-03-2021 7:53pm

Just ordered stuff from 2 UK suppliers last Tue morning. The first arrived Wed afternoon and the second lunchtime Thursday. There are no import or vat to be charged on B2B transactions

the_pen_turner · 14-03-2021 8:03pm

dok_golf wrote: »

Just ordered stuff from 2 UK suppliers last Tue morning. The first arrived Wed afternoon and the second lunchtime Thursday. There are no import or vat to be charged on B2B transactions

have you a link to back that up. its the first iv heard of it

14-03-2021 8:26pm

Definitely not my experience either.

dok_golf · 14-03-2021 8:34pm

the_pen_turner wrote: »

have you a link to back that up. its the first iv heard of it

Just the invoices from the suppliers. What was on that was all I paid. The only time I was charged vat since Brexit was on items that I didn't put my company name on the docket

lapua20grain · 14-03-2021 8:40pm

Have you tried Tucks O'Brien or Toolbank as they are known as now, they are wholesalers but you can set up an account and usually get next day delivery.

listermint · 15-03-2021 2:26pm

dok_golf wrote: »

Just ordered stuff from 2 UK suppliers last Tue morning. The first arrived Wed afternoon and the second lunchtime Thursday. There are no import or vat to be charged on B2B transactions

That's not true though at all whatsoever.

No one should take this advice.

You may have circumvented by luck is not the regulations.

Mango Joe · 15-03-2021 6:26pm

listermint wrote: »

That's not true though at all whatsoever.

No one should take this advice.

You may have circumvented by luck is not the regulations.

Sorry for off-topic post - Lister clear out your PM inbox, can't message you back !!

Discodog · 15-03-2021 7:34pm

I was in Caulfields & they were telling me that there are supply problems with Stanley & DeWalt. The Stanley display was very sparse.

listermint · 15-03-2021 7:42pm

Discodog wrote: »

I was in Caulfields & they were telling me that there are supply problems with Stanley & DeWalt. The Stanley display was very sparse.

Was looking at the DeWalt chop saw since before Christmas . Seems to be absolutely sparce outside the US.

dok_golf · 15-03-2021 11:28pm

listermint wrote: »

That's not true though at all whatsoever.

No one should take this advice.

You may have circumvented by luck is not the regulations.

ya, looks like you're right. There must be very little or no checks going on, because I know most ppl in my sector haven't paid a thing in import/vat on any of their purchases.

"VAT registered UK businesses will continue to zero-rate sales of goods to EU businesses. EU member states will treat goods entering the EU from the UK in the same way as goods entering from other non-EU countries. This means import VAT is due when the goods arrive in the EU."

dok_golf · 16-03-2021 8:18pm

I forgot to mention this crowd the other night. They dispatch really quickly and any stuff I've bought over the last couple of years, is still working https://www.iedepot.ie/

Non UK tool supppliers

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