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Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh - thread 2.0

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭baldshin


    AEB and ABS warning lights randomly came on last night, and still on today. Autohold not working either. Have it booked in to be checked by the dealer next week. Posting here on the off chance this has happened someone else and there's a quick fix!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,560 ✭✭✭celt262


    Going to make the Plunge to EV shortly and really like the look of the Ioniq. Daily commute is around 70km so i wont have any issues with charging.

    Anyone have any views on this motor or what questions should i be asking?




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,222 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    I thought it was a 28kWh initially and did a double take at the price. For 31k you could have a much better EV.

    If you never use fast charging then the Ioniq38 is an ok car for your use case but it fast charges super slowly.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,563 ✭✭✭eagerv


    We had something similar just before we sold our 28kWh in January. But we also lost regen, so only had normal braking. Dealer fixed under warranty, apparently was a rear sensor, not sure which. Part took about a week to arrive and was told would be replaced and tested in under an hour. Took about 5 hours, they said when the car was in they were obliged to do some safety update as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,560 ✭✭✭celt262


    I would appreciate any advise you can give me feel free to PM me if you like.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,563 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Nice car if it suits your usage, but seems expensive; but then again what isn't at the moment? A year or so ago the price dropped and IIRC could be bought brand new nearer €30K, there were a good few with dealers. I honestly don't have any idea what a fair price would be today..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,222 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    It's a nice car don't get me wrong but it wouldnt be my choice. We've had 2 Ioniq 28s and they are a great car with the fast charging but the range is a little short in bad weather. Hard to know at the moment as you have to move quick, there's such a delay of supply that everything is expensive!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭baldshin


    Great timing if it's the same thing, warranty is up next month!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭baldshin


    Turns out it was a very quick fix. Had to use the car yesterday and all lights disappeared after driving about 5 metres!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,222 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Sometimes it's the old faithful, 12v.

    Ioniq28 comes with a very small 12v battery and sometimes struggles to keep it topped up. Would suggest checking it



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭baldshin


    Could be right, lights back on today and disappeared after a spin. Any recommendations for a new battery?



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Henrik Squeaking Pest


    any 12v from a motor factors, €50-€85 from memory



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,878 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Go to local motor factors, not Halfords, not main dealer. It needs a specific size, specific terminal size and a specific hold down at the bottom. Some motor factors may not have right one in stock. If they are quiet they might fit it for you. Make sure terminals are tight and cannot rotate after fitting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭baldshin


    Brought the car to the dealers to have a check, turns out it's a faulty sensor. Replacing it under warranty, which is handy as the warranty is up tomorrow!



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,563 ✭✭✭eagerv


    You were lucky catching it just in time.😊

    I had a hunch it could be the same sensor failure as we had in January. Initially we only had sporadic warnings late last year, but eventually the regen stopped working even though the car was always driveable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭baldshin


    Extremely lucky! Pity any other 2017 owners it happens to from now on in!



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,331 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    Has anyone else had their parking brake/handbrake stop working? Ours has gotten temperemental and has almost stopped working altogether. Hyundai are on it and will replace under warranty, just waiting for parts but was interested to know if this is a common occurrence. The car has 122k kms on it so the brake has had plenty of use :)



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Henrik Squeaking Pest


    Car decided to not take charge any more since Sunday via AC (5 different chargers checked, red plug on dash but 0kW pulled anywhere and cable doesn't lock). I was told that actuator was replaced as part of recall (it's a 172) - but reading through some forums it really does seem like it's same issue

    Will give DC a go later to see if any joy, but is booked in for a look on Friday morning regardless. [edit: DC nothing either - nothing sticks ]

    https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2018/MC-10151892-9999.pdf

    First bit of trouble seen so far :(

    Post edited by [Deleted User] on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,878 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Was actuator replaced before? My 171 had this done years ago..

    Some people on here have had luck temporarily fixing the issue by pulling on the emergency plug release in the boot, and afterwards the cable locked. There are 2 pull cords, one for charging door opening, another for cable lock. It's the cable lock needs a few tugs and it might start to work again. A low 12 volt battery may impact unlocking and locking of the cable.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Henrik Squeaking Pest


    I did that again with zero anticipation of success and somehow it got something working again but is very temperamental.

    Need the car this evening but will get the 12v out tonight and have a look at it.

    I believe the actuator was replaced but have no clue whether or not it was. Either way should be warranteed first or second time round I hope!

    Post edited by [Deleted User] on


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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Henrik Squeaking Pest


    New actuator fitted under warranty today anyway. Happy enough with that!



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,237 ✭✭✭Orebro


    Hi all, came out to a dead 12v battery this morning (2020 Ioniq 38) - think I left the doors unlocked overnight and Bluelink kept pinging notifications which I didn’t see which I suspect drained the battery.

    Does anyone know if it’s possible to get my car added to the Hyundai 5 year roadside assist? (I imported the car myself from NI) I phoned the number but they said although it was eligible, but as it is an import a dealer will need to confirm it with them before they can cover it for call outs - is this something a dealer will do for me or will I get two fingers from them with it being an import?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,878 ✭✭✭zg3409


    I have a UK 28kWh ioniq in Dublin. I emailed the vin to Hyundai Ireland who checked for free recalls and added me. I never attempted the free break down but I would have thought it applied.

    I do bring a jumper pack with me everywhere 24/7 and I am on my third 12 volt battery in 4 years. I suggest you replace battery at your own expense in local motor factors before as it's probably damaged now. Even leaving boot slightly open (coat caught in door) will mean 12 volt will run down overnight or in 20 minutes in my case as I have a 12 volt battery voltage logger fitted.

    Some local motor factors may not have physically right size but bring car and ask them to fit it. It needs to be small as big batteries don't fit and it needs to have right mounting etc.

    In terms of breakdown I bring a compressor, good tyre spanner, extra can of tyre gue, and small jumper pack. I also try have tyres with good grip as this can prevent punctures. I've usually got the car going again in less than 2 minutes myself.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭loopymum


    Hi. Will be based in Thurles for upto a week. Thinking of heading upto Belfast & seeing a bit of the north.

    Would we be mad to do it in the ioniq 28? Might possibly do the giants causeway as well?

    2 adults & 2 kids so we could bring the diesel guzzler & the ioniq to Thurles & use the ioniq for any trips within the Republic. I'm concerned that there aren't enough paid chargers in the North & lots of hogging



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,222 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    My only concern would be north of the border. We're on our second Ioniq28, I've done nearly 100k km in the two in ireland and would never consider not bringing it

    If going north I'd get somewhere with destination charging or navigate my route around the maxol with paid fast charging



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭loopymum


    Thanks Elm, I would bring it anywhere normally but reading about the hogging in the North is putting me off. I dont mind paying for it.

    Is there a good network of maxol charging points in the North?

    Destination charging has been more miss than hit for me here in the Republic. Couldnt find the ev charger for ages the last time we staying in a Dublin hotel & when we did it was Iced.

    Before that it das phevs on the all the charges for days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,222 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    I think there's only 1!



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,237 ✭✭✭Orebro


    Thanks!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,878 ✭✭✭zg3409


    See plugshare app. Try to stay somewhere each night with a charger. Charge up to 90%+ before crossing border and try charge at every CCS charger on the way. There is a new 50kW DC at lidl in Belfast city but overall diesel might be less stress with family on board.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭loopymum


    Got in the car this morning & it's throwing up errors about aeb not working& bsd not working. Smart cruise control also not working, neither is regen.

    Have had an occasional error about check ev system in the late few months. I'm wondering if I change or out the 12v would it sort all the issues?



  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,398 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    That sounds like the 12v to me alright. Has the car been sitting without moving for a bit lately?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭loopymum


    No, only the very odd day it would not get used. I was out yesterday in it & came home with 10% battery in it. Charged it to 100 overnight



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,563 ✭✭✭eagerv


    We had something similar just before we traded ours at end of last year. Thought it may have been the 12V but was a rear sensor that was replaced under warranty. I think someone else here had the same..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,878 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Did car start, did it drive, did the errors go away? Did they go away on second drive? Typically I recommend replacing 12 volt every 2 years as a precaution and always carry a small jumper pack in glove box.

    How old is 12 volt battery?

    If errors went away then it's likely a 12 volt from a local motor factors will keep you going for another year or two.

    Typically an error in say a wheel speed sensor will cause loads of systems to disable themselves like your errors. Sometimes a stone could knock one out of place or damage wiring. If it happens first after start up it's unlikely something was damaged while stopped.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭loopymum


    The car is driving, errors haven't gone away on restarting. I've had the car 19months & i have not replaced the 12volt



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,878 ✭✭✭zg3409


    If under warranty bring to dealer. If not under warranty replace battery, and if issues don't go away ask dealer for a quote and consider non dealer repairs such as EV specialist in Arklow



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,222 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Try trickle charging the 12v or at least get a multimeter on it.

    If you're on the latest software it shouldnt be an issue. My Ioniq28 does a top up of the 12v (indicated by flashing middle blue light) every odd day.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭loopymum


    In & out of the car yesterday afternoon & it went off after a bit.

    No errors today



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭quenching


    My 172 Ioniq is due it’s service according to the car display, well 1200 miles overdue. I called 2 Hyundai dealers today, the first said it would be €279 as “the battery coolant needed to be changed” at 60k miles. From what I can tell the battery in a 28kWh Ioniq is air cooled so I’m a bit puzzled by that, but open to correction.

    The 2nd dealer quoted €179, no mention of coolant change. I had the mileage wrong for the first dealer though, I originally thought 50k miles but the correct figure of 42k miles was given to the 2nd dealer. Both garages in Dublin.

    What should a 42k mile service on a 172 Ioniq 28kWh actually cost these days?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,878 ✭✭✭zg3409


    There is no coolant for battery. There is coolant green stuff for inverter but I don't think it ever needs changing. Check the date your 5 year "everything" warranty is out with Hyundai and if already out you can reset the service warning yourself. Go into the steering wheel menu and under service just hold the button in and it will reset. I needed to do this as dealer forgot.

    If out of warranty go to back street place to give it a once over. The NCT will also give it a quick safety test every 2 years. Do the standard stuff yourself such as tyre thread depth, tyre pressure (in menu) , and you can charge the pollen filter yourself for about 15 euro with no tools inside glove box.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,354 ✭✭✭jprboy


    What should a 42k mile service on a 172 Ioniq 28kWh actually cost these days?

    I recently had a 60k km (not a huge amount less than 42k miles) service carried out.

    Total cost was €95 and this included a new pollen filter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭quenching


    Could you say where? It’s not due an NCT until next year so I’d be happy enough to pay this for a “safety check” as there’s no work needed. Last years service was essentially nothing other than a pollen filter change.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,354 ✭✭✭jprboy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭quenching


    Thanks, I’ll point this out to the Dublin dealers. I suspect their level of interest will be minimal 😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭baldshin


    I had this recently on a 172 model. Would go away intermittently but brought it to the dealer to check as the warranty was running out. Turned out it was a rear sensor that needed to be replaced under warranty. Definitely worth having them scan the car for errors if still in warranty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭baldshin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,961 ✭✭✭rocky


    Bjorn's currently doing a "Sunday driving" test - any predictions on how far he will go? I say 260km





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,718 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Depends on the weather and his speeds. If around 20C and he won't go over 100km/h then he could very well go 270-280km. The only car in the world that will make it's NEDC range 😎



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,563 ✭✭✭eagerv


    He will need to improve a bit, perhaps I misheard on the few mins of live stream I watched, but think he's on about 110Wh/km. Which is Model 3 RWD territory in those conditions and speed.

    My guess 235km..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,718 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    245.1km

    100Wh/km means he did not have the full 28kWh avaiable, otherwise he would have made 280km. Is this car a bit older / higher mileage / with degradation?

    Watched the last wee while. Quite hilly and I think he said 27C, neither are ideal. But still almost 25% higher than the WLTP range so not bad. Wish I still had mine, I would have liked to make 300km on a good day, just to prove a point (and no, not using any hypermiling techniques, just driving smoothly)



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