Athletics 2021

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jamule wrote: »

good stuff from Lavin. Q and a pb

Third PB in 10 days!

walshb

28064212 wrote: »

Third PB in 10 days!

If this was an athlete from any other country you'd have the usual suspects on here claiming this, that and the other.

The Black Oil

Chat with Konstanze Klosterhalfen who was mentioned earlier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-mrYQ1AmQg

Posting re Craig Engels because when he next turns up in an 80s music video it'll be account of his hair. :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzRdBKne9u0

API

The Black Oil wrote: »

Chat with Konstanze Klosterhalfen who was mentioned earlier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-mrYQ1AmQg

Posting re Craig Engels because when he next turns up in an 80s music video it'll be account of his hair. :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzRdBKne9u0

That's the first time I've watched Konstanze Klosterhalfen being interviewed though shes been on the circuit a long time.
Shes a joy to watch.

I cant watch the other guy, hes so in love with himself and the camera its painful. Luckily he has the talent to back it up.

OOnegative

walshb wrote: »

If this was an athlete from any other country you'd have the usual suspects on here claiming this, that and the other.

If you feel the need to argue with someone I can make such accusations to keep you happy.........

API

Hamachi wrote: »

It comes across as arrogance though, not good craic with Jakob.

His comments about Marcin Lewandowski being twice his age and losing his speed, were borderline obnoxious. Talented athlete, but not likeable.

I'd tend to agree with you. With Bolt it was more showmanship in a humorous way with his OTT Bolt lightening imitations etc.

Maybe its just that in general Jamaicans seem relaxed and chilled and Nordics seem more serious....


His talent is obviously a pleasure to watch and much needed.

Hamachi

API wrote: »

That's the first time I've watched Konstanze Klosterhalfen being interviewed though shes been on the circuit a long time.
Shes a joy to watch.

If you speak any German or can find closed captions, there’s quite a few interviews with her in the German media.

She’s a very impressive athlete and person. I watched a particularly combative interview with her in the leading German weekly sports show where the moderator virtually accused her of doping because she trains under Pete Julian in Oregon. She handled a difficult situation very well.

She also receives a significant amount of abuse on German social media for her weight. Some of the comments I’ve read are truly appalling. It’s water off a ducks back though. Despite her timid exterior, she’s clearly very strong mentally and is a warrior on the track. I see an Olympic gold medal in her future.

walshb

Just heard Tobin qualified for 3000 final. Delighted for him.

walshb

OOnegative wrote: »

If you feel the need to argue with someone I can make such accusations to keep you happy.........

No.

Best to keep this thread on topic.

API

Hamachi wrote: »

If you speak any German or can find closed captions, there’s quite a few interviews with her in the German media.

She’s a very impressive athlete and person. I watched a particularly combative interview with her in the leading German weekly sports show where the moderator virtually accused her of doping because she trains under Pete Julian in Oregon. She handled a difficult situation very well.

She also receives a significant amount of abuse on German social media for her weight. Some of the comments I’ve read are truly appalling. It’s water off a ducks back though. Despite her timid exterior, she’s clearly very strong mentally and is a warrior on the track. I see an Olympic gold medal in her future.

Yeah, I'm not going to lie I have tended to feel a bit suspicious of anyone training on the Oregon project especially athletes who improved a lot like Hassan.

I have also seen some nasty comments about her weight and her form.

She's obviously a very strong athlete, I havn't heard of her having stress fracture problems. You wont get very far in middle distance with weight on you.

I agree with you about the medals in the Olympics, maybe not this summer (if it goes ahead) but you never know.

Chivito550

API wrote: »

Yeah, I'm not going to lie I have tended to feel a bit suspicious of anyone training on the Oregon project especially athletes who improved a lot like Hassan.

I have also seen some nasty comments about her weight and her form.

She's obviously a very strong athlete, I havn't heard of her having stress fracture problems. You wont get very far in middle distance with weight on you.

I agree with you about the medals in the Olympics, maybe not this summer (if it goes ahead) but you never know.

She got bronze in Doha. She has every chance of a medal in Tokyo.

API

Chivito550 wrote: »

She got bronze in Doha. She has every chance of a medal in Tokyo.

I'd love to see her medal, we'll see if it transpires.

yerwanthere123

Hamachi wrote: »

If you speak any German or can find closed captions, there’s quite a few interviews with her in the German media.

She’s a very impressive athlete and person. I watched a particularly combative interview with her in the leading German weekly sports show where the moderator virtually accused her of doping because she trains under Pete Julian in Oregon. She handled a difficult situation very well.

She also receives a significant amount of abuse on German social media for her weight. Some of the comments I’ve read are truly appalling. It’s water off a ducks back though. Despite her timid exterior, she’s clearly very strong mentally and is a warrior on the track. I see an Olympic gold medal in her future.

What do you think will be her best/most competitive distance? I think she could maybe go sub 30 for 10k, but with Hassan and Gidey on the scene I can't see Koko ever winning a gold there.

Regarding the NOP comments I think in Klosterhalfen's defence she was only ever there a matter of weeks.

API

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

What do you think will be her best/most competitive distance? I think she could maybe go sub 30 for 10k, but with Hassan and Gidey on the scene I can't see Koko ever winning a gold there.

Regarding the NOP comments I think in Klosterhalfen's defence she was only ever there a matter of weeks.

Gidey has really come on, there so much competition in the 10k. I don't see her getting a medal. Maybe 4th or 5th.

yerwanthere123

API wrote: »

Gidey has really come on, there so much competition in the 10k. I don't see her getting a medal. Maybe 4th or 5th.

Maybe bronze at a push, but she'd still be battling against the likes of Tirop and Obiri for that. I'm already looking forward to the 10k in Tokyo if it happens, could see Hassan and Gidey going down to the wire, with an even closer finish than in Doha.

API

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Maybe bronze at a push, but she'd still be battling against the likes of Tirop and Obiri for that. I'm already looking forward to the 10k in Tokyo if it happens, could see Hassan and Gidey going down to the wire, with an even closer finish than in Doha.

Exactly, I totally agree with you. Its going to be such an exciting race and will go down to form and tactics on the day since its so competitive. Such a fantastic field. I still don't see Koko beating the Africans though.

Chivito550

Just on the Koko craic, is that a silly nickname the Americans gave her? Never heard that name used for her til she moved there.

API

Chivito550 wrote: »

Just on the Koko craic, is that a silly nickname the Americans gave her? Never heard that name used for her til she moved there.

lol, I know it reminds me of Koko the clown. I've only heard it a few times but the only time I've heard a commentator saying it was at the Texas meet.
I don't think they'd get away with it on the BBC etc.

That's nothing compared to the ESPN commentators talking casually about Allie O's weight.

Hamachi

Chivito550 wrote: »

Just on the Koko craic, is that a silly nickname the Americans gave her? Never heard that name used for her til she moved there.

To be fair to the Americans, it’s not them. It’s a nickname her parents and brothers gave her when she was a child, because her full name is so long to pronounce.

Konstanze is quite an old fashioned German name. It would like a young Irish woman being called Mary. Klosterhalfen is also quite an unusual German family name. I never heard it in the 10 years I lived there.

It’s just as well they didn’t start calling her KoKlo. Klo is the German slang for toilet, like the bog or the jacks in English

Hamachi

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

What do you think will be her best/most competitive distance? I think she could maybe go sub 30 for 10k, but with Hassan and Gidey on the scene I can't see Koko ever winning a gold there.
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You’re totally right. I see her more like a young Paula Radcliffe. I see her winning the Olympic marathon in 2028. I think the marathon will ultimately prove to be her best event.

yerwanthere123

Just a few comments on the action so far.. disappointing to see Clérigh Butter go out so meekly. Hope Nadia races well later, looking at her competition, I think she should make the final handily enough? Although a bit scared after seeing people on here saying she looked a bit laboured.

Don't know what happened to Mark English in his heat, looked to be cruising and then almost lost his place. I know he had the stumble but was it just carelessness on his part? Looked to be struggling a bit crossing the line. Cian McPhillips looked great though, barely looked like he was out of second gear. I'd say he has a shot at making the final too? Would be impressive at just 18.

Glad to see Jakob got reinstated. Even if there was a rule break he really didn't gain any advantage, plus it'd have been a hollow, hollow win for Lewandowski. Looking forward to the 3000m final tomorrow, he should win that with his eyes closed. Also hoping Krause can medal later but I have my doubts.

yerwanthere123

Clinical from Keeley Hodgkinson. Thought Jozwik might have left it a bit late there but no bother to her. Nadia next up.

Itziger

Looked laboured. I know that's the way she tends to look but that was not great. Tired, I'd say.

Itziger

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Clinical from Keeley Hodgkinson. Thought Jozwik might have left it a bit late there but no bother to her. Nadia next up.

She looks like the real deal, that one.

Caprica

Disappointing from Power, one of her slower times. She has had a good indoor season, hopefully she can push on get to Tokyo.

3 more British ladies in to a middle distance final, some strength in depth. Hodgkinson looked very impressive.

Not sure I agree with Derval saying she is young and needs more years. I think the 800 ladies were a bit disappointing in Toruń.

waynescales1

Power looked exhausted at 700m. 4 secs off her SB. 2:03 for the winner, slow enough race. She has to be disappointed.

Caprica

Poor Garcia, he really deserved a final spot with that front running. Tuka looked good.

walshb

Had to laugh at Irish commentator: 300 to go. “They’re not gonna’ catch him.”

He was about 6/7 metres ahead, not 60-70

Wottle

Nádia ran a belter mid Feb in Toran and I'm almost sure I saw her put up a post saying that's it, last race before Champs but then the following week she raced again in Madrid and it was quite a tough race, she went with the early pace and died the last 200m, still ran 2'01 mind.
She just looked tired in Rd 1 & tonight, hopefully from a prep/peaking pov she's learned a lot.
Bright future ahead.

ACitizenErased

McPhillips time now

jamule

walshb wrote: »

Had to laugh at Irish commentator: 300 to go. “They’re not gonna’ catch him.”

He was about 6/7 metres ahead, not 60-70

was suprised he got caught nyself. Mattews would have a fair idea about 800m.

ACitizenErased

Thats some serious pace from the off

walshb

jamule wrote: »

was suprised he got caught nyself. Mattews would have a fair idea about 800m.

I wasn’t....

Happens so much at 800. You could see he was taking it out too hard..

ACitizenErased

Cian McPhillips sets a european u20 record

Caprica

That was a very fast race. Kramer went out to hard, I had him as a medal contender.

A fantastic Euro U20 record for McPhillips. He has a bright future ahead of him.

The Pole is disqualified so Kramer goes through. I’m sure there’ll be an appeal.

waynescales1

Wottle wrote: »

She just looked tired in Rd 1 & tonight, hopefully from a prep/peaking pov she's learned a lot.
Bright future ahead.

Exactly. Why not build towards these major competitions rather than arriving to them drained?

Wottle

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Cian McPhillips sets a european u20 record

He ran 1:46:13 last week

The Buster

walshb wrote: »

Had to laugh at Irish commentator: 300 to go. “They’re not gonna’ catch him.”

He was about 6/7 metres ahead, not 60-70

And with 100m left for cian mcphillips he was 10 metres down and he said cian is showing great maturity by not getting involved in the battle at the front:rolleyes:

Itziger

Solid from the young lad. I like the cut of his jib.

walshb

The Buster wrote: »

And with 100m left for cian mcphillips he was 10 metres down and he said cian is showing great maturity by not getting involved in the battle at the front:rolleyes:

FFS...I missed that..

Cartman78

Garcia made a right balls of that, looked like he panicked a bit in the last 10 metres when he saw the 2 lads over his shoulder

walshb

English not at the races

waynescales1

Bosse with the most French looking moustache ever grown.

Caprica

Well done Kszczot. He had to work for that. I’ve always enjoyed over the years, a great championship performer. Bosse looked very impressive.

jamule

terrible positioning from english, he had to make a surge at 300 and that the end of him

KaneToad

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Cian McPhillips sets a european u20 record

Why doesn't his 1:46:13 count as a record?

hurdles1

Wottle wrote: »

Nádia ran a belter mid Feb in Toran and I'm almost sure I saw her put up a post saying that's it, last race before Champs but then the following week she raced again in Madrid and it was quite a tough race, she went with the early pace and died the last 200m, still ran 2'01 mind.
She just looked tired in Rd 1 & tonight, hopefully from a prep/peaking pov she's learned a lot.
Bright future ahead.

Spot on... she picked up a few quid for finishing
2nd in world series but too many races over a number of weeks left her flat here. Oppsite fir English lacked match practice needed another couple of races before these champs.

walshb

Track positions at start of 1500? Based on times in semis?

EC1000

KaneToad wrote: »

Why doesn't his 1:46:13 count as a record?

U20 championship record?

Faugheen

Women's 1500m final was such a mess