Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

gmisk

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Cant be as bad as the two tits running the country already :pac::pac::pac::pac:

I wouldn't be so sure...
You just need to look at some of their comments.
Michael Healy Rae plays the part but is pretty wiley....Danny though....

The caricatures who pretend to be working class comment is spot on.
Just look at Danny Healy Rae for example hugely wealthy....a massive chunk of it built from plant hire...who's main client is....the council.

BTownB

I have always been left of centre. But I find myself being pushed to the right day-by-day by the political response to the virus. Anyone else similar?

The left-wing parties are advocating for tougher lockdowns and I can't get behind that.

Is anyone in politics putting forward an alternative strategy? If a group does this I feel they will get a lot of support. And I don't want to see the rise of a right wing party but the response of the government and other political parties is leaving a massive gap.

gmisk

SnuggyBear wrote: »

I knew it wouldn't be long until someone said this. It is good guage infairness, there used to be a lot of support for lockdown but not now.
I ask you do you think people are at breaking point or not? The light at the end of the tunnel has been extinguished.

No it isn't.
Neither is boards.ie...or we would have Peter Casey as president...lol.

Some people are fed up, but the majority imo still support lockdowns.
If anything I think people would go for a tougher lockdown for a shorter amount of time if it was heavily enforced.

JMNolan

In our household we've just given up with restrictions and we do what we think is sensible. When we're told there is no let up in sight then we have to make our own decisions. And "you're killing old people" doesn't really wash anymore.

normanoffside

BTownB wrote: »

I have always been left of centre. But I find myself being pushed to the right day-by-day by the political response to the virus. Anyone else similar?

The left-wing parties are advocating for tougher lockdowns and I can't get behind that.

Yes 100% and I've let my resident left wing opposition TD know that too.

ypres5

gmisk wrote: »

No it isn't.
Neither is boards.ie...or we would have Peter Casey as president...lol

Some people are fed up, but the majority imo still support lockdowns.

to be fair some of that support is due to people being clobbered by the media about how necessary lockdowns are. when was the last time the mainstream media questioned it bar a few opinion columns? also i think a lot of that support is conditional on the PUP and other policies and the assumption that a vaccine is the endgame. i think if the government start this prickery of demanding restrictions until angola papua new guinea and East Timor are vaccinated i think they'll lose a lot of support

Hmob

normanoffside wrote: »

Yes 100% and I've let my resident left wing opposition TD know that too.

Left wing is just a small incoherent rabble here

The majority think like the government

We dont have a left-right divide like the UK

Graham

gmisk wrote: »

No it isn't.
Neither is boards.ie...or we would have Peter Casey as president...lol.

Some people are fed up, but the majority imo still support lockdowns.
If anything people I think people would go for a tougher lockdown for a shorter amount of time if it was heavily enforced.

I think everyone is fed up but I also agree that most still understand the need for restrictions.

The problem we're going to have now is the small but growing number of people who are trying to work around the restrictions, it's just going to prolong things for everyone else.

Before we know it, schools and construction are going to be put on the slow track until the numbers are back under control.

Multipass

JMNolan wrote: »

In our household we've just given up with restrictions and we do what we think is sensible. When we're told there is no let up in sight then we have to make our own decisions. And "you're killing old people" doesn't really wash anymore.

Have been doing this all along - my parents didn’t want to be ‘saved’ by spending what could be their final years anyway, in isolation. Have been careful where it matters, but go for walks outside 5km because that’s just the most stupid of all the playground rules.

paw patrol

dublinbando wrote: »

5th of March I am returning to normal life as much as I can, I will no longer abide by any travel restriction and I will no longer wear a mask in public. If they fine me I won't pay it, if they jail me for not paying the fine then I will stop eating in protest.

Been living like this all time since last june. Haven't had much issue.
I was thrown out of one shop for not wearing a mask - their loss. The rest don't care or ask me a standard question once I reply , it's all good.
I wore one in a taxi cos the man asked , the other taxis haven't asked so I didn't bother. As for the shop that made an issue , I smiled and said thanks and left.

I'd go beyond my 5k a lot more if there was something to do bar the beach and a few mates but there isn't. So my rebellion is in a way limited (and pathetic) to visiting a few mates and the beach.

The only stick I've gotten is off friends/acquaintances who think that a pandemic means we will all die. Which isn't the definition , but sadly George Lee et al. have more pull than a frustrated IT functionary who rants online.:(

SnuggyBear

ypres5 wrote: »

to be fair some of that support is due to people being clobbered by the media about how necessary lockdowns are. when was the last time the mainstream media questioned it bar a few opinion columns? also i think a lot of that support is conditional on the PUP and other policies and the assumption that a vaccine is the endgame. i think if the government start this prickery of demanding restrictions until angola papua new guinea and East Timor are vaccinated i think they'll lose a lot of support

Now they announce that pup tax must be paid this year. I owe nearly 2k tax. I'm already gone into my savings and I cant work until June? I can pay my bills and mortgage and that's it. I'm living like this for nearly a year. Unbelievable

titan18

SnuggyBear wrote: »

I knew it wouldn't be long until someone said this. It is good guage infairness, there used to be a lot of support for lockdown but not now.
I ask you do you think people are at breaking point or not? The light at the end of the tunnel has been extinguished.

Yup, I'd be one. I was heavily pro lockdown last March and April and thought it should have been tougher. Thought we should have locked down sooner in October and knew we'd fcuk up at Christmas (although not as badly as that) and I was grand with doing a lockdown til March but after that, it's too long. Cases will likely be sub 500, maybe 600 at worst and you can reopen some items at that and still keep cases decreasing.

I adhered to restrictions all along and saw others take the piss, but this is just annoying now. They couldn't be bothered enforcing stuff against the people breaking rules and now we're all being punished cos of that. It's like being back in school where you all get extra homework cos one person does something and doesn't own up.

Hellrazer

normanoffside wrote: »

It’s very little in the grand scheme of this but yesterday I emailed my local TDs to let them know how I felt. I suggest you and anyone else fed up do the same. If enough people do it perhaps they will get the message.

If anyone else feels like doing the same Ive attached the email address of every TD in Dail Eireann as an excel file.

RobitTV

Conservative MP for Broxbourne, Charles Walker is really pi**** off with Boris and Matt Hancock. He says we have the vaccine and they are still offering people no hope and they are robbing people of hope, and he calls it very stupid, short sighted and dangerous.

https://twitter.com/mollygiles2015/status/1359585385387610112

Even with everyone vaccinated, there may well be a new variant or immunity will wear off and we’ll need to start vaccinating again. While we are doing that, we’ll simply have to suppress the virus. And how will we do that.... Drum Roll....

Lockdown!

Leo mentioned having finances to last until 2023 the other day. A good indication of where their heads are at.

I still think this nonsense has to end in 2021 though. Most people were prepared to give up 2020. Most people are ok with having a quiet January.

But I think people will just quietly start going back about their lives fairly soon.

SnuggyBear

RobitTV wrote: »

Conservative MP for Broxbourne, Charles Walker is really pi**** off with Boris and Matt Hancock. He says we have the vaccine and they are still offering people no hope and they are robbing people of hope, and he calls it very stupid, short sighted and dangerous.

https://twitter.com/mollygiles2015/status/1359585385387610112

I like this guy

batman_oh

gmisk wrote: »

No it isn't.
Neither is boards.ie...or we would have Peter Casey as president...lol.

Some people are fed up, but the majority imo still support lockdowns.
If anything I think people would go for a tougher lockdown for a shorter amount of time if it was heavily enforced.

Which will achieve nothing. They've already had the longest restrictions in the world and they will go on far longer than anywhere else. And it's not resulted in us doing better than anywhere else. They could close everything for months and get it to almost nothing (like last summer) and they would still have restrictions in place for another year

alentejo

I wish they could extend the 5k restrictions even to 10k. Mentally this would help me.

gmisk

paw patrol wrote: »

Been living like this all time since last june. Haven't had much issue.
I was thrown out of one shop for not wearing a mask - their loss. The rest don't care or ask me a standard question once I reply , it's all good.
I wore one in a taxi cos the man asked , the other taxis haven't asked so I didn't bother. As for the shop that made an issue , I smiled and said thanks and left.

I'd go beyond my 5k a lot more if there was something to do bar the beach and a few mates but there isn't. So my rebellion is in a way limited (and pathetic) to visiting a few mates and the beach.

The only stick I've gotten is off friends/acquaintances who think that a pandemic means we will all die. Which isn't the definition , but sadly George Lee et al. have more pull than a frustrated IT functionary who rants online.:(

What the big deal with wearing a mask in a shop?
What your logic with that?

I am 100 percent with the shop for throwing you out well done.

Kunta Kinte

Deleted User wrote: »

Even with everyone vaccinated, there may well be a new variant or immunity will wear off and we’ll need to start vaccinating again. While we are doing that, we’ll simply have to suppress the virus. And how will we do that.... Drum Roll....

Lockdown!

Leo mentioned having finances to last until 2023 the other day. A good indication of where their heads are at.

I still think this nonsense has to end in 2021 though. Most people were prepared to give up 2020. Most people are ok with having a quiet January.

But I think people will just quietly start going back about their lives fairly soon.

You have been completely wide of the mark in everything you have predicted since the virus first appeared here. You will be mistaken again.

SnuggyBear

gmisk wrote: »

I am 100 percent with the shop for throwing you out well done.

I don't think he really cares that you are 100 percent with the shop

SnuggyBear

alentejo wrote: »

I wish they could extend the 5k restrictions even to 10k. Mentally this would help me.

Why are you sticking to 5k? Wishing you could go to 10k? Is this what we are reduced to?

Hellrazer

Hellrazer wrote: »

If anyone else feels like doing the same Ive attached the email address of every TD in Dail Eireann as an excel file.

It would be a great idea to get an email campaign going...

If we all had the same mail, same subject, etc and spam the hell out of them all.

It would definitely be noticed if enough did it.

Silentcorner

JMNolan wrote: »

In our household we've just given up with restrictions and we do what we think is sensible. When we're told there is no let up in sight then we have to make our own decisions. And "you're killing old people" doesn't really wash anymore.

What is killing old people is social isolation, just been to a funeral this week of such a case.

Keeping the elderly away from their families, grandkids and social outlets is deranged, doing the similar to our kids is as bad.

We need to take the simple things in life back from the ridiculous over reach of the state, pay no attention to the curtain twitchers who have swallowed the hysteria whole and are happy to live their own sad lives indoors!

gmisk

SnuggyBear wrote: »

I don't think he really cares that you are 100 percent with the shop

Huh?
I don't care, but people are entitled to their opinion, the last time I checked that was allowed on boards?
People post things and other people reply....mad idea I know.

normanoffside

Deleted User wrote: »

It would be a great idea to get an email campaign going...

If we all had the same mail, same subject, etc and spam the hell out of them all.

It would definitely be noticed if enough did it.

I think it’s better for everyone to compose their own mail. It’s more genuine that way.

Windmill100000

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Even with everyone vaccinated, there may well be a new variant or immunity will wear off and we’ll need to start vaccinating again. While we are doing that, we’ll simply have to suppress the virus. And how will we do that.... Drum Roll....

Lockdown!

Leo mentioned having finances to last until 2023 the other day. A good indication of where their heads are at.

I still think this nonsense has to end in 2021 though. Most people were prepared to give up 2020. Most people are ok with having a quiet January.

But I think people will just quietly start going back about their lives fairly soon.

Really? I dont see that happening at all. At least not in the short term with Christmas numbers still very much in the forefront of people's minds.

There has been people against lockdown since the start and not much happened regards organising protests in any significant numbers or challenging restrictions on a mass scale and I dont mean raging on Facebook, which hasn't changed much.

We are all sick of lockdown, but rising up and forcing the government to relax now while numbers are still high seems at best highly optimistic.

I'd imagine anything like that to happen first in the UK before here and the government there has only reinforced regulations by enforcing huge fines and prison sentences. I would think the government here would follow suit.

Until case drop sweet fa is going to change.

Lord Spence

titan18 wrote: »

Yup, I'd be one. I was heavily pro lockdown last March and April and thought it should have been tougher. Thought we should have locked down sooner in October and knew we'd fcuk up at Christmas (although not as badly as that) and I was grand with doing a lockdown til March but after that, it's too long. Cases will likely be sub 500, maybe 600 at worst and you can reopen some items at that and still keep cases decreasing.

I adhered to restrictions all along and saw others take the piss, but this is just annoying now. They couldn't be bothered enforcing stuff against the people breaking rules and now we're all being punished cos of that. It's like being back in school where you all get extra homework cos one person does something and doesn't own up.

You have just explained why lockdowns don't work it does more harm then good literally just delaying the inevitable at such a massive cost, we should of allowed to build herd immunity around the healthy population and then protected the vulnerable with bubbles and social distancing and also introduced antigen testing months and months ago in care homes and hospitals.

Windmill100000

Windmill100000 wrote: »

Really? I dont see that happening at all. At least not in the short term with Christmas numbers still very much in the forefront of people's minds.

There has been people against lockdown since the start and not much happened regards organising protests in any significant numbers or challenging restrictions on a mass scale and I dont mean raging on Facebook, which hasn't changed much.

We are all sick of lockdown, but rising up and forcing the government to relax now while numbers are still high seems at best highly optimistic.

I'd imagine anything like that to happen first in the UK before here and the government there has only reinforced regulations by enforcing huge fines and prison sentences. I would think the government here would follow suit.

Until case drop sweet fa is going to change.

I don’t think we’ll have protests in Ireland on any large scale unless some kind of organisation is involved. I just think people will quietly start going back about their lives again soon.

It will be like late November. Lockdown but everyone seems to have a valid reason to be out and about.

I’ve already started doing it myself. I’d be more willing to give restrictions a chance if the government weren’t talking about lockdown until summer and beyond

Polar101

normanoffside wrote: »

I think it’s better for everyone to compose their own mail. It’s more genuine that way.

Oh.. that's too much work. Revolution postponed.