Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) **Mod warning in OP 22/01**

wirelessdude01

newuser99999 wrote: »

Plenty of student teachers going to house parties too.

Whole thing is insane.

I'm only saying what I know occurred this morning.

Deeec

Hurrache wrote: »

Playdates and sleepover are usually with classmates anyway, so it's going to make little or no difference.

They get to see their friends in school. In current circumstances there is no need for playdates.

wirelessdude01

Sammy2012 wrote: »

Is this true? Our principal is convinced the confirmation will go ahead in April? The class are actually supposed to be joining with another local school too. Nothing from the diocese however but they are planning for it as normal....pressure being put on too to fix a date for communion.

Our principal also has the same silly head in the sand approach. It won't be happening that early and despite my suggestion refuses to allow.othet plans to be drawn up as it will be happening on the date set back in October.

wirelessdude01

Deeec wrote: »

Any parent organising or sending their kids to playdates, parties etc should have their children excluded from school for 14 days. That would soon stop this behaviour. I would imagine teachers hear all about these events from the kids.

Friend of mine who has 1st was telling that the news on the morning they arrived back into school was all about all the playdates and sleepovers they had been on while not in school. People don't see the link at all as sure the message is that children don't get it and don't spread it.

NeuralNetwork

I know a few people who seem to be 100% unwilling to hear anything other than children are incapable of getting or transmitting it, I mean, clearly they're a different species entirely and share nothing in common with adult humans in terms of their biology.

penny piper

newuser99999 wrote: »

Plenty of student teachers going to house parties too.

Whole thing is insane.

I don't think you can expect anything else...once the schools open everyone thinks then it's ok and everyone is out/about....lots of traffic...

penny piper

Hurrache wrote: »

Playdates and sleepover are usually with classmates anyway, so it's going to make little or no difference.

what about community transmission?

average_runner

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Would that not be extra curricular?

Nope, its consider a part of the daily schedule.

Deeec

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Friend of mine who has 1st was telling that the news on the morning they arrived back into school was all about all the playdates and sleepovers they had been on while not in school. People don't see the link at all as sure the message is that children don't get it and don't spread it.

Its baffling how people see it as ok. Im grateful that the schools are reopened and that the kids have some social contact. I accept that for the next few months its just home and school for us and thats what we need to do to keep schools as safe as they can be. Kids understand this and are fine with it

average_runner

History Queen wrote: »

240 hours for English over 3 years. 400 for wellbeing. You still haven't answered the question. Do your own research. You were the one who came on here suggesting schools were not doing enough in these areas seemingly based on zero research.

What question is that?


Can you break your hours down to weekly also.

wirelessdude01

average_runner wrote: »

Nope, its consider a part of the daily schedule.

Primary or secondary school?

average_runner

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Primary or secondary school?

Secondary.


2 hour session for any kid under 12 is highly not recommended.

wirelessdude01

average_runner wrote: »

Secondary.


2 hour session for any kid under 12 is highly not recommended.

So what accomodations are made for a kid who has zero interest in sport?

History Queen

average_runner wrote: »

What question is that?


Can you break your hours down to weekly also.

No. There's 33 weeks in the school year so some years have more than others. School discretion once the hours are fulfilled by the end of third year.

I asked you where quality was lacking in our education system. If you knew how many hours are currently dedicated to mental and physical wellbeing and how much more wellbeing you wanted on top of that which is already provided.

average_runner

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

So what accomodations are made for a kid who has zero interest in sport?

They have to do one sport of their choice each term as physical exercise is an important aspect of any teenager life, especially for girls. Please note this does not need to be competitive.







Then if one sport they have enough, they can look at drama, photography, music, and loads of other creative stuff.

average_runner

History Queen wrote: »

No. There's 33 weeks in the school year so some years have more than others. School discretion once the hours are fulfilled by the end of third year.

I asked you where quality was lacking in our education system. If you knew how many hours are currently dedicated to mental and physical wellbeing and how much more wellbeing you wanted on top of that which is already provided.

I answered that. I never said their was quality lacking, i said its not good to measure education in quantity.

blanch152

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

I know of schools that were asked by the HSE today to contact their parents and plead with them to stop organising sleepovers, playdates and similar such activities as they are causing spikes. Make of that what you will.

There is a large difference in risk between the managed and structured contact in school environments versus the unmanaged, unstructured contact where there are sleepovers, playdates etc.

History Queen

average_runner wrote: »

I answered that. I never said their was quality lacking, i said its not good to measure education in quantity.

That wasn't what was happening in that conversation. You inferred there was an issue with the quality. What about the other questions I asked of you?

wirelessdude01

blanch152 wrote: »

There is a large difference in risk between the managed and structured contact in school environments versus the unmanaged, unstructured contact where there are sleepovers, playdates etc.

Did anyone say there wasn't?

average_runner

History Queen wrote: »

That wasn't what was happening in that conversation. You inferred there was an issue with the quality. What about the other questions I asked of you?

Please show where I inferred that?



Another teacher posted the hours for primary school. What i would like to see:


45 mins a day of structure development on kids physical education side.
1 hour a day ideally on kids well being, especially one hour a day with the girls from 4th class up

Hurrache

Deeec wrote: »

They get to see their friends in school. In current circumstances there is no need for playdates.

You and all those thanking you are ignoring the point that it's no Maude Flaunders moment as they'll be sitting with each other for 5 or 6 hour 5 times a week anyway.

penny piper wrote: »

what about community transmission?

As above, they'll be sitting with each other all day anyway, so if one of them is carrying it, meeting in a classmates house is going to make no difference.

blanch152 wrote: »

There is a large difference in risk between the managed and structured contact in school environments versus the unmanaged, unstructured contact where there are sleepovers, playdates etc.

There isn't really.

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Did anyone say there wasn't?

Me.

We're not talking about teenagers out partying with each other with groups outside their immediate classmates. We're talking about primary school kids who at that age by and large tend to socialise with classmates. 1, 2 or 3 of them meeting outside of the school is no more a risk than them sitting in a classroom with 25 or so classmates.

I'm not here justifying as to why parents do these things, I'm just saying they bring little additional risk now that the schools are back.

wirelessdude01

average_runner wrote: »

Please show where I inferred that?



Another teacher posted the hours for primary school. What i would like to see:


45 mins a day of structure development on kids physical education side.
1 hour a day ideally on kids well being, especially one hour a day with the girls from 4th class up

So what do you cut out of the already overloaded primary curriculum to facilitate all of this?

A good day in the majority of primary classrooms is the three cores plus one other subject.

History Queen

average_runner wrote: »

Please show where I inferred that?



Another teacher posted the hours for primary school. What i would like to see:


45 mins a day of structure development on kids physical education side.
1 hour a day ideally on kids well being, especially one hour a day with the girls from 4th class up

What aspect of the curriculum should be sacrificed? Actually forget I asked.

average_runner

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

So what do you cut out of the already overloaded primary curriculum to facilitate all of this?

A good day in the majority of primary classrooms is the three cores plus one other subject.

I think you missed my point earlier, i said if they cut the holidays they could extend into this.

Teacher2020

average_runner wrote: »

Please show where I inferred that?



Another teacher posted the hours for primary school. What i would like to see:


45 mins a day of structure development on kids physical education side.
1 hour a day ideally on kids well being, especially one hour a day with the girls from 4th class up

Why can't parents look after the daily 45 mins of physical activity and hour of wellbeing? The school day has 5 hours of tuition time- how could we justify spending nearly 40% of the time on PE and wellbeing? I think a lot of people forget that parents are the primary educators of the child- not every part is the responsibility of the school.

wirelessdude01

average_runner wrote: »

I think you missed my point earlier, i said if they cut the holidays they could extend into this.

Let's pretend the holidays stay as is, what do you propose to cut/reduce allocated time for from the curriculum?

wirelessdude01

Teacher2020 wrote: »

Why can't parents look after the daily 45 mins of physical activity and hour of wellbeing? The school day has 5 hours of tuition time- how could we justify spending nearly 40% of the time on PE and wellbeing? I think a lot of people forget that parents are the primary educators of the child- not every part is the responsibility of the school.

Ahh sure all ills can be solved by primary schools.

Teacher2020

average_runner wrote: »

As i said above we could move to the european hours and spend more time on mental and physical education.

You actually said we should move to European hours - implying we would have less contact time than we do now. So something else would have to be sacrificed.

Str8outtaWuhan

Teacher2020 wrote: »

Why can't parents look after the daily 45 mins of physical activity and hour of wellbeing? The school day has 5 hours of tuition time- how could we justify spending nearly 40% of the time on PE and wellbeing? I think a lot of people forget that parents are the primary educators of the child- not every part is the responsibility of the school.

Social engineering. When the state starts teaching about their form of ethics, morality etc..

average_runner

Teacher2020 wrote: »

Why can't parents look after the daily 45 mins of physical activity and hour of wellbeing? The school day has 5 hours of tuition time- how could we justify spending nearly 40% of the time on PE and wellbeing? I think a lot of people forget that parents are the primary educators of the child- not every part is the responsibility of the school.

Because not all parents would do it. It also a very good team building tool with their class mates.

Physical exercise at a young age is about having fun with their friends but learning skills without knowing it