Non UK tool supppliers

the_pen_turner

brexit has screwed up most of the uk tool shops from shipping here. a lot are just refusing to sell to here .


the rest of europe is looking a lot more apealing now.
what tool shops are out there similar to the usuall ones in the uk that we would use
the language barier is the major stumbling block im finding

The Red Ace

If you still want to buy from the uk register with An Post for your uk ad with them and you will generally have free shipping within uk, Their cost has gone up slightly since Jan 1 but it starts at 6 euro

the_pen_turner

The Red Ace wrote: »

If you still want to buy from the uk register with An Post for your uk ad with them and you will generally have free shipping within uk, Their cost has gone up slightly since Jan 1 but it starts at 6 euro

thats grand if you need to do that but it would be a lot easier to just buy from a supplier and have them send it on.
no vat issues
no import carry on
supplier is responsible until it gets to your door

Sleeper12

The Red Ace wrote:

If you still want to buy from the uk register with An Post for your uk ad with them and you will generally have free shipping within uk, Their cost has gone up slightly since Jan 1 but it starts at 6 euro

Won't you pay UK & Irish vat by doing that?

listermint

The Red Ace wrote: »

If you still want to buy from the uk register with An Post for your uk ad with them and you will generally have free shipping within uk, Their cost has gone up slightly since Jan 1 but it starts at 6 euro

And be robbed on the import charges.

No thanks. UK is strictly off limits for me unless very low value item.

ednwireland

https://www.fine-tools.com/turn.html

used to use these guys years ago (when the lathe got a spin )

havent compared the prices though

johnb25

Bought a garden shredder from these during the summer.
https://www.svh24.de/elektrowerkzeuge/
Took longer than estimated to arrive. Got a good price on their Ebay site. Chrome will translate for you.

listermint

johnb25 wrote: »

Bought a garden shredder from these during the summer.
https://www.svh24.de/elektrowerkzeuge/
Took longer than estimated to arrive. Got a good price on their Ebay site. Chrome will translate for you.

Was in their own website states Germany shipping only. But then also states some sellers send internationally. Seems they are slightly Amazon style where stores use these to advertise through
I think...

Lumen

I've used...

cbdirekt.de
svh24.de
Amazon.de
Baunativ.de

monkeynuz

Caulfield industrial here, lightning fast delivery and good selection of tools.

Looking at but haven’t used, dictum in Germany.

jack of all

I bought as lot of stuff from Axminster Tools over the years but won't go near them now since Brexit. EU suppliers I did use a good bit were Dictum (or Dick tools as they were then!) and Fine Tools (Dieter Schmid), both in Germany. I always found both suppliers had interesting stuff you mightn't see anywhere else. I haven't bought anything from either of them in over two years but last time I checked out Dictum they looked expensive. I've tended to buy more from Irish suppliers more recently and Caulfield Industrial would be my first choice as they seem to have a fantastic range and good service. Knives and Tools (Netherlands I believe) do some nice stuff too, although it is pretty specialised.

mloc123

I see that https://www.toolden.co.uk/ will ship to Ireland and also do not charge UK VAT if doing so.

Purgative

Use the German or French Amazon. Click on the German flag and you get an option for English.


https://www.amazon.de/?currency=EUR&language=en_GB

Discodog

Compare all the European Amazon sites here: https://www.hagglezon.com

Leftyflip

Toolfix and Caulfield industrial get my money nearly all the time now.
Two great crowds to deal with.

Discodog

Leftyflip wrote: »

Toolfix and Caulfield industrial get my money nearly all the time now.
Two great crowds to deal with.

Very expensive compared to online whenever I have considered them.

the_pen_turner

i would always check the irish suppliers first
my go to is my tools.ie because they are local to me and i know them very well
then frank clark,
caufields
joemckeenas
ept in carlow
mquillens in dublin
toolfix
etc

but there are loads of things that these shop just dont supply
in some cases the price diferece between here and the uk was 30-50% especially on accesories

i do use amazon but i would rather not if posible

im sure there are online shops similar to ffx,its,d and m ,etc etc out there in europe that would ship here. its just a hard job finding them

the_pen_turner

Discodog wrote: »

Compare all the European Amazon sites here: https://www.hagglezon.com

thats a great site. there is a nice bit in the diference on some of the amazon sites. just ordered a impact driver from france and router from spain. :eek::eek::eek:

karlitob

the_pen_turner wrote: »

i would always check the irish suppliers first
my go to is my tools.ie because they are local to me and i know them very well
then frank clark,
caufields
joemckeenas
ept in carlow
mquillens in dublin
toolfix
etc

but there are loads of things that these shop just dont supply
in some cases the price diferece between here and the uk was 30-50% especially on accesories

i do use amazon but i would rather not if posible

im sure there are online shops similar to ffx,its,d and m ,etc etc out there in europe that would ship here. its just a hard job finding them

Thanks for putting these up.
Is there a reason why the costs are so much higher.

glynf

+1 for Dieter Schmid fine tools, I have also bought a lot of stuff from Sauter, excellent to deal with and like most Germans they have excellent English. DPD drooped off a damaged package with parts missing (and held together with DPD tape) just before x-mas, rang them about it and they had a replacement shipment with the missing bits sent that afternoon, they're well worth a look.

the_pen_turner

karlitob wrote: »

Thanks for putting these up.
Is there a reason why the costs are so much higher.

not sure why they are higher.
maybe its buying power is less
shipping costs
because they can
less competition

who knows. sometimes the diference is crazy

monkeynuz

the_pen_turner wrote: »

i would always check the irish suppliers first
my go to is my tools.ie because they are local to me and i know them very well
then frank clark,
caufields
joemckeenas
ept in carlow
mquillens in dublin
toolfix
etc

but there are loads of things that these shop just dont supply
in some cases the price diferece between here and the uk was 30-50% especially on accesories

i do use amazon but i would rather not if posible

im sure there are online shops similar to ffx,its,d and m ,etc etc out there in europe that would ship here. its just a hard job finding them

Another 2 are sautershop and misterworker.

the_pen_turner

from the other thread.

gotools.de

not sure what to make of it. seems very disorganised and hard to navigate. ok if you know the part nos

Discodog

the_pen_turner wrote: »

from the other thread.

gotools.de

not sure what to make of it. seems very disorganised and hard to navigate. ok if you know the part nos

It's not cheap & strangely no results when you search for Knipex - one of the most well known German brands.

TimHorton

ednwireland wrote: »

https://www.fine-tools.com/turn.html

used to use these guys years ago (when the lathe got a spin )

havent compared the prices though

Go to the USA Route via Addresspal - I Got 4 x Milwaukee tools from Homedepot since xmas and Addrespal have valued them at $140 in total so import duties low.

Same tools here in Caulfields amost €1.5k , I spent less than $600 on HomeDepot site for them.

Spocker

TimHorton wrote: »

Go to the USA Route via Addresspal - I Got 4 x Milwaukee tools from Homedepot since xmas and Addrespal have valued them at $140 in total so import duties low.

Thats not guaranteed though, maybe you just got lucky?

TimHorton

Spocker wrote: »

Thats not guaranteed though, maybe you just got lucky?

Nothing in life is guaranteed , But so far 100% Success Rate. I have 4 amazing tools for less than I would have paid for crap in Woodies.

monkeynuz

TimHorton wrote: »

Nothing in life is guaranteed , But so far 100% Success Rate. I have 4 amazing tools for less than I would have paid for crap in Woodies.

Personally I’d rather just buy in Ireland and have a warranty and no worries about import duty etc.

Pay the price or don’t it’s up to you, myself, I’m willing to pay it.

TimHorton

monkeynuz wrote: »

Personally I’d rather just buy in Ireland and have a warranty and no worries about import duty etc.

Pay the price or don’t it’s up to you, myself, I’m willing to pay it.

You mean get ripped off here..

monkeynuz

TimHorton wrote: »

You mean get ripped off here..

No, not ripped off, merely paying the price in the country I’m living.

Vat and overheads are more in Ireland and less demand and competition, yes, I appreciate that prices often appear high but I and other people get over it.

Discodog

monkeynuz wrote: »

No, not ripped off, merely paying the price in the country I’m living.

Vat and overheads are more in Ireland and less demand and competition, yes, I appreciate that prices often appear high but I and other people get over it.

Yes & I think than many don't care as they can offset it against tax.

Deseras

Buy from germany

monkeynuz

Discodog wrote: »

Yes & I think than many don't care as they can offset it against tax.

Perhaps, but I can’t.

monkeynuz

Deseras wrote: »

Buy from germany

Facom 11 in 1 ratcheting spanner set is €92.59 plus delivery from Germany or €109.35 from Caulfield, I probably wouldn’t bother with Germany for that difference as Caulfield will deliver next day and free delivery I think.

TimHorton

monkeynuz wrote: »

No, not ripped off, merely paying the price in the country I’m living.

Vat and overheads are more in Ireland and less demand and competition, yes, I appreciate that prices often appear high but I and other people get over it.

Weird

monkeynuz

TimHorton wrote: »

Weird

What is weird about using a very good company to supply you with products or services?

Sometimes the cost is a secondary factor.

I have the ease and speed of Caulfield industrial in Ireland for only a 10-15% premium over ordering from Germany which could take fourteen days, that suits me fine.

Discodog

monkeynuz wrote: »

Facom 11 in 1 ratcheting spanner set is €92.59 plus delivery from Germany or €109.35 from Caulfield, I probably wouldn’t bother with Germany for that difference as Caulfield will deliver next day and free delivery I think.

€79 from Amazon UK including all charges.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00B1C2SWE/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1DK35QJWTDIFG&psc=1

By the way these are excellent

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bahco-S4RM3T-Reversible-Ratchet-Spanner/dp/B001DZRLXA/ref=sr_1_1?crid=5PW9M378AI2B&dchild=1&keywords=bahco+ratchet+spanner+set&qid=1615665370&sprefix=Bahco+%2Caps%2C157&sr=8-1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bahco-BAHS4RM5T-Reversible-Ratchet-Spanner/dp/B004W6CGJG/ref=sr_1_2?crid=5PW9M378AI2B&dchild=1&keywords=bahco+ratchet+spanner+set&qid=1615665426&sprefix=Bahco+%2Caps%2C157&sr=8-2

monkeynuz

Discodog wrote: »

€79 from Amazon UK including all charges.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00B1C2SWE/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1DK35QJWTDIFG&psc=1

By the way these are excellent

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bahco-S4RM3T-Reversible-Ratchet-Spanner/dp/B001DZRLXA/ref=sr_1_1?crid=5PW9M378AI2B&dchild=1&keywords=bahco+ratchet+spanner+set&qid=1615665370&sprefix=Bahco+%2Caps%2C157&sr=8-1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bahco-BAHS4RM5T-Reversible-Ratchet-Spanner/dp/B004W6CGJG/ref=sr_1_2?crid=5PW9M378AI2B&dchild=1&keywords=bahco+ratchet+spanner+set&qid=1615665426&sprefix=Bahco+%2Caps%2C157&sr=8-2

And it could take three weeks from Amazon, and anyway why would I buy from the uk now?

And no thanks to Bahco, I have their adjustable spanners but the Facom kit is fantastic.

listermint

Discodog wrote: »

€79 from Amazon UK including all charges.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00B1C2SWE/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1DK35QJWTDIFG&psc=1

By the way these are excellent

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bahco-S4RM3T-Reversible-Ratchet-Spanner/dp/B001DZRLXA/ref=sr_1_1?crid=5PW9M378AI2B&dchild=1&keywords=bahco+ratchet+spanner+set&qid=1615665370&sprefix=Bahco+%2Caps%2C157&sr=8-1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bahco-BAHS4RM5T-Reversible-Ratchet-Spanner/dp/B004W6CGJG/ref=sr_1_2?crid=5PW9M378AI2B&dchild=1&keywords=bahco+ratchet+spanner+set&qid=1615665426&sprefix=Bahco+%2Caps%2C157&sr=8-2

I'm purposefully avoiding the UK for anything more than 20 quid. One to avoid their VAT and two as my own personal two fingers for them ruining everything for everyone. And continuing to do so as each week goes on.

Il buy from inside the EU. Thanks.

loyatemu

monkeynuz wrote: »

And it could take three weeks from Amazon, and anyway why would I buy from the uk now?

it's Prime, it'll take 2 or 3 days. And, because it's cheaper?

monkeynuz

loyatemu wrote: »

it's Prime, it'll take 2 or 3 days. And, because it's cheaper?

Prime for me was taking two to three weeks at best so no thanks.

TimHorton

monkeynuz wrote: »

Prime for me was taking two to three weeks at best so no thanks.

I have placed 78 orders so far in 2021 from Amazon UK and delivery is now back to 2 or 3 days..

Example

ORDER PLACED
12 March 2021
TOTAL
£59.98
DISPATCH TO
Dxxxx Fxxxxxx
ORDER # 206-11111-333333
Order Details Invoice
Arriving tomorrow
On the way

monkeynuz

TimHorton wrote: »

I have placed 78 orders so far in 2021 from Amazon UK and delivery is now back to 2 or 3 days..

Example

ORDER PLACED
12 March 2021
TOTAL
£59.98
DISPATCH TO
Dxxxx Fxxxxxx
ORDER # 206-11111-333333
Order Details Invoice
Arriving tomorrow
On the way

Good for you, personally I’m perfectly happy supporting Irish business.

I neither need nor wish to use Amazon.

Lumen

monkeynuz wrote: »

Good for you, personally I’m perfectly happy supporting Irish business.

I neither need nor wish to use Amazon.

Amazon employs over 2,500 staff in Ireland, which is about double that of Woodies (for example). Woodies is owned by Grafton Group plc, which was originally Irish but is now listed on the LSE and is more British than Irish.

There are loads of Irish businesses that act at least as scummily as multinationals. I remember researching the ownership of my kids' creche a few years ago. They paid the staff minimum wage, registered as an unlimited company in order to avoid having to publish full financial statements, and moved profits to offshore tax havens to avoid even the very light Irish corp. tax rate (and presumably enable further income and capital gains tax avoidance by the beneficial owners).

It's safe to assume that no company gives a sh!t about you or your consumer nationalism, it's just a marketing wheeze to extract higher profit margins.

monkeynuz

Lumen wrote: »

Amazon employs over 2,500 staff in Ireland, which is about double that of Woodies (for example). Woodies is owned by Grafton Group plc, which was originally Irish but is now listed on the LSE and is more British than Irish.

There are loads of Irish businesses that act at least as scummily as multinationals. I remember researching the ownership of my kids' creche a few years ago. They paid the staff minimum wage, registered as an unlimited company in order to avoid having to publish full financial statements, and moved profits to offshore tax havens to avoid even the very light Irish corp. tax rate (and presumably enable further income and capital gains tax avoidance by the beneficial owners).

It's safe to assume that no company gives a sh!t about you or your consumer nationalism, it's just a marketing wheeze to extract higher profit margins.

Isn’t this rather off topic when the op merely asked for non uk tool suppliers?

Lumen

monkeynuz wrote: »

Isn’t this rather off topic when the op merely asked for non uk tool suppliers?

Possibly, but it was you that introduced "supporting Irish business" as a factor.

monkeynuz

Lumen wrote: »

Possibly, but it was you that introduced "supporting Irish business" as a factor.

Not really, I only said about Irish business after someone suggested it was weird that I would buy in Ireland instead of buying from Amazon.

monkeynuz

monkeynuz wrote: »

Not really, I only said about Irish business after someone suggested it was weird that I would buy in Ireland instead of buying from Amazon.

Correction the weird comment was when I said I wasn’t being ripped off, which was in response to their assertion that I am being ripped off.

dodzy

Hey bitches, can we stop the bitchin' and get back to cheap tools?

monkeynuz

dodzy wrote: »

Hey bitches, can we stop the bitchin' and get back to cheap tools?

Yes please.

dok_golf

Just ordered stuff from 2 UK suppliers last Tue morning. The first arrived Wed afternoon and the second lunchtime Thursday. There are no import or vat to be charged on B2B transactions