Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

saabsaab

acequion wrote: »

Jesus but that is absolutely horrendous, makes me so very ashamed of what this country has become. Cead mille failte my ass :mad: just shows how hypocritical that expression when push comes to shove.

Let's hope that tyrannical carry on disappears after 10th May. Otherwise it's Belfast all the way. Even with a valid reason to travel, who would subject themselves to arbitrary police interrogation when just going about your business! The blood boils. :mad::mad:

What's harsh? We don't know the circumstances but usually Gardai are not easily provoked. I'm glad to see people taking their job seriously

Ray Donovan

acequion wrote: »

Jesus but that is absolutely horrendous, makes me so very ashamed of what this country has become. Cead mille failte my ass :mad: just shows how hypocritical that expression when push comes to shove.

Let's hope that tyrannical carry on disappears after 10th May. Otherwise it's Belfast all the way. Even with a valid reason to travel, who would subject themselves to arbitrary police interrogation when just going about your business! The blood boils. :mad::mad:

€2,000 Fine wont go until mid June. Cant see it being renewed after it’s sunset clause due to incoming EU travel cert.

Yes, I know it’s full inter county from May 10th but they’ll get to the Sunset Clause out of the travel fine.

Ideally they would love to align the end of the fine with the onset of the travel cert but it doesnt look feasible so by my reckoning there will be a period for travel in between expiration of fine and commencment of cert. In this scenario all you initially need to worry yourself with is your destination country’s entry requirements.

Chuck Norris 2021

Chuck Norris 2021 wrote: »

But what about preventing residents from leaving the country, we are literally prisoners? That's the part I really don't get?

They aren't preventing you though. The fine is carefully worded and within the law.

pjohnson

saabsaab wrote: »

What's harsh? We don't know the circumstances but usually Gardai are not easily provoked. I'm glad to see people taking their job seriously

Yeah in reality usually it takes effort to actually pìss off a Garda. Well for most people anyway. If you've something to hide/worry about the Gardai finding out then you may find interactions tense.

acequion

acequion wrote: »

Jesus but that is absolutely horrendous, makes me so very ashamed of what this country has become. Cead mille failte my ass :mad: just shows how hypocritical that expression when push comes to shove.

Let's hope that tyrannical carry on disappears after 10th May. Otherwise it's Belfast all the way. Even with a valid reason to travel, who would subject themselves to arbitrary police interrogation when just going about your business! The blood boils. :mad::mad:

Yeah. Bastards questioning people at border control. Wouldn't happen anywhere else.

(I'm being smart, it happens to me every single time I have traveled in the past year)

acequion

saabsaab wrote: »

What's harsh? We don't know the circumstances but usually Gardai are not easily provoked. I'm glad to see people taking their job seriously

You're not the only one who likes to see people taking their jobs seriously, especially our public servants paid from the public purse. But let's draw the line at tyrannical! We don't know the circumstances but there have been too many anecdotal accounts of heavy handed Gardaí behaving as that poster attested. It is utterly and completely wrong and no excuse for it whatsoever. Who on earth would want to come here if that's how we behave!

pjohnson

acequion wrote: »

You're not the only one who likes to see people taking their jobs seriously, especially our public servants paid from the public purse. But let's draw the line at tyrannical! We don't know the circumstances but there have been too many anecdotal accounts of heavy handed Gardaí behaving as that poster attested. It is utterly and completely wrong and no excuse for it whatsoever. Who on earth would want to come here if that's how we behave!

Anyone who doesnt have issues with law enforcement?

Darwin

Ray Donovan wrote: »

€2,000 Fine wont go until mid June. Cant see it being renewed after it’s sunset clause due to incoming EU travel cert.

Yes, I know it’s full inter county from May 10th but they’ll get to the Sunset Clause out of the travel fine.

Ideally they would love to align the end of the fine with the onset of the travel cert but it doesnt loom feasible so by my reckoning there will be a period for travel in between expiration of fine and commencment of cert. In this scenario all you initially need to worry yourself with is your destination country’s entry requirements.

Come 10th May, its another email of complaint to the EU then, the fine is completely disproportionate at that stage.

saabsaab

acequion wrote: »

You're not the only one who likes to see people taking their jobs seriously, especially our public servants paid from the public purse. But let's draw the line at tyrannical! We don't know the circumstances but there have been too many anecdotal accounts of heavy handed Gardaí behaving as that poster attested. It is utterly and completely wrong and no excuse for it whatsoever. Who on earth would want to come here if that's how we behave!

All he said was 'harsh', whatever that means in the circumstances. We don't know what was going on so don't judge them.

Marcusm

acequion wrote: »

Days like today in Kerry really convince why no way would I staycation in Ireland. Grey, drizzly, chilly, all round miserable.

I NEVER holiday in Ireland. Now I do take short breaks, planned last minute when the weather is great. Then it can be lovely as Ireland is lovely and hospitality here is of a high standard, if costly.

But on days like today, which is pretty much default weather in Kerry. No thanks.:(

Apart from a hail shower and a brief rain shower, it ha been a glorious day in Dublin. In fact, despite the predictions of rain every day, the whole week has been good.

Del Griffith

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Christ. Almighty.

There's not way tests will be free for starters

Why do you say that? It's already happening, in a lot of places. Hardly outlandish.

Tenzor07

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Yeah. Bastards questioning people at border control. Wouldn't happen anywhere else.
(I'm being smart, it happens to me every single time I have traveled in the past year)

Of the 20 or border control posts I've passed through in the last couple of years, the only questioning I got was at the Israeli borders...must have that look about ya!

acequion

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Yeah. Bastards questioning people at border control. Wouldn't happen anywhere else.

(I'm being smart, it happens to me every single time I have traveled in the past year)

You're actually being smart Nimer, wow, you must find that hard :eek:

I've travelled within the last year and was treated cordially each time. So you might be fine with tough border control within the EU. But it might surprise you that most people are not. Even during a pandemic people don't appreciate being treated like retrogrades.

0lddog

Tenzor07 wrote: »

...must have that look about ya!

Niner is on The Cat A Watch List for sure

Tenzor07

0lddog wrote: »

Niner is on The Cat A Watch List for sure

Best thing they ever did at Dublin airport was getting rid of the Gardai doing the passport/border checks and instead having DOJ public servants/border agents doing the checks...far more friendly and efficient...

0lddog

Marcusm wrote: »

Apart from a hail shower and a brief rain shower, it ha been a glorious day in Dublin. In fact, despite the predictions of rain every day, the whole week has been good.

Dont know about that, Marcusm. I spent the day in North Dubland. At best I would describe the weather today as 'precarious' ( and also damn cold )

embraer170

yer man! wrote: »

Flew to Ireland today from the Netherlands and back again (had an essential reason to visit for one day). The difference between Schiphol and Dublin was night and day. Half the lights in T2 were off and pretty much everything shut. Schiphol was pretty much fully open and not quiet at all. Guards were going mental at some german man ahead of me upon departure, interrogating him harshly on why he was in Ireland. Not nice to see.

So sad seeing so many EU and FR planes mothballed on stands in Dublin. Hope the industry rapidly recovers.

How long was the immigration queue at Dublin Airport?

acequion

Marcusm wrote: »

Apart from a hail shower and a brief rain shower, it ha been a glorious day in Dublin. In fact, despite the predictions of rain every day, the whole week has been good.

That's Dublin, ye're called the sunny south east for a reason. But people don't staycation in Dublin. They generally come to staycation over west, the entire west coast from north to south. And though stunningly beautiful the default weather is shyte, no denying that. It's cleared since my last post and pretty to look out at but freezing :eek: Heating on full blast here, not what you want in May and will probably be the same in June. And July. And August. Except for respites in between. Which is why the idea of staycations and outdoor dining and all that jazz is a joke. Imagine sitting out dining tonight :eek:

Tenzor07

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Of the 20 or border control posts I've passed through in the last couple of years, the only questioning I got was at the Israeli borders...must have that look about ya!

Possible so if you mean handsome devil! Must be worried I'm coming to take their women folk

Del Griffith wrote: »

Why do you say that? It's already happening, in a lot of places. Hardly outlandish.

Not in Ireland it ain't.

Not outlandish if it's a tourist location trying to entice you. We are not that location.

Where by the way?

Tenzor07

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Best thing they ever did at Dublin airport was getting rid of the Gardai doing the passport/border checks and instead having DOJ public servants/border agents doing the checks...far more friendly and efficient...

You know that they have to call the Gardai to deal with any refusals?

Twice the staff for the same job isn't my version of efficient.

Marcusm

acequion wrote: »

That's Dublin, ye're called the sunny south east for a reason. But people don't staycation in Dublin. They generally come to staycation over west, the entire west coast from north to south. And though stunningly beautiful the default weather is shyte, no denying that. It's cleared since my last post and pretty to look out at but freezing :eek: Heating on full blast here, not what you want in May and will probably be the same in June. And July. And August. Except for respites in between. Which is why the idea of staycations and outdoor dining and all that jazz is a joke. Imagine sitting out dining tonight :eek:

Trust me, no one calls Dublin the sunny south east. Mostly because it is not in the south east. Glass half full, it’s April and rain is below average and sunshine is above average.

Marcusm

0lddog wrote: »

Dont know about that, Marcusm. I spent the day in North Dubland. At best I would describe the weather today as 'precarious' ( and also damn cold )

It was changeable but still better than planned. Better than average for April.

Darwin

Darwin wrote: »

Come 10th May, its another email of complaint to the EU then, the fine is completely disproportionate at that stage.

Be sure to let is see the reply. I'm sure they will burst into action

yer man!

embraer170 wrote: »

How long was the immigration queue at Dublin Airport?

Tiny, they managed it very well go be fair to them. Immigration lads were sound and so were all the staff.

The german guy on the way out didn't seem to have the best english and was not expecting a police checkpoint from what I could tell. Guard was just being very condescending and began rasing his voice, german lad didn't know what to do. Thankfully I got his colleague who just asked where i was going and all was grand. I'm sure this guard was just having a bad day.

Tazz T

Tazz T wrote: »

I'm going wait and see the specifics of the digital cert, or whatever it's called now. Getting a pcr on the last day of you hols before heading back to Dublin sounds like a bit of a 'mare.

Getting another one on Monday. Will be my 4th in a month.

Not a fan but look, it's just the way it is.

Darwin

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Be sure to let is see the reply. I'm sure they will burst into action

Sounds like you are not happy to be an EU citizen, pity it would broaden your horizons a bit to see other places. Regardless of what happens I'm out of here come end of June.

yer man!

For what it's worth, entry into Schiphol was an absolute dream, automatic passport lane open, no checking of any tests or locator forms. I'm guessing they rely on the airline for this, not saying it's the best approach but for a passenger experience, business as usual (minus the covid tests of course).

Plane to train in less than 20 minutes

embraer170

yer man! wrote: »

For what it's worth, entry into Schiphol was an absolute dream, automatic passport lane open, no checking of any tests or locator forms. I'm guessing they rely on the airline for this, not saying it's the best approach but for a passenger experience, business as usual (minus the covid tests of course).

Plane to train in less than 20 minutes

Sounds like a dream. I have had a few dreadful arrival experiences at German airports in the past few months.

Darwin

Darwin wrote: »

Sounds like you are not happy to be an EU citizen, pity it would broaden your horizons a bit to see other places. Regardless of what happens I'm out of here come end of June.

Yeah, that's a great read on myself,my sentiments on eu membership and travel experience



Nailed it

acequion

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Be sure to let is see the reply. I'm sure they will burst into action

You're in overdrive tonight with the smart remarks!!

Why are you discouraging /belittling people for being proactive and standing up for their rights? We are one hundred percent entitled to complain to the EU. A raft of people complained when MHQ came in. The complaint is for "a suspected breach" of an EU principle. Which is precisely what we "suspect" is going on here. Breaches and violations of rights disproportionate to the public health risks. So I'm glad to hear that poster say he'll be complaining again if this farce continues after inter county travel is allowed. I'll be complaining too as I hope will more.