Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

Tony EH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118439458#Comment_118439458

LOL, Clinton conceded victory to Trump on the night and said the "we must accept the result".

“Last night I congratulated Donald Trump and offered to work with him on behalf of our country. I hope he will be a successful president for all Americans”

A MARKED difference to how the orange twat has been acting since he got his arse handed to him last year.

And there can be no unification with liars and the people who lie on behalf of them. Those people aren't interested in unification. How does one unify with a person and the group who worship him when that group continue to lie about a "stolen election".

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118439468#Comment_118439468

Yet again more deflection.

Here are some comments she made in late 2019.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trump-is-an-illegitimate-president/2019/09/26/29195d5a-e099-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html

Hillary Clinton dismissed President Trump as an “illegitimate president” and suggested that “he knows” that he stole the 2016 presidential election in a CBS News interview to be aired Sunday.

Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118439458#Comment_118439458

Completely forgetting that for four years Senior Democrats, including 2016 loser Hillary Clinton, pretended that the election had been stolen.

Embarrassing.

Hillary conceded the night of the election and Democrats never made any claim about it being stolen.

They didn't have 60+ cases thrown out by the courts where they claimed it was stolen.

They didn't hold audits which actually increased the winners margin..

They didn't hold press conferences in landscaping company parking lots..

They didn't phone state Governor's and beg them to find just enough votes to overturn the result.

And they didn't storm the Capitol in an insurrection.

Tony EH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118439491#Comment_118439491

She STILL conceded the victory to Trump, whether she considered him "illegitimate" or not.

Trump hasn't even got the honour enough to concede victory to Biden and still persists in spreading around a baseless conspiracy theory to placate his mindless entourage.

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118439499#Comment_118439499

Keep saying that.

Hillary Clinton September 2019

No, it doesn’t kill me because he knows he’s an illegitimate president,” she said. “I believe he understands that the many varying tactics they used, from voter suppression and voter purging to hacking to the false stories — he knows that — there were just a bunch of different reasons why the election turned out like it did.”

The Phantom Jipper

If memory serves correct, it was in fact Trump who made claims about the 2016 election being rigged and stolen, before the election took place. However he changed his mind after he won. Same story with the Republican nomination after he lost the initial caucus in Iowa to Ted Cruz. Same story with the Emmys when his little TV show didn't win.

How many times does he need to do this before it becomes clear that it's just a very frail man desperately trying to protect his ego and avoid looking weak in public, using the same playbook over and over again.

Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118439536#Comment_118439536

Haven't had a 'but, but Hillary!' response in awhile. Now in a Biden thread.

Did she concede? Or did she organize an insurrection? Yinno Antifa was around then, too.

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118439554#Comment_118439554

Yet again the oh Trump did it argument so its ok for Biden or the Democrats to do similar.

Its a tedious and silly argument.

Trump isnt the bar for office of the President. There were 44 Presidents before him.

Biden called for Unity in his Inauguration speech but he hasnt delivered it and isnt practising it, thats my argument, what Trump did is frankly irrelevant.

Tony EH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118439536#Comment_118439536

Whether she later considered Trump "illegitimate" on the back of what emerged in the Muller report is irrespective of the fact she accepted that Trump won the election and that she lost.

On the other hand Trump and his mindless cultists are STILL going around spreading an absolutely baseless lie about a massive conspiracy where he supposedly won and somehow Biden still got ushered into the White House.

The Phantom Jipper

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118439580#Comment_118439580

Not sure what relevance that spiel has to what I said. Like or loathe the Democrats, there is no equivalence between them and what Trump has tried to do, repeatedly undermining every election he's been involved in.

Tony EH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118439580#Comment_118439580

Biden hasn't received any reciprocation for his appeal to unity has he? All he has had for the entire year is bollocks talk thrown at him about a "stolen election". Repeated lies from liars is no indication that they are interested in any kind of unity.

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118439394#Comment_118439394

More people have died from Covid since Biden took office than under Trump. Thats with the vaccines.

Indeed Biden recently conceded that there isnt a federal solution to the problem, and that the virus will have to be dealt with on a state-by-state level.

Manic Moran

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118439580#Comment_118439580

I’m not sure that’s entirely fair. The nature of multiple parties is that there are going to be differences of policies to be enacted and differences within his own party have required moderation even before considering what Republicans are interested in. The question of unity shouldn’t be unity of policy, which is impossible, but instead unity of cause, that everyone is part of the same government and the same nation, and treats each other as such. The whole “election is stolen” business is the Republicans failing in this as a more extreme example and deserves to be called out. We need to get past that before we can get to anything approaching unity of policy, such as quid pro quo legislative deals, but the party in the majority by definition has the authority to have primacy of weight. Biden has, in general, seems to have been an adherent to this idea that the opposition are members of government as well and have a right to be there.

That said, there is a lack of unity of cause at the operational congressional level, but that is the purview of folks like Pelosi or McCarthy, not Biden. It’s been called out directly by folks like Gabbard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6urQjuO9eI

duploelabs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118439698#Comment_118439698

And which side of the aisle are out there trying to stop wearing of masks and other covid prevention methods??

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118439468#Comment_118439468

The tone of your remarks is not one that supports the idea of trying to achieve "unity".

And the same applies to Biden.

Rubbing in his victory over Trump is hardly a recipe for "unity", no matter how much you dislike the other side.

It's clearly designed to antagonise.

Tony EH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118440288#Comment_118440288

Is this supposed to be serious?

Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118440288#Comment_118440288

'Accuse others of that which you are guilty.' Conservative mantra 101.

Biden has been more than accommodating to Conservatives, he has strongly resisted calls from within his own party for ambitious initiatives such as expanded education, student debt relief, prescription drug price lowering etc. He hasn't done anything with respect to other things most Democrats are largely comfortable with such as expanding the supreme court and abolishing the filibuster which would have helped pass the John Lewis Voting rights act.

And what he has been met with Republican representatives using the 'Lets go Brandon' euphemism on the floor of the house, other Republicans using the phrase on their marketing material and several Republicans campaigning locally for having secured funds for their region from Bills Biden pushed which they voted against.

Not to mention the efforts that they have gone to to undermine the national effort to tackle Covid in an appropriate manner.

But we have the right wing advocates ignoring all of this reality to parrot the same mealy mouthed 'woe is me' phrase pushed by Fox News and other outlets saying that Biden should be doing more to reach out to them. It's probably part of the ingrained privilege and sense of entitlement that many of them have grown up with that the idea that people aren't bending over backwards to accommodate them is tantamount to bullying and abuse.

And they do all this while doing their best to ensure that most divisive President of any of our lifetimes is elected again in 2024. Would you ever go away and take some time to check in with reality.

ceadaoin.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118440179#Comment_118440179

Just wondering who is trying to stop wearing of masks, politician wise?

Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118442547#Comment_118442547

This guy

Governor Abbott Issues Executive Order Prohibiting Government Entities From Mandating Masks

And this guy

Gov. DeSantis' ban on mask mandates in Florida schools reinstated for now

And this madam

Marjorie Taylor Greene boasts about being unvaccinated and getting $60,500 in fines for defying mask mandates

The courts had to step in in Arkansas

Arkansas judge blocks state from enforcing mask mandate ban

And this lad

Dr. Rand Paul Introduces Legislation to Repeal Mask Mandates on Public Transportation  

And this lady

Rep. Lauren Boebert threw a mask at a staffer who asked her to wear one, as some GOP lawmakers refused to follow the House's new mask mandate

Here's a wider story on the topic

GOP mask defiance is all about the 2022 ballot box

Can you spot a common denominator?

All the above are about masks, there's similar BS rhetoric from Republicans about the vaccine. Bear in mind, it is in the midst of this that Republicans look to Blame Biden for not controlling Covid.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118439458#Comment_118439458

And that, right there is the problem.

BLM riots arising from decades of racial injustice and protests being quashed = storming the capital because they were lied to about an election.

Biden calling out trump for what he did on = Trump being the most divisive president of all time

Psaki being snide = years of being lied to by successive aids and from the very first over, trump taking questions beside a helicopter so he could down out the questions, those WH press conferences being cancelled or reduced to effectively a nil amount

Biden misleading or lying on a topic once = he is the same as trump who lied prolifically

It is either a willingness/eagerness to equivocate on a false basis or an inability to see differences between 1 on a scale or 10. It you're on the scale, you're the same regardless

Throw in a blind faith which enables them believe exactly what they want to believe and what you end up with is a situation where you cannot progress any debate with those like that.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118442504#Comment_118442504

Yet Biden continues to tank in the ratings.

Fifty-six percent of voters now say they disapprove of the job Biden is doing, the worst such reading of his presidency as he approaches the end of his first year in office, according to new CNBC/Change Research poll. Prior polls in the series showed Biden’s disapproval rating at 54% in early September and 49% in April.

extra gravy

bUT tHe aPproVal ratiNgs

Always the fallback option when you have no other argument 😂

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118443010#Comment_118443010

What do you disapprove of?

Faugheen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118443218#Comment_118443218

Woke transgender something something

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118442625#Comment_118442625

Thank you for giving a perfect example of what I said just a few posts earlier.

Yet again the oh Trump did it argument so its ok for Biden or the Democrats to do similar.

Its a tedious and silly argument.

Trump isnt the bar for office of the President. There were 44 Presidents before him.

Biden called for Unity in his Inauguration speech but he hasnt delivered it and isnt practising it, thats my argument, what Trump did is frankly irrelevant.

Why do you and others keep saying They and You plural ?

Who exactly are you referring to ?

Me ? Trump Supporters ? Republicans ? The 74m people who voted for Trump ?

Whats this obsession by you and others calling other posters far right, since when is being a Centrist deemed to be far right ?

Cody montana

I miss the days when we actually had debate.

Joe is president for a year now, things have gone in the right direction, long may it continue.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118443218#Comment_118443218

It doesn't matter what I think; 56% of the US population disapprove of Joe Biden and his policies.

Cody montana

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118443533#Comment_118443533

Yeah, f**k having an opinion!

You tell em.

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118443521#Comment_118443521

When was that ?

I dont think posters posting derogatory and snide posts about a President on a daily basis for over 4 years is healthy debate.

For some it never ended, its like a daily form of pressure release.

Cody montana

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118443593#Comment_118443593

Well maybe you should stop getting easily offended?

Im assuming you’re applying those standards to politicians too?